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  Tjed

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3/01/14 8:33:09 AM#21
Originally posted by lizardbones

Does everyone log into the same server?

 

If Yes, continue, otherwise, it's not an MMO anything.

 

Can everyone who logs into that same login server potentially interact with each other at some point while logged in?

 

If Yes, continue, otherwise, it's not an MMO anything.

 

When people interact with each other, are the online spaces/worlds/locations hosted by the developer, or by the players?

 

If Yes, continue, otherwise, it's not an MMO anything.

 

Is the place players are interacting a world, and is it persistent?

 

If Yes, then it's probably an MMORPG (World of Warcraft, Eve).

 

If No, then it's probably just an MMO (Diablo III, Call of Duty).

 

**

 

This only works if you don't rabidly hold on to the idea that MMO = MMORPG instead of MMO = Umbrella term to cover many different types of games.

 

I think this is the best explanation I've seen yet. 

  Phry

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3/01/14 8:39:59 AM#22
i think its pretty straight forward, if a game has only a hundred or so players, then its a MO, as in Multiplayer Online game, if it supports thousands of simultaneous players, then it becomes a Massively Multiplayer Online game, But they have to be playing in the same game world at the same time, be able to interract, either through pvp or cooperative gameplay.
  DMKano

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3/01/14 8:48:07 AM#23

I think OP is asking a question with an obvious answer.

 

  Blasphim

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3/01/14 9:28:08 AM#24


Originally posted by Adamai
If the game can be played predominantly solo.. Then its not an mmo. A brief list LotroWowWomSwtor

Glad you said brief, cause that list is a helluva lot longer than that.

  Ender4

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3/01/14 9:33:35 AM#25

To me the game has to potentially have 40+ players doing something constructive on screen at the same time (not just sitting in a town hub).

GW1 is not really a MMO. MOBA's are not MMOs. RTS are not MMOs. Battlefield is, Planetside is, etc.

Some people seem to call any multiplayer game with any online function an MMO though and I think that is just dumb. Path of Exile is not an MMO.

Edit: corrected very important typo. I said GW2 but meant GW1. GW1 was not an MMO, GW2 is.

  Drakynn

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3/01/14 9:42:53 AM#26
All I know is the way many people define the word massively here I would like to buy all there belongings and assets for "massive"amounts of cash.I'd be property, item and asset rich and still have enough change from a C more for a meal and drinks after.
  Bossalinie

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3/01/14 9:43:35 AM#27
Originally posted by Ender4

To me the game has to potentially have 40+ players doing something constructive on screen at the same time (not just sitting in a town hub).

GW2 is not really a MMO. MOBA's are not MMOs. RTS are not MMOs. Battlefield is, Planetside is, etc.

Some people seem to call any multiplayer game with any online function an MMO though and I think that is just dumb. Path of Exile is not an MMO.

Because massive is purely subjective and not clearly defined by a specific number, no one will ever be right or wrong on what an MMO is.

Case in point...you picking 40. Was WoW not an MMO when it ditched 40 for 25 or 10 man raids?

  MMOExposed

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OP  3/01/14 12:14:38 PM#28

Nobody is going to agree on what a MMO is. So thats why I ask what isn't a MMO. 

A single player game isnt a MMO right? Or is it?,,,

  nariusseldon

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3/01/14 12:32:06 PM#29

wow .. we are at this again?

How about this ... if it is listed here, it is a MMO.

Definitions are arbitrary anyway .. just go with the common usage. Games won't care what you call them, they still play the same.

 

  madazz

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3/01/14 12:36:33 PM#30
Originally posted by laserit
  1. A massively multiplayer online game. A computer game in which a large number of players can simultaneously interact in a persistent world or can potentially play against a large number of players in matchmaking; A massively multiplayer online role-playing game.

 

 

That's the definition I'm going with.

 

I would recommend taking some english courses over again to understand how the word "massively" interacts with the word "multiplayer". Further more, wtf does a persistent world have to do with an MMO? And even further more, you are basically stating that ANY multiplayer game with matchmaking is an MMO (so basically Quake is an MMO, as is DOOM and Duke Nukem 3D).

 

So here is a question for you, why did you come to this site? A site clearly labeled MMORPG. It seems you consider any game an MMO.... why not just go to a site like IGN or Gamespot that covers even more games? What makes THIS site special to you? I'd like to know what drew you here as you clearly dont know what an MMO is.

  Ryoshi1

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3/01/14 12:38:54 PM#31

o boy.. any game with less than 100 players at one given time is not a mmo :D

 

/thisthread

  madazz

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3/01/14 12:39:29 PM#32

I simply don't understand why people with a poor grasp of english think they should be the deciding factor in destroying a descriptor for a genre of games. The words are very clear and are not up for debate. 

 

Next these very plebs will be arguing that ALL descriptors stand for EVERYTHING. These people are going to start calling a Toyota Tercel a sports car because it too has wheels!!! GENIUS!!!!

  Loktofeit

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3/01/14 12:40:10 PM#33
Originally posted by MMOExposed

so what kind of Video Game is NOT considered MMO games?

Since the MMO community , as well as sites like this and massively, along with the industry have decided it was a good reason to change the requirements for a video game to be considered a MMO video game.

The staff here and on other sites have answered this question several times. The inclusion of other games is because they are of interest to their current audience. 

The requirements for consideration for their sites have nothing to do with anyone's requirements, perception, or definition of what constitutes an MMO. 

  • create a false fact
  • base the conclusion on it
  • ask others to discuss the conclusion

It fascinates me how well that works on this crowd. 

 

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  PAL-18

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3/01/14 12:43:27 PM#34

Its pretty simple

if 1+1=2 then 2+2=4

if Sim City is MMO then every game = MMO

ask EA for details.

 

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  Loktofeit

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3/01/14 12:44:44 PM#35
Originally posted by PAL-18

Its pretty simple

if 1+1=2 then 2+2=4

if Sim City is MMO then every game = MMO

ask EA for details.

 

You're evil. 

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  Kuuhn

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3/01/14 1:16:47 PM#36

MMO =/= MMORPG

 

Too many people cannot swallow this pill these days. 

Far too many people who I know through real life and game life alike automatically assume "They must mean MMORPG when they said MMO" and this is simply not the case anymore. There are so many options of online games to play these days with thousands of other people that it doesn't make sense to have only one definition. And also don't forget that they tacked on the "RPG" at the end for a reason. To fit the correct sub-genre.

  Ender4

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3/01/14 1:21:11 PM#37


Originally posted by Bossalinie

Originally posted by Ender4 To me the game has to potentially have 40+ players doing something constructive on screen at the same time (not just sitting in a town hub). GW2 is not really a MMO. MOBA's are not MMOs. RTS are not MMOs. Battlefield is, Planetside is, etc. Some people seem to call any multiplayer game with any online function an MMO though and I think that is just dumb. Path of Exile is not an MMO.
Because massive is purely subjective and not clearly defined by a specific number, no one will ever be right or wrong on what an MMO is.

Case in point...you picking 40. Was WoW not an MMO when it ditched 40 for 25 or 10 man raids?



40 players can do something constructive in WoW right now so yes it is an MMO. LoL is not an MMO. Diablo 3 is not an MMO. Battlefield is though, you can have a 20 on 20 battle and to me that is close enough to the definition.

  eyelolled

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3/01/14 1:26:05 PM#38
I do believe they've modified the term massively to refer to the "beltline" of the average player of said game, making Pac-Man  a Massively Single Player Game. 

All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.

  MMOExposed

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OP  3/01/14 2:44:43 PM#39
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by MMOExposed

so what kind of Video Game is NOT considered MMO games?

Since the MMO community , as well as sites like this and massively, along with the industry have decided it was a good reason to change the requirements for a video game to be considered a MMO video game.

The staff here and on other sites have answered this question several times. The inclusion of other games is because they are of interest to their current audience. 

The requirements for consideration for their sites have nothing to do with anyone's requirements, perception, or definition of what constitutes an MMO. 

  • create a false fact
  • base the conclusion on it
  • ask others to discuss the conclusion

It fascinates me how well that works on this crowd. 

 

So when is it decided which non MMO appeal to MMO consumer? 

Otherwise why isnt BF3 on this site as well as MAG, and Call of Duty? Those are also massively multiplayer in terms of the number of people that play on the server at any give time, like the new definition of MMO suggest. 

  Wizardry

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3/01/14 3:01:43 PM#40

A game that does NOT play as a MMO.It is one thing to just add the internet but if the entire game is structure to play solo,it is not a MMO.

We don't call Habbo hotel a MMO,or any other app /game  just because it allows everyone to login to the same server.Gaming goes well beyond the server and world,if  all just soloing then i call that co-op and VERY little of it.

Also the term RP...role playing means you are role playing an adventurer of some sort of class.Unless you are roleplaying a Hermit,that game had better have the proper mechanics to bring players together,after all what is the purpose of giving your game the title of MMORPG if it does not live up to it with it's elements?Sadly the answer is MOST think just because they added the internet their game functions as a MMO and most do NOT until that so called "End game" nonsense.

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