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  randprin

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Joined: 4/12/05
Posts: 59

2/26/14 5:40:18 PM#21
Originally posted by fivetigers

It seems like every game I try falls into 1 of 2 categories, it's either a WoW clone (which I'm not a fan of) with maybe 1 or 2 novel features, but inherently the same as WoW, or an Indie game with tons of promising features but god awful implementation and gameplay.

 

I've tried tons of games and nothing can keep my attention for more than a few days (if even that much).  Everything is the same, either a WoW clone or a disappointment.  Maybe I'm not giving games enough time and I've overlooked something.

 

Either way, I'm fairly certain that what I'm looking for does not exist (yet), but I'd be willing to try something that even has half to most of these features.  So if you're reading this and any particular game comes to mind (I'd even be interested in single player games or console games) feel free to mention it.

 

·         Classless skill-based or multi-classing (think The Elder Scrolls 1-5, or D&D type character creation/progression)

·         BIG open world (no invisible borders, minimal use of instances, and go anywhere I want as long as I can survive there)

·         Nonlinear gameplay (not just hub to hub to hub… travel/exploration is encouraged)

·         Action combat (no tab targeting, have to manually aim/dodge/block, etc.)

·         Gear can be acquired through questing, crafting and looting (not all from 1 source)

·         Non-combat gameplay options (Trade (think trade routes and goods, not just player to player item exchange), Exploration, Construction)

·         Fantasy setting

·         PvP isn’t forced on you

may i suggest you check out one of those two funcom titles:

- anarchy online, it answers points 2,3,5,6 and 8 (and to some extent point 1) of your list, but note that it is an old, old game with graphics and limits to match, also it is sci fi setting (at least as free to play) mixed in with wierd phantasy blend (story wise the lore is pretty original thu)

- the secret world, this one's a bit trickier, it does answer points 1, 4, 5 and 8, somewhat on 2  (you can do anything and everything and go anywhere (minus raids/hardmodes) from the start (you will die alot if you don't have the gear and skills up to spec thu)) and 3 (there's a main quest line you can choose to do at your leisure and that's about it for linear gameplay). it is sort of mixed fantasy/horror/sci-fi setting and i believe it is either free to play or buy to play.

 

MMORPG addict since 1995.

  Phaserlight

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2/27/14 8:13:46 AM#22
Give Vendetta Online a try. It is an indie game but it's decently well polished and it has every single one of the features you requested except for the Fantasy setting, but that doesn't appear to be a huge issue if you're considering Eve. You may be killed by another player anywhere, but there are always consequences (unless you are in completely lawless territory).

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Check it out on Steam

  mrrshann618

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Joined: 4/25/12
Posts: 202

2/27/14 8:37:55 AM#23

I venture into all these threads hoping that someone has offered a game that may peak my interest also.

 

Sadly, for all of it's faults Tabula Rasa was the "perfect" mix of things I was looking for in a game.

slightly more than tab target combat, it was a halfway mark between action and tab combat

Interesting story, enough to keep my occupied in the "why" at least

and lastly, most importantly, they had a way of masking grindfests that did not feel like grinding to level. Only 1 other game has come close and that was when Rift implemented those outpost fights in Ember Isle.

 

I do agree with the Fallen Earth recommendation, Crafting that means something, Combat that isn't just tab targeting, and a "great" faction system, you are not just "For the HORDE!!!" you can actually switch allegences.

 

Sadly with little time to play, I tend to play with my wife, who cannot stand the game.

 

OP I DO like your list, it is one of those lists that really reflect many of my own hopes. I've played several games that have gotten 1 or 2 of those points right, but not many more than 2 of your points.

  Phertias

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Joined: 2/26/14
Posts: 24

2/27/14 8:51:00 AM#24

That list would make a great MMORPG. Unfortunately, you describe old school MMORPG (Everquest, Vanguard etc.) of the total exploration and the nonlinearity with modern Asian MMORPGs of action combat and no classes.

To be fair, you cannot find that anywhere. You should priotize 3 of the attributes. If I were you, I would either pick:

The Secret World: No classes, yet still the most advanced character progression system yet to be found. Even though its not an open world, every zone is so detailed and brilliant made that it is a lot like old school exploration. 

Guild Wars 2: It is not completely linear and the combat is great. 

Wildstar: With the best combat system I have ever tried in an MMORPG aswell as a non-linear path (you decide which places you want to quest yourself) you are encouraged to explore the open world. You can even be an actual Explorer. People say it is a WoW clone, I have played WoW for 7 years and I have tried the beta of Wildstar. People who compare it are idiots that dont know what a WoW-clone means. 

If I were you, I would stick to Wildstar when it comes out. It is the best hybrid of the Asian market (Action combat) and the old-school MMORPG market (Exploration and non-linearity). 

  fivetigers

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Joined: 6/05/04
Posts: 181

 
OP  2/27/14 12:36:56 PM#25
Originally posted by mrrshann618

I venture into all these threads hoping that someone has offered a game that may peak my interest also.

Asheron's call has most of the features that I listed except for action combat and non-combat gameplay.  You might give it a try.

 

I'll have to look into Vendetta Online and The Secret World.

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  justinsalesart

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Posts: 60

2/27/14 12:48:22 PM#26
Originally posted by aesperus
Originally posted by fivetigers

It seems like every game I try falls into 1 of 2 categories, it's either a WoW clone (which I'm not a fan of) with maybe 1 or 2 novel features, but inherently the same as WoW, or an Indie game with tons of promising features but god awful implementation and gameplay.

I've tried tons of games and nothing can keep my attention for more than a few days (if even that much).  Everything is the same, either a WoW clone or a disappointment.  Maybe I'm not giving games enough time and I've overlooked something.

Either way, I'm fairly certain that what I'm looking for does not exist (yet), but I'd be willing to try something that even has half to most of these features.  So if you're reading this and any particular game comes to mind (I'd even be interested in single player games or console games) feel free to mention it.

·         Classless skill-based or multi-classing (think The Elder Scrolls 1-5, or D&D type character creation/progression)

·         BIG open world (no invisible borders, minimal use of instances, and go anywhere I want as long as I can survive there)

·         Nonlinear gameplay (not just hub to hub to hub… travel/exploration is encouraged)

·         Action combat (no tab targeting, have to manually aim/dodge/block, etc.)

·         Gear can be acquired through questing, crafting and looting (not all from 1 source)

·         Non-combat gameplay options (Trade (think trade routes and goods, not just player to player item exchange), Exploration, Construction)

·         Fantasy setting

·         PvP isn’t forced on you

You're not the only one.

However you guys all have the same problem. You're approaching games like a shopping list. Which is basically an indirect method of backseat designing a game. You're basically thinking of how you would make a game, without actually making one, and then looking for someone else to do that for you.

I'm not trying to imply that it's somehow practical for everyone w/ dreams of what would make the perfect MMO to go out, raise 10s / 100s of millions of dollars and create their own. However, it also illustrates just how unlikely it is for some other designer to do everything you'd like in a game, in a genre that is reliant on pleasing 100s of thousands, if not millions of players to survive.

You'd have much better luck, if you approached MMOs similar to how most people approach single-player / smaller-scale multiplayer games. Go with what looks interesting, and approach it like a new product. Don't approach each new MMO based on a pre-defined list of features you want to see. Doing so can ONLY lead to dissapointment. By comparing it to a shopping list of features you are setting the game up to fail (for you) before you even play it. Because instead of looking for features you like in the game, you're looking for features it does not have, and then judging it based on what you aren't finding. It's an inherently negative way to go into playing a new game.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you should be content w/ WoW clones. And I too have my own wishlist of features I would love to see in an MMO. Heck, if I had the time & resources I'd probably be making my own. But I don't, and I can't, so I'm not going to expect others to do it for me.

Instead I approach each new MMO for what they are. I accept certain tradeoffs that are inherent to the genre (if you want more freedom / sandbox design, you're going to have to accept fundamentally different gameplay from a theme park, for example. Instancing / zoning is also inevitable, etc. etc.) I weigh the things I like about the game, with the things I don't like about the game, and then I come to a conclusion.

Am I having fun? Do I support what the game's trying to do?

- If the answer is yes to both, then I play the game. It's that simple. Even if it has flaws, I take note of those flaws, remember them, and go back to enjoying the game.

 

This. So, so much this.

I'm a MUDder. I play MUDs.

Current: Dragonrealms (That's right, I pay 15 bucks a month for a text game.)

  Boneserino

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Joined: 12/08/07
Posts: 998

2/27/14 12:58:12 PM#27
Originally posted by aesperus
Originally posted by fivetigers

It seems like every game I try falls into 1 of 2 categories, it's either a WoW clone (which I'm not a fan of) with maybe 1 or 2 novel features, but inherently the same as WoW, or an Indie game with tons of promising features but god awful implementation and gameplay.

I've tried tons of games and nothing can keep my attention for more than a few days (if even that much).  Everything is the same, either a WoW clone or a disappointment.  Maybe I'm not giving games enough time and I've overlooked something.

Either way, I'm fairly certain that what I'm looking for does not exist (yet), but I'd be willing to try something that even has half to most of these features.  So if you're reading this and any particular game comes to mind (I'd even be interested in single player games or console games) feel free to mention it.

·         Classless skill-based or multi-classing (think The Elder Scrolls 1-5, or D&D type character creation/progression)

·         BIG open world (no invisible borders, minimal use of instances, and go anywhere I want as long as I can survive there)

·         Nonlinear gameplay (not just hub to hub to hub… travel/exploration is encouraged)

·         Action combat (no tab targeting, have to manually aim/dodge/block, etc.)

·         Gear can be acquired through questing, crafting and looting (not all from 1 source)

·         Non-combat gameplay options (Trade (think trade routes and goods, not just player to player item exchange), Exploration, Construction)

·         Fantasy setting

·         PvP isn’t forced on you

You're not the only one.

However you guys all have the same problem. You're approaching games like a shopping list. Which is basically an indirect method of backseat designing a game. You're basically thinking of how you would make a game, without actually making one, and then looking for someone else to do that for you.

I'm not trying to imply that it's somehow practical for everyone w/ dreams of what would make the perfect MMO to go out, raise 10s / 100s of millions of dollars and create their own. However, it also illustrates just how unlikely it is for some other designer to do everything you'd like in a game, in a genre that is reliant on pleasing 100s of thousands, if not millions of players to survive.

You'd have much better luck, if you approached MMOs similar to how most people approach single-player / smaller-scale multiplayer games. Go with what looks interesting, and approach it like a new product. Don't approach each new MMO based on a pre-defined list of features you want to see. Doing so can ONLY lead to dissapointment. By comparing it to a shopping list of features you are setting the game up to fail (for you) before you even play it. Because instead of looking for features you like in the game, you're looking for features it does not have, and then judging it based on what you aren't finding. It's an inherently negative way to go into playing a new game.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you should be content w/ WoW clones. And I too have my own wishlist of features I would love to see in an MMO. Heck, if I had the time & resources I'd probably be making my own. But I don't, and I can't, so I'm not going to expect others to do it for me.

Instead I approach each new MMO for what they are. I accept certain tradeoffs that are inherent to the genre (if you want more freedom / sandbox design, you're going to have to accept fundamentally different gameplay from a theme park, for example. Instancing / zoning is also inevitable, etc. etc.) I weigh the things I like about the game, with the things I don't like about the game, and then I come to a conclusion.

Am I having fun? Do I support what the game's trying to do?

- If the answer is yes to both, then I play the game. It's that simple. Even if it has flaws, I take note of those flaws, remember them, and go back to enjoying the game.

 

+1

Copy and paste this to every LFG thread.

 

I want a game that has Pandas, but is not like WoW!   Why can't I find this game ??

 

Good luck in your search OP.

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  rockin_ufo

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Joined: 6/10/06
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2/27/14 4:49:25 PM#28
Check out Eldevin. It seriously hits all your points, don't dismiss it because it's a browser game. It has more depth then 90% of the new MMOs released.

Whenever i step outside, somebody claims to see the light
It seems to me that all of us have lost our patience.
'cause everyone thinks they're right,
And nobody thinks that there just might
Be more than one road to our final destination--

  Kuuhn

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Joined: 10/24/10
Posts: 41

3/01/14 2:41:27 PM#29

Final Fantasy XI 10 years ago.

I'll help chip in for the time machine. I kick myself every day for how much I took that game for granted. At the time I played it and enjoyed it.. but not I look back at the generally true experience it provided and miss many of those features that just aren't available in a lot of current games.

  hallucigenocide

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Joined: 2/18/14
Posts: 331

3/02/14 8:45:25 AM#30

all i want is a damn sci-fi mmo that is'nt all about flying space ships and not half fantasy(looking at u swtor)

i wanna kill aliens and robots etc and not a bunch of humanoids and "space" versions of earth animals

kek

  fivetigers

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Joined: 6/05/04
Posts: 181

 
OP  3/03/14 12:21:14 PM#31
Originally posted by hallucigenocide

all i want is a damn sci-fi mmo that is'nt all about flying space ships and not half fantasy(looking at u swtor)

i wanna kill aliens and robots etc and not a bunch of humanoids and "space" versions of earth animals

Have you tried Firefall?  It's fun, but last time I played it (6 months ago), there wasn't a ton of content.  Maybe they've added more now. 

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  Mors.Magne

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3/03/14 12:24:48 PM#32
Originally posted by hallucigenocide

all i want is a damn sci-fi mmo that is'nt all about flying space ships and not half fantasy(looking at u swtor)

i wanna kill aliens and robots etc and not a bunch of humanoids and "space" versions of earth animals

Perpetuum fits your description roughly - it might be the game for you.

  MindTrigger

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3/03/14 12:27:02 PM#33

I'm just sitting here waiting to try The Repopulation.  It ticks off the checkboxes I'm looking for, and if the game fosters emergent gameplay as it seems to, the players will be most of the content, as it should be.

I was stoked about Star Citizen, and still kind of am, but it's not going to be deep enough to replace the MMORPG experience I want.  In fact, the game's designed seems to be very confused about what it is going to be.  All we can do is wait and see.

 

A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.

  Mors.Magne

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3/03/14 12:27:46 PM#34

Elite: Dangerous fit's the OP's description exactly if we substitute the word 'fantasy' for 'sci fi'.

 

It's coming out soon.

  saker

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Make a WORLD,
Not a Game.

3/03/14 12:31:17 PM#35


Originally posted by kinky10
The promised land of mmo's sadly bud I don't think it exists.... :( 

 


Yup we're all desperately waiting on the coming of the MMO messiah. And probably about as similar a real likelihood.

  hallucigenocide

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3/03/14 12:35:57 PM#36

Originally posted by fivetigers

Originally posted by hallucigenocide

all i want is a damn sci-fi mmo that is'nt all about flying space ships and not half fantasy(looking at u swtor)

i wanna kill aliens and robots etc and not a bunch of humanoids and "space" versions of earth animals

Have you tried Firefall?  It's fun, but last time I played it (6 months ago), there wasn't a ton of content.  Maybe they've added more now. 

checked a video of it and it looked like a shooter and i'm pretty horrible at those =/

Originally posted by Mors.Magne

Originally posted by hallucigenocide

all i want is a damn sci-fi mmo that is'nt all about flying space ships and not half fantasy(looking at u swtor)

i wanna kill aliens and robots etc and not a bunch of humanoids and "space" versions of earth animals

Perpetuum fits your description roughly - it might be the game for you.


it looked pretty cool but the controls was'nt to my liking

kek

  fivetigers

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OP  3/03/14 12:37:12 PM#37
Originally posted by Mors.Magne

Elite: Dangerous fit's the OP's description exactly if we substitute the word 'fantasy' for 'sci fi'.

 

It's coming out soon.

I can't get over the whole "I'm a spaceship" thing, which is why I've been avoiding Eve, even though it has lots of what I'm looking for.  Which kind of sucks for me, but maybe I'll cave in and try them sometime.

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  Asgrim

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3/04/14 8:55:01 AM#38

Istaria meets every one of your points except for action combat. It's also completely F2P if you are fine with playing one human character and not owning any land. It's a great way to get a taste of the game.

But Istaria isn't perfect. It's an old game. It used to run like shit when it came out (called Horizons back then), but now that computers are much more powerful and the team has been tweaking it for years, it runs pretty smooth. Consistent dev updates and a very friendly tightknit community. You can play as a dragon, but I honestly wish there were more bipeds in the game. Anyway, I'd recommend the Chaos shard.

The only other game that comes close to meeting your requirements was already mentioned -- Asheron's Call.

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  GrayImpact

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3/04/14 9:01:07 AM#39

I'd love to see a version of Darkfall or Mortal online that isn't crap and functions properly.

The idea is great, we just need an AAA company to execute it properly.

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