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  doodphace

Hard Core Member

Joined: 6/19/12
Posts: 1719

3/01/14 10:52:43 PM#41
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by Bluewhitehell
Originally posted by quixadhal...snip

Those statements would make sense only if there wern't MMOs out there with both those things, and I assure you...there are.........as well as the social and charecter progression points you listed.......I think the main quesitong is, why settle for less?

...snip

Read the post I quoted....does he mention any of that? Nope....and snipping the post i quoted doesn't hide it.....he said social interaction and charecter progression only....hence my reply...

I realise you are offended for some unknown reason, but if you are going to quote me to prove some point that I never disagreed with, at least reply with the correct context.

Well this is my package and I'm certain you don't have a game for me that matches this one. I'm with them, animations are low on the scale for me. If you don't consider all the gear, weapon, and skill choices progression what is progression to you?

 

Why do you feel the need to debate thing I never said or implied? Honestly....please..for the love of god, go read the exchange that you quoted.

He said he plays MMOs for social interaction and charecter progression, not for smooth combat, animations, and good UI. I then stated that there are MMOs out there with smooth combat, good animations, clean UI, as well as social interaction and charecter progression, so why settle for less?

At what point did I say ESO didnt have charecter progression, or care/debate what your total package is????? For all you know, I agree with you...i havent said anything implying otherwise....you need to relax a bit on forums bro lol.

I don't need to do anything but see you define character progression without using skills, gear, or weaponry. Then when we are done with that you can tell me how "ignore, guild functions, and being rewarded for healing" are not related to social interaction.

Why are you talking as if I said ESO didnt have charecter progression or social interaction??.....why are you ignoring every one of my replies?? You need to read...thats R-E-A-D. ESO has TONS of charecter progression and social interaction....why are you still talking as if I EVER implied otherwise????...LMAO This is honestly getting scary :/

I don't know what this reading thing is, can you tell me a game where it's animated well so that I can understand it.

And thus, you finally scrolled up and saw that I never said ESO didn't have charecter progression or social interaction, and rather than come clean about your incorrect argumentative assumptions, you respond like a 4 year old. I would expect no less here lol.

Au Contraire. I've been trying to explain to you that character progression and social interaction are different in different games. That constitutes what I labeled a package. Since someone cannot receive the same package for those two items from another source and have the things that you consider an upgrade, they cannot take your advice and just find another "on of these" with animation in a different way. If you can't see that then why keep trying to make you understand. You've insulted me twice and been sarcastic, why shouldn't I respond to you with a little fun. I'm not explaining it to you again.

I can't believe that you are still sticking with your false belief that I said ESO didnt have charecter progression or social interaction....this is getting ridiculous...I think I should stop getting baited into this exchange with you lol.

  Yodi2007

Novice Member

Joined: 6/30/12
Posts: 167

3/01/14 10:56:43 PM#42
Tried the game and like every other MMO since FFXI, EvE, and WoW are utter GARBAGE! The game is empty, bland and boring worst ES series I've ever played!

Below is where we can disscuss and come up with new ideas for Sandparks!

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5164689#5164689

  Tokken

Advanced Member

Joined: 3/06/04
Posts: 945

"I'm your Huckleberry!"

3/01/14 10:58:38 PM#43


Originally posted by SwashBuccaneer
Why does everyone say to give the game until level 10 before giving up on it?

Just curious.  Does the game open up much more or something at this magic level?

Don't care about spoilers so answer away. :P



Maybe you should read other threads on this subject first or play to lvl 10 to figure it out. Just saying.....

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  Amjoco

Elite Member

Joined: 9/15/10
Posts: 4155

3/01/14 11:00:03 PM#44
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by Bluewhitehell
Originally posted by quixadhal...snip

Those statements would make sense only if there wern't MMOs out there with both those things, and I assure you...there are.........as well as the social and charecter progression points you listed.......I think the main quesitong is, why settle for less?

...snip

Read the post I quoted....does he mention any of that? Nope....and snipping the post i quoted doesn't hide it.....he said social interaction and charecter progression only....hence my reply...

I realise you are offended for some unknown reason, but if you are going to quote me to prove some point that I never disagreed with, at least reply with the correct context.

Well this is my package and I'm certain you don't have a game for me that matches this one. I'm with them, animations are low on the scale for me. If you don't consider all the gear, weapon, and skill choices progression what is progression to you?

 

Why do you feel the need to debate thing I never said or implied? Honestly....please..for the love of god, go read the exchange that you quoted.

He said he plays MMOs for social interaction and charecter progression, not for smooth combat, animations, and good UI. I then stated that there are MMOs out there with smooth combat, good animations, clean UI, as well as social interaction and charecter progression, so why settle for less?

At what point did I say ESO didnt have charecter progression, or care/debate what your total package is????? For all you know, I agree with you...i havent said anything implying otherwise....you need to relax a bit on forums bro lol.

I don't need to do anything but see you define character progression without using skills, gear, or weaponry. Then when we are done with that you can tell me how "ignore, guild functions, and being rewarded for healing" are not related to social interaction.

Why are you talking as if I said ESO didnt have charecter progression or social interaction??.....why are you ignoring every one of my replies?? You need to read...thats R-E-A-D. ESO has TONS of charecter progression and social interaction....why are you still talking as if I EVER implied otherwise????...LMAO This is honestly getting scary :/

I don't know what this reading thing is, can you tell me a game where it's animated well so that I can understand it.

And thus, you finally scrolled up and saw that I never said ESO didn't have charecter progression or social interaction, and rather than come clean about your incorrect argumentative assumptions, you respond like a 4 year old. I would expect no less here lol.

Au Contraire. I've been trying to explain to you that character progression and social interaction are different in different games. That constitutes what I labeled a package. Since someone cannot receive the same package for those two items from another source and have the things that you consider an upgrade, they cannot take your advice and just find another "on of these" with animation in a different way. If you can't see that then why keep trying to make you understand. You've insulted me twice and been sarcastic, why shouldn't I respond to you with a little fun. I'm not explaining it to you again.

I can't believe that you are still sticking with your false belief that I said ESO didnt have charecter progression or social interaction....this is getting ridiculous...I think I should stop getting baited into this exchange with you lol.

I believe you lost no matter what the debate was. I didn't read the entire string of events, but read her last sentence. /shrug

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  bestever

Novice Member

Joined: 12/26/11
Posts: 613

3/01/14 11:00:34 PM#45

Don't wait till 10. I love the game and I've never seen 10 yet. This game is a true breath of fresh air for me(for me) I love it and the people I'm playing with love it. We ran a dungeon last night at level 7(it was for lvl 10 and up) and we got stomped by the first boss. I can't remember stepping into a dungeon below level, it was awesome. I really don't understand what all the QQ is about, I guess its about not getting what you want right now and hating on a game for it. I'm so glad its nothing like the wow crap we've played for the last 10+ years. 

So if you like it play it, if you don't then go play what you like. Its not for everyone and we all know this but for some reason people feel the need to complain just because THEY don't like it.

  Amjoco

Elite Member

Joined: 9/15/10
Posts: 4155

3/01/14 11:01:15 PM#46
Originally posted by Yodi2007
Tried the game and like every other MMO since FFXI, EvE, and WoW are utter GARBAGE! The game is empty, bland and boring worst ES series I've ever played!

What does this have to do with the OPs question?

Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.

  doodphace

Hard Core Member

Joined: 6/19/12
Posts: 1719

3/01/14 11:02:40 PM#47
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by Bluewhitehell
Originally posted by quixadhal...snip

Those statements would make sense only if there wern't MMOs out there with both those things, and I assure you...there are.........as well as the social and charecter progression points you listed.......I think the main quesitong is, why settle for less?

...snip

Read the post I quoted....does he mention any of that? Nope....and snipping the post i quoted doesn't hide it.....he said social interaction and charecter progression only....hence my reply...

I realise you are offended for some unknown reason, but if you are going to quote me to prove some point that I never disagreed with, at least reply with the correct context.

Well this is my package and I'm certain you don't have a game for me that matches this one. I'm with them, animations are low on the scale for me. If you don't consider all the gear, weapon, and skill choices progression what is progression to you?

 

Why do you feel the need to debate thing I never said or implied? Honestly....please..for the love of god, go read the exchange that you quoted.

He said he plays MMOs for social interaction and charecter progression, not for smooth combat, animations, and good UI. I then stated that there are MMOs out there with smooth combat, good animations, clean UI, as well as social interaction and charecter progression, so why settle for less?

At what point did I say ESO didnt have charecter progression, or care/debate what your total package is????? For all you know, I agree with you...i havent said anything implying otherwise....you need to relax a bit on forums bro lol.

I don't need to do anything but see you define character progression without using skills, gear, or weaponry. Then when we are done with that you can tell me how "ignore, guild functions, and being rewarded for healing" are not related to social interaction.

Why are you talking as if I said ESO didnt have charecter progression or social interaction??.....why are you ignoring every one of my replies?? You need to read...thats R-E-A-D. ESO has TONS of charecter progression and social interaction....why are you still talking as if I EVER implied otherwise????...LMAO This is honestly getting scary :/

I don't know what this reading thing is, can you tell me a game where it's animated well so that I can understand it.

And thus, you finally scrolled up and saw that I never said ESO didn't have charecter progression or social interaction, and rather than come clean about your incorrect argumentative assumptions, you respond like a 4 year old. I would expect no less here lol.

Au Contraire. I've been trying to explain to you that character progression and social interaction are different in different games. That constitutes what I labeled a package. Since someone cannot receive the same package for those two items from another source and have the things that you consider an upgrade, they cannot take your advice and just find another "on of these" with animation in a different way. If you can't see that then why keep trying to make you understand. You've insulted me twice and been sarcastic, why shouldn't I respond to you with a little fun. I'm not explaining it to you again.

I can't believe that you are still sticking with your false belief that I said ESO didnt have charecter progression or social interaction....this is getting ridiculous...I think I should stop getting baited into this exchange with you lol.

I believe you lost no matter what the debate was. I didn't read the entire string of events, but read her last sentence. /shrug

/shrug

  jircris

Elite Member

Joined: 2/03/07
Posts: 339

3/01/14 11:04:48 PM#48
Originally posted by Yodi2007
Tried the game and like every other MMO since FFXI, EvE, and WoW are utter GARBAGE! The game is empty, bland and boring worst ES series I've ever played!

And this is the problem. People join ESO thinking its going to be skyrim online. ITS NOT EVEN CLOSE! they had to change a lot of things to make it online friendly..imagen if you went to town only to find every npc dead. >> really this is kind of getting old.

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  RebelScum99

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Joined: 4/26/12
Posts: 1127

3/01/14 11:04:51 PM#49
Originally posted by Soki123
Originally posted by RebelScum99
Originally posted by Ender4

If you don't like a game in the first 10 levels it is extremely unlikely that you are going to like the game. You can go through the early stage and not be sure and discover you love it, but if you honestly dislike those early levels there is most likely something about the game that simply does not appeal to you.

Not true at all.  

Actually, true for a lot of people, most I know, that's for sure.

My guess is those people just quit the game if they don't like how the game feels at the beginning.  Not exactly what I was referencing.  

I've played plenty of games where the opening few levels were dull, and came to love them as the game progressed.  In fact, I'd say most themeparks work this way.  Maybe it's not an ideal model to follow, but that doesn't make it any less true.

  Amjoco

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Joined: 9/15/10
Posts: 4155

3/01/14 11:10:21 PM#50
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by Bluewhitehell
Originally posted by quixadhal...snip

Those statements would make sense only if there wern't MMOs out there with both those things, and I assure you...there are.........as well as the social and charecter progression points you listed.......I think the main quesitong is, why settle for less?

...snip

Read the post I quoted....does he mention any of that? Nope....and snipping the post i quoted doesn't hide it.....he said social interaction and charecter progression only....hence my reply...

I realise you are offended for some unknown reason, but if you are going to quote me to prove some point that I never disagreed with, at least reply with the correct context.

Well this is my package and I'm certain you don't have a game for me that matches this one. I'm with them, animations are low on the scale for me. If you don't consider all the gear, weapon, and skill choices progression what is progression to you?

 

Why do you feel the need to debate thing I never said or implied? Honestly....please..for the love of god, go read the exchange that you quoted.

He said he plays MMOs for social interaction and charecter progression, not for smooth combat, animations, and good UI. I then stated that there are MMOs out there with smooth combat, good animations, clean UI, as well as social interaction and charecter progression, so why settle for less?

At what point did I say ESO didnt have charecter progression, or care/debate what your total package is????? For all you know, I agree with you...i havent said anything implying otherwise....you need to relax a bit on forums bro lol.

I don't need to do anything but see you define character progression without using skills, gear, or weaponry. Then when we are done with that you can tell me how "ignore, guild functions, and being rewarded for healing" are not related to social interaction.

Why are you talking as if I said ESO didnt have charecter progression or social interaction??.....why are you ignoring every one of my replies?? You need to read...thats R-E-A-D. ESO has TONS of charecter progression and social interaction....why are you still talking as if I EVER implied otherwise????...LMAO This is honestly getting scary :/

I don't know what this reading thing is, can you tell me a game where it's animated well so that I can understand it.

And thus, you finally scrolled up and saw that I never said ESO didn't have charecter progression or social interaction, and rather than come clean about your incorrect argumentative assumptions, you respond like a 4 year old. I would expect no less here lol.

Au Contraire. I've been trying to explain to you that character progression and social interaction are different in different games. That constitutes what I labeled a package. Since someone cannot receive the same package for those two items from another source and have the things that you consider an upgrade, they cannot take your advice and just find another "on of these" with animation in a different way. If you can't see that then why keep trying to make you understand. You've insulted me twice and been sarcastic, why shouldn't I respond to you with a little fun. I'm not explaining it to you again.

I can't believe that you are still sticking with your false belief that I said ESO didnt have charecter progression or social interaction....this is getting ridiculous...I think I should stop getting baited into this exchange with you lol.

I believe you lost no matter what the debate was. I didn't read the entire string of events, but read her last sentence. /shrug

/shrug

I read it. You lose. /shrug

Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.

  User Deleted
3/01/14 11:11:37 PM#51
I pushed through past 10 and it got better, but still not good enough. Dungeons and PvP are a welcome change from the terrible dialogue, questing and courier quests, unfortunately the combat at its core is just boring. The combat animations and spell effects are also incredibly bad. So yeah, does it get better? Sure, if you just want to end the terrible quests, but if you don't like the combat it won't get better.
  doodphace

Hard Core Member

Joined: 6/19/12
Posts: 1719

3/01/14 11:12:37 PM#52
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by Bluewhitehell
Originally posted by quixadhal...snip

Those statements would make sense only if there wern't MMOs out there with both those things, and I assure you...there are.........as well as the social and charecter progression points you listed.......I think the main quesitong is, why settle for less?

...snip

Read the post I quoted....does he mention any of that? Nope....and snipping the post i quoted doesn't hide it.....he said social interaction and charecter progression only....hence my reply...

I realise you are offended for some unknown reason, but if you are going to quote me to prove some point that I never disagreed with, at least reply with the correct context.

Well this is my package and I'm certain you don't have a game for me that matches this one. I'm with them, animations are low on the scale for me. If you don't consider all the gear, weapon, and skill choices progression what is progression to you?

 

Why do you feel the need to debate thing I never said or implied? Honestly....please..for the love of god, go read the exchange that you quoted.

He said he plays MMOs for social interaction and charecter progression, not for smooth combat, animations, and good UI. I then stated that there are MMOs out there with smooth combat, good animations, clean UI, as well as social interaction and charecter progression, so why settle for less?

At what point did I say ESO didnt have charecter progression, or care/debate what your total package is????? For all you know, I agree with you...i havent said anything implying otherwise....you need to relax a bit on forums bro lol.

I don't need to do anything but see you define character progression without using skills, gear, or weaponry. Then when we are done with that you can tell me how "ignore, guild functions, and being rewarded for healing" are not related to social interaction.

Why are you talking as if I said ESO didnt have charecter progression or social interaction??.....why are you ignoring every one of my replies?? You need to read...thats R-E-A-D. ESO has TONS of charecter progression and social interaction....why are you still talking as if I EVER implied otherwise????...LMAO This is honestly getting scary :/

I don't know what this reading thing is, can you tell me a game where it's animated well so that I can understand it.

And thus, you finally scrolled up and saw that I never said ESO didn't have charecter progression or social interaction, and rather than come clean about your incorrect argumentative assumptions, you respond like a 4 year old. I would expect no less here lol.

Au Contraire. I've been trying to explain to you that character progression and social interaction are different in different games. That constitutes what I labeled a package. Since someone cannot receive the same package for those two items from another source and have the things that you consider an upgrade, they cannot take your advice and just find another "on of these" with animation in a different way. If you can't see that then why keep trying to make you understand. You've insulted me twice and been sarcastic, why shouldn't I respond to you with a little fun. I'm not explaining it to you again.

I can't believe that you are still sticking with your false belief that I said ESO didnt have charecter progression or social interaction....this is getting ridiculous...I think I should stop getting baited into this exchange with you lol.

I believe you lost no matter what the debate was. I didn't read the entire string of events, but read her last sentence. /shrug

/shrug

I read it. You lose. /shrug

Then please quote me where I said ESO didnt have charecter progression or social interaction...this is gonna be good lol

EDIT: Seeing as I know that you can't, i'm off to sleep. Toodles, and sweet dreams ;)

/shrug

  DrDwarf

Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/05/08
Posts: 502

3/01/14 11:13:31 PM#53
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by Bluewhitehell
Originally posted by quixadhal...snip

Those statements would make sense only if there wern't MMOs out there with both those things, and I assure you...there are.........as well as the social and charecter progression points you listed.......I think the main quesitong is, why settle for less?

...snip

Read the post I quoted....does he mention any of that? Nope....and snipping the post i quoted doesn't hide it.....he said social interaction and charecter progression only....hence my reply...

I realise you are offended for some unknown reason, but if you are going to quote me to prove some point that I never disagreed with, at least reply with the correct context.

Well this is my package and I'm certain you don't have a game for me that matches this one. I'm with them, animations are low on the scale for me. If you don't consider all the gear, weapon, and skill choices progression what is progression to you?

 

Why do you feel the need to debate thing I never said or implied? Honestly....please..for the love of god, go read the exchange that you quoted.

He said he plays MMOs for social interaction and charecter progression, not for smooth combat, animations, and good UI. I then stated that there are MMOs out there with smooth combat, good animations, clean UI, as well as social interaction and charecter progression, so why settle for less?

At what point did I say ESO didnt have charecter progression, or care/debate what your total package is????? For all you know, I agree with you...i havent said anything implying otherwise....you need to relax a bit on forums bro lol.

Why love god ?   He made all the disease and suffering in the world and does NOTHING to alleviate it.

 

  doodphace

Hard Core Member

Joined: 6/19/12
Posts: 1719

3/01/14 11:16:33 PM#54
Originally posted by DrDwarf
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by Bluewhitehell
Originally posted by quixadhal...snip

Those statements would make sense only if there wern't MMOs out there with both those things, and I assure you...there are.........as well as the social and charecter progression points you listed.......I think the main quesitong is, why settle for less?

...snip

Read the post I quoted....does he mention any of that? Nope....and snipping the post i quoted doesn't hide it.....he said social interaction and charecter progression only....hence my reply...

I realise you are offended for some unknown reason, but if you are going to quote me to prove some point that I never disagreed with, at least reply with the correct context.

Well this is my package and I'm certain you don't have a game for me that matches this one. I'm with them, animations are low on the scale for me. If you don't consider all the gear, weapon, and skill choices progression what is progression to you?

 

Why do you feel the need to debate thing I never said or implied? Honestly....please..for the love of god, go read the exchange that you quoted.

He said he plays MMOs for social interaction and charecter progression, not for smooth combat, animations, and good UI. I then stated that there are MMOs out there with smooth combat, good animations, clean UI, as well as social interaction and charecter progression, so why settle for less?

At what point did I say ESO didnt have charecter progression, or care/debate what your total package is????? For all you know, I agree with you...i havent said anything implying otherwise....you need to relax a bit on forums bro lol.

Why love god ?   He made all the disease and suffering in the world and does NOTHING to alleviate it.

 

Fair enough lol

  greenreen

Hard Core Member

Joined: 11/19/12
Posts: 1515

3/01/14 11:26:47 PM#55
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by doodphace
Origina...snip

Then please quote me where I said ESO didnt have charecter progression or social interaction...this is gonna be good lol


/shrug

Here's your logic.

Animation in games is different and I can prove where it's better than this game in another place.

(offers no proof yet)

Character progression and social interaction is the same in every game because I told you that you will get the same experience by changing to a game with better animation.

^ that's your leap and flaw in logic

 

Here's my logic.

Animation in games is different.

Character progression and social interaction in games is different.

Just because a game has better animation does not mean that it has satisfactory or superb character progression or social interaction tools in the package.

^ how logic works

 

You can read that when you wake up. I know what I typed and I know that you still don't get it. Once it clicks you can meet me back on the chessboard.

 

  Yodi2007

Novice Member

Joined: 6/30/12
Posts: 167

3/01/14 11:34:45 PM#56
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Yodi2007
Tried the game and like every other MMO since FFXI, EvE, and WoW are utter GARBAGE! The game is empty, bland and boring worst ES series I've ever played!

What does this have to do with the OPs question?

Cause he said "Wait till level 10"! wait for what? I have truly given up on all MMO's and moved back to single player games both PC and Consoles!

Below is where we can disscuss and come up with new ideas for Sandparks!

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5164689#5164689

  drivendawn

Advanced Member

Joined: 4/17/11
Posts: 1025

3/01/14 11:35:46 PM#57
Originally posted by DrDwarf
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by Bluewhitehell
Originally posted by quixadhal...snip

Those statements would make sense only if there wern't MMOs out there with both those things, and I assure you...there are.........as well as the social and charecter progression points you listed.......I think the main quesitong is, why settle for less?

...snip

Read the post I quoted....does he mention any of that? Nope....and snipping the post i quoted doesn't hide it.....he said social interaction and charecter progression only....hence my reply...

I realise you are offended for some unknown reason, but if you are going to quote me to prove some point that I never disagreed with, at least reply with the correct context.

Well this is my package and I'm certain you don't have a game for me that matches this one. I'm with them, animations are low on the scale for me. If you don't consider all the gear, weapon, and skill choices progression what is progression to you?

 

Why do you feel the need to debate thing I never said or implied? Honestly....please..for the love of god, go read the exchange that you quoted.

He said he plays MMOs for social interaction and charecter progression, not for smooth combat, animations, and good UI. I then stated that there are MMOs out there with smooth combat, good animations, clean UI, as well as social interaction and charecter progression, so why settle for less?

At what point did I say ESO didnt have charecter progression, or care/debate what your total package is????? For all you know, I agree with you...i havent said anything implying otherwise....you need to relax a bit on forums bro lol.

Why love god ?   He made all the disease and suffering in the world and does NOTHING to alleviate it.

 

Lol no I would say we humans made all that.

  nate1980

Spotlight Poster

Joined: 3/03/09
Posts: 1839

3/01/14 11:36:19 PM#58
Originally posted by DeserttFoxx

People who quit MMOs before level 20 probably shouldnt play MMOs.

 

Early levels arent a science yet, and ive not played any MMO that has done early game right, but if you play 5 levels and quit, then you shouldnt play at all, most of the time nothing happens before level 20, no dungeons no pvp no meaningful talents.

 

playing an mmo and quitting before level 10, is like putting in a single player game and quitting after the prologue.

That may be how modern MMORPG's are, but those of us who started with the likes of EQ, DAoC, and SWG beg to differ. Those games were hard and engaging from the get go. There were open world dungeons to explore before level 10. As for DAOC, there were open world battlegrounds with sieging starting at level 1. You basically had access to all parts of the game you'd ever experience from very early levels. Many old MMORPG's were like this. So those comments don't really hold any weight if a veteran MMORPG player is reading them. I guess it's all based on what you started with. If you started with the early MMORPG's, your expectations for future MMORPG's are formulated based off of those early experiences. If you started with WoW or in the post-WoW era, you probably don't expect a game to get engaging until later on into the game.

Just something to keep in mind.

  whisperwynd

Hard Core Member

Joined: 2/22/06
Posts: 1470

Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the priviledge to do so as well.

3/01/14 11:38:13 PM#59

 Having only played this weekend's beta, I don't think it's about the lvl. 

 It's really what you're anticipating to happen and whether or not you're likely to give it a fair shake. 

Different games do it differently and all it boils down to is how receptive we are to it, barring the obvious CTD's or annoying bugs. We all have baggage we bring to the table and it ultimately affects our perception of a new game.

We also like different things so, for some, getting to lvl 'X' to 'unlock the fun' can be a pain. While for others, just enjoying the game and accepting its flaws, it's tolerable..even enjoyable.

If you don't like the first hour of playing, don't force yourself. Maybe it just isn't for you. There's no need to endure something because of the like or dislike someone else.

  bestever

Novice Member

Joined: 12/26/11
Posts: 613

3/01/14 11:40:07 PM#60
Originally posted by evilastro
I pushed through past 10 and it got better, but still not good enough. Dungeons and PvP are a welcome change from the terrible dialogue, questing and courier quests, unfortunately the combat at its core is just boring. The combat animations and spell effects are also incredibly bad. So yeah, does it get better? Sure, if you just want to end the terrible quests, but if you don't like the combat it won't get better.

Coming form someone who thinks wowstar is a great game this just cracks me up. Have fun with the next wow. 

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