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  Tazmahn

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Joined: 2/25/14
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3/08/14 9:42:55 AM#41
I gotta say, between some of the things they addressed before, like collision detection and skipping starter areas... and now the Phasing thing.... They are really doing a fantastic job of listening to the players.  I've NEVER seen another MMO developer this responsive to beta complaints, especially this close to launch.

Frior FTW! 
  Wingeye

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3/08/14 9:52:34 AM#42

............. call me indifferent or dead fish but

i just dont get this fanboying and hyping...

if a game is good its good if its bad its bad if its meh its meh

why make such a huge deal out of everything

we are not hormone ridden teenage girls drooling at some pop singer for gods sake

or are you? if so then ignore my statement

  Lord.Bachus

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3/08/14 10:07:09 AM#43
Originally posted by Wingeye

............. call me indifferent or dead fish but

i just dont get this fanboying and hyping...

if a game is good its good if its bad its bad if its meh its meh

why make such a huge deal out of everything

we are not hormone ridden teenage girls drooling at some pop singer for gods sake

or are you? if so then ignore my statement

Actually we are boys wayting for their new toys....

Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations)
Currently playing : The Elder Scrolls Online and Wildstar

  FaustusIV

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3/08/14 10:33:12 AM#44

 

The reason they are pulling the stops out on things like broken phasing, terrible starter experience and basic collision detection is not because they are such responsive and amazing devs it's because launching without fixing them would have been suicidal.

 

How can we be calling them the best MMO devs ever? They have never launched an MMO before for goodness sake. They have no track record and have not even got this game out of the gate.

 

Once the three month churn has hit and people are bored or off playing the new shiny, plus the real quality or lack of is common knowledge...their response to those challenges will be when they earn any form of reputation.

 

Will fanboys be saying they are perfect when the game goes F2P, the cash shop opens and gouging begins?

  Wizardry

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Perhaps tomorrow will be better.

3/08/14 10:38:20 AM#45

So you are saying they deserve credit for releasing an unfinished game and full of mistakes?

I will say that they are putting in the effort AFTER getting your money,i think that is the problem with gaming,if they did not get the response they needed then they would have just left the game full of mistakes.I blieve that is what every developer is doing now,instead of spending that time and money to make sure a game is fit for consumers,they just release it on a whim and hope,then decide on expenditures after the fact.

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  blazzen67

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Joined: 4/16/13
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3/08/14 10:43:58 AM#46
Originally posted by Sk1ppeR
It's a bit early to go with those statements. Most games are awesome at launch since it has taken few years to complete. You should consider if the pace of which they bring new content is worth the sub :) Many many dev teams fail to deliver on this and go B2P because its less pressure :) 

i think they are off to a great start in that department. they have already finished with 4 or 5 content patches for after launch, and they continue to do so. So, they have the first 4 or 5 months of new content DLC for after launch. thats better than most new MMO's that have come out recently

  clumsytoes44

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3/08/14 10:48:36 AM#47

  I wouldn't even say Zenimax is the best until the game has been out for atleast 6 month's to a year.

1. Do they have a solid plan to deal with content locust's or are they gonna be like most dev's and try to keep them?

2. Are they gonna keep up with bug fixes that happen at launch, or let them stay in the game?

3. Do they have a solid plan for keeping crafting relevant after an update of content (with possible powercreep)?

4. With triple faction game, how are they gonna entice people to play a certain faction so it doesn't become a ghost faction (this happened in rf-online before it closed the american server's)?

Just because they are listening now does not mean they won't put on headphones later.

  blazzen67

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Joined: 4/16/13
Posts: 67

3/08/14 10:48:50 AM#48
Originally posted by Wingeye

............. call me indifferent or dead fish but

i just dont get this fanboying and hyping...

if a game is good its good if its bad its bad if its meh its meh

why make such a huge deal out of everything

we are not hormone ridden teenage girls drooling at some pop singer for gods sake

or are you? if so then ignore my statement

ok dead fish, so to you its not ok to be excited for a new game coming out at all? to be a robot without emotion at all? you must be a joy to be around

  saurus123

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Joined: 4/12/06
Posts: 505

3/08/14 10:49:46 AM#49
Originally posted by Tazmahn
They are really doing a fantastic job of listening to the players.  I've NEVER seen another MMO developer this responsive to beta complaints, especially this close to launch.

Frior FTW! 

ohh i saw it in WoW now the game is easy mode not like before

they did listen to all the complaints too :)

  Bad.dog

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Joined: 5/20/10
Posts: 907

3/08/14 10:56:12 AM#50
Originally posted by FaustusIV 

Will fanboys be saying they are perfect when the game goes F2P, the cash shop opens and gouging begins?

It's never the gouging in the F2P that's an issue , it's the cliental that flocks to a give me everything for nothing game

  Zeddakis

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3/08/14 11:01:38 AM#51

"Zenimax is the best mmo dev ever"

 

Shouldn't you at least wait for them to offically release/launch an MMO before making such a proclamation?

  Daxamar

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Joined: 10/13/05
Posts: 454

3/08/14 11:09:05 AM#52

I like ESO. I like it a lot. I like that there fixing things before launch. Still to say there the best MMO dev is a bit out there for me.

Like it has been metioned, they havent launched a MMO yet.

 

  Markusrind

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Joined: 7/22/13
Posts: 284

3/08/14 11:11:41 AM#53

They sure are fixing a lot of stuff...

 

But until they FIX stuff they just have a lot of things that need fixing.

  CazNeerg

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3/08/14 12:06:46 PM#54
Originally posted by Zeddakis

"Zenimax is the best mmo dev ever"

 Shouldn't you at least wait for them to offically release/launch an MMO before making such a proclamation?

"Best" could be premature, but most responsive to concerns this close to release may be fair.

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  superconducting

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3/08/14 1:18:11 PM#55

I am absolutely LOVING the improvements lately! I hope they keep it up. NOW is the time to put every last effort into it.

These guys have really got their eye on the ball, and It shows.

  GuyClinch

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Joined: 9/28/13
Posts: 475

3/08/14 2:13:11 PM#56
I don't know about best ever - since they have released it yet. But certainly zenimax because of Bethesda is considered one of the best developers in the world. I'd put Rockstar Games ahead of them - but that's about it. Blizzard used to be better as well but I personally don't think they are the same company anymore with so many recent failures.
  askdaboss

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3/08/14 3:00:50 PM#57

They are definitively a productive bunch. And that's a very reassuring thing.

  SEANMCAD

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3/08/14 3:07:19 PM#58

I havent played a class based system in about 6 years. I have no plans on starting.

Skill based only please

Does you MMO have rainbow sprinkles?

  Markusrind

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3/08/14 3:38:46 PM#59
Originally posted by SEANMCAD

I havent played a class based system in about 6 years. I have no plans on starting.

Skill based only please

Huh!

 

That is one subtle link. Try as I might I cannot see any connection between this thread and your reply.

  SEANMCAD

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3/08/14 4:05:17 PM#60
Originally posted by Markusrind
Originally posted by SEANMCAD

I havent played a class based system in about 6 years. I have no plans on starting.

Skill based only please

Huh!

 

That is one subtle link. Try as I might I cannot see any connection between this thread and your reply.

If I said 'Zenimax's development of ESO is an antiquated  approach to MMO design and I do not think they are very good'

would that have made more sense? One can extrapolate above from what I orginally said.

Does you MMO have rainbow sprinkles?

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