Trending Games | The Crew | Neverwinter | Elder Scrolls Online | Lichdom: Battlemage

  Network:  FPSguru RTSguru
Login:  Password:   Remember?  
Show Quick Gamelist Jump to Random Game
Members:2,842,891 Users Online:0
Games:732  Posts:6,221,401
Recent forum postsRSS
Active threads
Cloud view
List all forums
General Forums
Developers Corner General Discussion
Popular Game Forums
Click a status to find game forum
Game Forums
Click a letter to find game forum
A-C
2029 Online 2112: Revolution 2Moons 4Story 8BitMMO 9 Dragons A Mystical Land A Tale in the Desert III A3 ACE Online ARGO Online Aberoth Absolute Force Online Absolute Terror Achaea Adellion Aerrevan Aetolia, the Midnight Age Age of Armor Age of Conan Age of Empires Online Age of Mourning Age of Wulin Age of Wushu Aida Arenas Aika Aion Albion Online Alganon All Points Bulletin (APB) Allods Online Altis Gates Amazing World Anarchy Online Ancients of Fasaria Andromeda 5 Angels Online Anime Trumps Anmynor Anno Online Applo Arcane Hearts Arcane Legends ArchLord ArcheAge Archeblade Archlord X Asda 2 Asda Story Ashen Empires Asheron's Call Asheron's Call 2 Astera Online Astonia III Astro Empires Astro Lords: Oort CLoud Asura Force Atlantica Online Atriarch Aura Kingdom Aurora Blade Auto Assault Avatar Star Battle Dawn Battle Dawn Galaxies Battle for Graxia Battle of 3 Kingdoms Battle of the Immortals Battlecruiser Online Battlestar Galactica Online Battlestar Reloaded Beyond Protocol Black Aftermath Black Desert Black Gold Black Prophecy Black Prophecy Tactics: Nexus Conflict Blacklight Retribution Blade & Soul Blade Hunter Blade Wars Blazing Throne Bless Blitz 1941 Blood and Jade Bloodlines Champions Bounty Bay Online Brain Storm Brawl Busters. Brick-Force Bright Shadow Bullet Run Business Tycoon Online CTRacer Cabal Online Caesary Call of Camelot Call of Gods Call of Thrones Camelot Unchained Canaan Online Cardmon Hero Cartoon Universe CasinoRPG Castle Empire Castlot Celtic Heroes Champions Online Champions of Regnum Chaos Online Chrono Tales Citadel of Sorcery CitiesXL Citizen Zero City of Decay City of Heroes City of Steam City of Transformers City of Villains Civilization Online Clan Lord Clash of Clans Cloud Nine Club Penguin Colony of War Command & Conquer: Tiberium Alliances Company of Heroes Online Conquer Online Conquer Online 3 Continent of the Ninth (C9) Core Blaze Core Exiles Corum Online Craft of Gods Crimecraft Crimelife 2 Cronous Crota II Crusaders of Solaris Cultures Online Cyber Monster 2 Céiron Wars
D-F
D&D Online DC Universe DK Online DOTA DOTA 2 DUST 514 DV8: Exile Dalethaan Dance Groove Online Dark Age of Camelot Dark Ages Dark Legends Dark Orbit Dark Relic: Prelude Dark Solstice Dark and Light DarkEden Online DarkSpace Darkblood Online Darkest Dungeon Darkfall Darkfall: Unholy Wars Darkwind: War on Wheels Das Tal Dawn of Fantasy Dawntide DayZ Dead Earth Dead Frontier Deco Online Deepworld Defiance Deicide Online Dekaron Demons at the Horizon Desert Operations Destiny Diablo 3 Diamonin Digimon Battle Dino Storm Disciple Divergence Divina Divine Souls Dofus Dominus Online Dragon Ball Online Dragon Born Online Dragon Crusade Dragon Empires Dragon Eternity Dragon Nest Dragon Oath Dragon Pals Dragon Raja Dragon's Call Dragon's Call II Dragon's Prophet DragonSky DragonSoul Dragona Dragonica Dragons and Titans Dream of Mirror Online Dreamland Online Dreamlords: The Reawakening Drift City Duels Dungeon Blitz Dungeon Fighter Online Dungeon Overlord Dungeon Party Dungeon Rampage Dungeon Runners Dynastica Dynasty Warriors Online Dynasty of the Magi EIN (Epicus Incognitus) EVE Online Earth Eternal Earth and Beyond Earthrise Eclipse War Ecol Tactics Online Eden Eternal Edge of Space Einherjar - The Viking's Blood Elder Scrolls Online Eldevin Elf Online Elite: Dangerous Embers of Caerus Emil Chronicle Online Empire Empire & State Empire Craft Empire Universe 3 EmpireQuest Empires of Galldon End of Nations Endless Ages Endless Blue Moon Online Endless Online Entropia Universe EpicDuel Erebus: Travia Reborn Eredan Eternal Blade Eternal Lands Eternal Saga Ether Fields Ether Saga Online Eudemons Online EuroGangster EverEmber Online EverQuest Next EverQuest Online Adventures Evernight Everquest Everquest II Evony Exarch Exorace F.E.A.R. Online Face of Mankind Fairyland Online Fall of Rome Fallen Earth Fallen Sword Fallout Online Family Guy Online Fantage Fantasy Earth Zero Fantasy Realm Online Fantasy Tales Online Fantasy Worlds: Rhynn Faunasphere Faxion Online Ferentus Ferion Fiesta Online Final Fantasy XI Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn Firefall Fists of Fu Florensia Flyff Football Manager Live Football Superstars Force of Arms Forge Forsaken World Fortnite Fortuna Forum for Discussion of Everlight Freaky Creatures Free Realms Freesky Online Freeworld Fung Wan Online Furcadia Fury Fusion Fall
G-L
GalaXseeds Galactic Command Online Game of Thrones: Seven Kingdoms Gameglobe Gate To Heavens Gates of Andaron Gatheryn Gauntlet Gekkeiju Online Ghost Online Ghost Recon Online Gladiatus Glitch Global Agenda Global Soccer Gloria Victis Glory of Gods GoGoRacer Goal Line Blitz Gods and Heroes GodsWar Online Golemizer Golf Star GoonZu Online Graal Kingdoms Granado Espada Online Grand Chase Grand Fantasia Grepolis Grimlands Guild Wars Guild Wars 2 Guild Wars Factions Guild Wars Nightfall H1Z1 Habbo Hotel Hailan Rising HaloSphere2 Haven & Hearth Hawken Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft Helbreath Hellgate Hellgate: London Hello Kitty Online Hero Online Hero Zero Hero's Journey Hero: 108 Online HeroSmash Heroes & Generals Heroes in the Sky Heroes of Bestia Heroes of Gaia Heroes of Might and Magic Online Heroes of Thessalonica Heroes of Three Kingdoms Heroes of the Storm Hex Holic Online Hostile Space Hunter Blade Huxley Illutia Illyriad Immortals USA Imperator Imperian Inferno Legend Infestation: Survivor Stories Infinite Crisis Infinity Infinity Iris Online Iron Grip: Marauders Irth Worlds Island Forge Islands of War Istaria: Chronicles of the Gifted Jade Dynasty Jagged Alliance Online Juggernaut Jumpgate Jumpgate Evolution KAL Online Kakele Online Kaos War Karos Online Kartuga Kicks Online King of Kings 3 Kingdom Heroes Kingdom Under Fire II Kingdom of Drakkar Kingory Kings and Legends Kings of the Realm KingsRoad Kitsu Saga Kiwarriors Knight Age Knight Online Knights of Dream City Kothuria Kung Foo! Kunlun Online L.A.W. LEGO Universe La Tale Land of Chaos Online Landmark Lands of Hope: Phoenix Edition LastChaos League of Angels League of Legends - Clash of Fates Legend of Edda: Vengeance Legend of Golden Plume Legend of Katha Legend of Mir 2 Legend of Mir 3 Legendary Champions Lego Minifigures Online Life is Feudal Light of Nova Lime Odyssey Line of Defense Lineage Lineage Eternal: Twilight Resistance Lineage II Linkrealms Loong Online Lord of the Rings Online Lords Online Lost Saga Lucent Heart Lunia Lusternia: Age of Ascension Luvinia World
M-Q
MU Online Mabinogi Maestia: Rise of Keledus MagiKnights Magic Barrage Magic World Online Manga Fighter MapleStory Martial Heroes Marvel Heroes Marvel Super Hero Squad Online Marvel: Avengers Alliance MechWarrior Online Megaten Meridian 59 : Evolution Merlin MetalMercs Metaplace Metin 2 MicroVolts Midkemia Online Might & Magic Heroes: Kingdoms MilMo Minecraft Mini Fighter Minions of Mirth Ministry of War Monato Esprit Monkey King Online Monkey Quest Monster & Me Monster Madness Online MonsterMMORPG Moonlight Online: Tales of Eternal Blood Mordavia Mortal Online Mourning My Lands Myst Online: URU Live Myth Angels Online Myth War Myth War 2 Mytheon Mythic Saga Mythos N.E.O Online NIDA Online Nadirim Naviage: The Power of Capital Navy Field Need for Speed World Nemexia Neo's Land NeoSteam Neocron Nether Neverwinter Nexus: The Kingdom Of The Winds NinjaTrick NosTale Novus Aeterno Oberin Odin Quest Odyssey RPG Ogre Island Omerta 3 Online Boxing Manager Onverse Order & Chaos Online Order of Magic Original Blood Origins Return Origins of Malu Orion's Belt Otherland Forums OverSoul Overkings Oz Online Oz World Pandora Saga Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen Panzar Parabellum Parallel Kingdom Parfait Station Path of Exile Pathfinder Online Perfect World Perpetuum Online Phantasy Star Online 2 Phantasy Star Universe Phoenix Dynasty Online Phylon Pi Story Picaroon Pirate Galaxy Pirate Storm Pirate101 PirateKing Online Pirates of the Burning Sea Pirates of the Caribbean Online Pixie Hollow Planeshift Planet Arkadia Planet Calypso PlanetSide 2 Planetside Planets³ Playboy Manager Pocket Legends Pockie Ninja Pockie Pirates Pockie Saints PoxNora Prime World Prime: Battle for Dominus Priston Tale Priston Tale II Prius Online Project Blackout Project Powder Project Titan Forums Project Wiki Puzzle Pirates Quickhit Football
R-S
R2 Online RAN Online RF Online ROSE Online Rage of 3 Kingdoms Ragnarok Online Ragnarok Online II RaiderZ Rakion Rappelz RappelzSEA Ravenmarch Realm Fighter Realm of the Mad God Realm of the Titans Realms Online Reclamation Red Stone Red War: Edem's Curse Regnum Online Remnant Knights Renaissance Repulse Requiem: Memento Mori Rift RiotZone Rise Rise of Dragonian Era Rise of Empire Rise of the Tycoon Rising of King Risk Your Life Rivality Rockfree Rohan: Blood Feud Role Play Worlds Roll n Rock Roma Victor Romadoria Rosh Online Roto X Rubies of Eventide Ruin Online Rumble Fighter Runes of Magic Runescape Rust Rusty Hearts Ryzom S4 League SAGA SD Gundam Capsule Fighter Online SMITE SUN Sagramore Salem SaySayGirls Scarlet Blade Scions of Fate Seal Online: Evolution Second Life Secret of the Solstice Seed Serenia Fantasy Seven Seas Saga Seven Souls Online Sevencore Shadow of Legend Shadowbane Shadowrun Online Shaiya Shards Online Shattered Galaxy Sho Online Shot Online Shroud of the Avatar SideQuest Siege on Stars Sigonyth: Desert Eternity Silkroad Online Skyblade Skyforge SmashMuck Champions Smoo Online Soldier Front Soul Master Soul Order Online Soul of Guardian Space Heroes Universe Sparta: War of Empires Spellcasters Sphere Spiral Knights Spirit Tales Splash Fighters Squad Wars Star Citizen Star Sonata 2 Star Stable Star Supremacy Star Trek Online Star Trek: Infinite Space Star Wars Galaxies Star Wars: Clone Wars Adventures Star Wars: The Old Republic StarQuest Online Stargate Worlds Starlight Story Starpires State of Decay SteelWar Online Stone Age 2 Stormfall: Age of War Storybricks Stronghold Kingdoms Sudden Attack Supremacy 1914 Supreme Destiny Sword Girls Sword of Destiny: Rise of Aions SwordX Swords of Heavens Swordsman
T-Z
TERA TS Online Tabula Rasa Tactica Online Tales Runner Tales of Fantasy Tales of Pirates Tales of Pirates II Tales of Solaris Talisman Online Tamer Saga Tank Ace Tantra Online Tatsumaki: Land at War Terra Militaris TerraWorld Online Thang Online The 4th Coming The Agency The Aurora World The Black Watchmen The Chronicle The Chronicles of Spellborn The Crew The Division The Hammers End The Legend of Ares The Lost Titans The Matrix Online The Mighty Quest for Epic Loot The Missing Ink The Mummy Online The Myth of Soma The Pride of Taern The Realm Online The Repopulation The Secret World The Sims Online The Strategems The West Theralon There Therian Saga Thrones of Chaos Tibia Tibia Micro Edition Tiger Knight Titan Siege Titans of Time Toontown Online Top Speed Topia Online Torchlight Total Domination Transformers Universe Traveller AR Travia Online Travian Trials of Ascension Tribal Hero Tribal Wars Tribes Universe Trickster Online Trove Troy Online True Fantasy Live Online Turf Battles Twelve Sky Twelve Sky 2 Twilight War Tynon U.B. Funkeys UFO Online URDEAD Online Ultima Forever: Quest for the Avatar Ultima Online Ultima X: Odyssey Ultimate Naruto Ultimate Soccer Boss Uncharted Waters Online Undercover 2: Merc Wars Underlight Unification Wars Universe Online Utopia Valkyrie Sky Vampire Lord Online Vanguard: Saga of Heroes Vanquish Space Vector City Racers Vendetta Online Victory - Age of Racing Vindictus Virtonomics Vis Gladius Visions of Zosimos VoidExpanse Voyage Century Online W.E.L.L. Online WAR (Warhammer Online) WAR2 Glory WYD Global Wakfu War Thunder War of 2012 War of Angels War of Legends War of Mercenaries War of Thrones War of the Immortals WarFlow Waren Story Wargame1942 Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade Warhammer 40K: Dark Millennium Online Warhammer Online: Wrath of Heroes Warkeepers Warrior Epic Wartune WebLords Wild West Online WildStar Wind of Luck WindSlayer 2 Wings of Destiny Wish Wizard101 Wizardry Online Wizards and Champions Wonder King Wonderland Online World Golf Tour World of Battles World of Darkness World of Heroes World of Kung Fu World of Pirates World of Speed World of Tanks World of Tanks Generals World of Warcraft World of Warplanes World of Warships World of the Living Dead WorldAlpha Wurm Online Xenocell Xiah Xsyon Xulu YS Online Yitien ZU Online Zentia Zero Online Zero Online: The Andromeda Crisis Zodiac Online Zombies Ate My Pizza eRepublik

MMORPG.com Discussion Forums

General Discussion

General Discussion 

News & Features Discussion  » [General Article] Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen: Did Pantheon Suffer Kickstarter Burnout?

4 Pages « 1 2 3 4 » Search
61 posts found
  Erinak1

Novice Member

Joined: 2/02/08
Posts: 20

2/28/14 9:53:00 AM#21
Originally posted by logicbomb82
I looked at this game and was considering backing it, the reason I did not pull the trigger was the huge timeline. It was an honest timeline which I appreciated seeing, its just MMO's take time and a lot can happen. Hell I could stop gaming all together or maybe I lose my job and not be able to afford a good PC and internet to play it at release.  I think to get good results from Kickstarter you need to have a product that is ready to ship in 12-24 months max. 

 

That was my biggest issue as well overall. Plus the fact that after previous stigma, whether ill or well deserved, it would have been nice for the pitch to have more substance. With the amount of MMOs that have disappointed recently, I think I'm past the point of absolute blind faith.

  yllis

Advanced Member

Joined: 3/04/04
Posts: 70

2/28/14 9:54:22 AM#22

I really felt this whole thing was like trying to sell someone a cheese sandwich to people who already have lunch plans.

None of the ideas were new or exciting.

" This is something you eat for lunch and is made of bread and cheese.... aren't you excited?! "

" Inside the sandwich is... you better be sitting down... cheese!! Aren't you excited ?! "

" We know you want it, so here you go.... It will have bread included!!! Aren't you excited ?! "

 

I would like to encourage Brad to drop this idea and make something people actually really want, this is something people only want in theory. Eq1 was fun like the 80's was fun, nice to look back at and laugh about, but I don't want to do it again.

  Tibernicuspa

Apprentice Member

Joined: 11/03/13
Posts: 986

2/28/14 9:58:56 AM#23
And the irrational overblown McQuaid hate train keeps on rolling.
  rwyan

Advanced Member

Joined: 7/24/03
Posts: 429

2/28/14 10:00:35 AM#24

I just don't think Pantheon had that imaginative spark that the likes of other successful kickstarted projects had.

 

 

Comparably, if we look at the Macquaid factor, Camelot Unchained shouldn't have funded either. But it did, because CSG not only dwelled on oldschool nostalgia but also mixed in some interesting creative nuances.

 

 

Pantheon just came off as simply another attempt at EQ and Vanguard. Camelot Unchained felt like CSG wanted to not only deliver another DAOC but also wanted to throw in some interesting new layers into the mix.

  Kuinn

Advanced Member

Joined: 1/10/11
Posts: 1989

2/28/14 10:07:10 AM#25

There's so many kickstarters going on already that people who are willing to put some money in them propably has already met their quota. We need games out of kickstarter now, I doubt the people who use kickstarter are willing to put money on multiple products when nothing is released yet.

 

Is there even a single mmorpg out of kickstarter yet? I havent heard of any at least. Also I agree with too little info on Pantheon, I visited their kickstarter page just out of curiosity and it's very hard to tell what kind of game precisely they are going to create. StarCitizen for example was a lot more easy to figure out right from the start.

  Razeekster

Spotlight Poster

Joined: 7/09/11
Posts: 1912

May the game be ever in your favor.

2/28/14 10:08:12 AM#26
Originally posted by Tibernicuspa
And the irrational overblown McQuaid hate train keeps on rolling.
 

You apparently didn't read the article as the article is actually pretty much blaming Pantheon'failure on "Kickstarter-burnout." Although games that have well run Kickstarters and actual ideas and concepts that haven't been done before or are shown in videos, don't seem to have this new and terrible affliction known as "Kickstarter-burnout."

 

Games like  Kingdom Come: Deliverance and Star Citizen seemed to have done pretty okay and they both had great Kickstarterwith plenty of information and alpha footage, and they seemed to do well... Huh, I wonder if there is a connection...

Smile

  User Deleted
2/28/14 10:13:47 AM#27
Originally posted by DMKano

It showed that masses have no interest in playing EQ1 classic based game.

3000 people however are crazy about the idea.

This is incorrect, the "masses" didn't know about it because it wasn't managed or marketed very well, that was a mistake that Brad and the team admitted, they had never done a KS campaign before and tried to model it off of Star Citizen and they got it wrong, they admitted it, they took on board critism and advice and they are now trying to make up for that on their website, which is going ahead nicely.

 

But to say that only 3000 were crazy about it is just wrong, not enough people knew about it to even try to put a fair estimate on those numbers, and of those 3000, they were able to raise $460k, which is an average of $153.33 pledge each, that is pretty high for a KS and pretty impressive for only 3000 people, imagine if the team had of marketed the KS properly and brought more to the table...it probably would've got it's $800k plus most likely most of the stretch goals.

 

But the fact of the matter is, they didn't run the campaign properly, it didn't have enough to showcase and it wasn't advertised as widely as it should have been, they did give it a real go and got much better as time went on but it should of all been prepared properly before the KS launched in the first place, they know that now.

 

This game will get made and it is already picking up speed again now on their official Dev site with donations and pledges going live a few days ago. So I have re-pledged and am joining in on the fun and pretty awesome community over at https://www.pantheonrotf.com/members/home where a ton of loyal old school gamers and talking up a storm with the Devs and entire team, throwing around some pretty good idea's around, there is lot's of communication and I am genuinly liking what I am seeing at the moment.

 

If anyone is interested they should head on over and check it out and see what the community is helping the Devs with.

 
  Dauzqul

Spotlight Poster

Joined: 2/10/12
Posts: 1260

2/28/14 10:18:23 AM#28

I think it has more to do with how far the MMO has to go before it's even playable.

 

Only ultra hardcore people will give money to a game that is over 5+ years away from launch.

  Tibernicuspa

Apprentice Member

Joined: 11/03/13
Posts: 986

2/28/14 10:37:18 AM#29
Originally posted by rwyan

I just don't think Pantheon had that imaginative spark that the likes of other successful kickstarted projects had.

 

 

Comparably, if we look at the Macquaid factor, Camelot Unchained shouldn't have funded either. But it did, because CSG not only dwelled on oldschool nostalgia but also mixed in some interesting creative nuances.

 

 

Pantheon just came off as simply another attempt at EQ and Vanguard. Camelot Unchained felt like CSG wanted to not only deliver another DAOC but also wanted to throw in some interesting new layers into the mix.

This was what I said in the first post, and is pretty much the only accurate answer.

 

Originally posted by Razeekster
Originally posted by Tibernicuspa
And the irrational overblown McQuaid hate train keeps on rolling.

 

You apparently didn't read the article as the article is actually pretty much blaming Pantheon'failure on "Kickstarter-burnout."

We're talking about the comments here.
  Nadia

Elite Member

Joined: 7/26/03
Posts: 11414

2/28/14 10:44:16 AM#30
Originally posted by Reklaw
Sorry don't think so. I feel It's more about too little to show.

agree

  Talonsin

Spotlight Poster

Joined: 7/19/06
Posts: 1040

2/28/14 10:51:20 AM#31

I think between KS burnout and Steam greenlight burnout, many of us are just done throwing money at game concepts.  Many of these games change during development and turn out to not be what we were told they would.  They take forever to develop and launch making us wait for years or even worse, the development stops after a while and we are left with a shell of a game. 

 

It just is not a very good investment anymore.  We have absolutely no control over anything and once you give them your money the developer can legally do whatever they want.  They can change the game, not implement features they advertised or they can stop development and party with the cash.

  Nephaerius

Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/18/09
Posts: 1455

2/28/14 11:06:50 AM#32
The simplest explanation is usually the right one. It just wasn't an idea people were interested in

Twitter: @Nephaerius
Steam: Neph
Xbox 360 GT: Nephaerius

  Telondariel

Hard Core Member

Joined: 4/11/10
Posts: 877

2/28/14 11:07:38 AM#33
  1. Too little information
  2. Lack of preparation
  3. Lack of professionalism in their video pitch
  4. High risk figurehead with a mountain of controversy

 

Kickstarter burnout?  No. 

 

All you have to do is look at, well, any thread where Pantheon and Brad come up and it becomes a flamewar due to Brad's past.  No one speaks glowingly of how wonderful he is and what a solid, competent, trustworthy business investment he makes.  So, I wonder why the Kickstarter failed.  Oh, that's right, Kickstarter burnout. 

  Kost

Newshound

Joined: 1/15/10
Posts: 1978

In omnibus requiem quaesivi, et nusquam inveni nisi in angulo cum libro.

2/28/14 11:13:02 AM#34
Originally posted by Sybnal

I honestly don't think it has anything to do with Kickstarter burnout.  This has more to do with no one trusting Brad McQuaid to deliver a working product based on nothing but a vague outline that, quite frankly, sounds kinda boring. 

  Kilrain

Hard Core Member

Joined: 12/25/03
Posts: 474

2/28/14 11:19:11 AM#35
I've never personally participated in a kickstarter. Not because I didn't want to, but because I just can't afford to donate to the production of a game when I donate to other 'real' causes. If I were going to donate to the production of a game, this would have been it. I really hope Pantheon finds it way into reality, because this is the game I want to play.

professional web programming and design.

  JimmyYO

Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/13/11
Posts: 541

2/28/14 11:22:08 AM#36

Really seemed like the staff burned out on the last 10 days. They were doing video after video for almost a month then complete silence on the most important days left. It's textbook Brad McQuaid.....Generate a bunch of hype in the beginning then bow out at the end before anyone can blame him.

 

At least this project is attempting to continue but i see it slowly fading away while Brad cares less and less.

  Retired

Advanced Member

Joined: 4/02/08
Posts: 711

2/28/14 11:36:17 AM#37
Most important thing about Kickstarter that people do not realize is the content of the Kickstarter. Pantheon's Kickstarter was horrible, having things like crafting and classes for stretch goals. Those things should be in the game already when competing in today's mmo market. Stretch goals should be awesome fluff, not things that are in every mmo on planet already. Brad showed up with a weak presentation, and idiotic stretch goals, surprised they did over 400k with that crap. Now charging 15 dollars a month for forum access, guy is just horrible with business and common sense.
  Grintch

Advanced Member

Joined: 6/17/04
Posts: 39

2/28/14 11:38:53 AM#38
I think it had more to do with Brad's outdated ideas and his vision for the game, not any sort of kickstarter fatigue. For example,  SOTA, Elite, Torment, etc. are still bringing in money even after kickstarter campaigns. 
  MrBoots

Apprentice Member

Joined: 4/07/03
Posts: 279

2/28/14 12:02:12 PM#39
I think that there are two reasons the kickstarter failed. The mmo community's interests are moving toward open ended sandbox games with combat that is more "actiony" than the tab target auto attack systems of the past. The other reason is brad's poor reputation after the vanguard debacle. I'm really surprised anyone wants to work for him, and even more surprised anyone wants to trust him with their money.
  severius

Hard Core Member

Joined: 8/10/04
Posts: 1527

2/28/14 12:10:40 PM#40

Why anyone would assume that people would be waiting with baited breath to throw money at McQuaid really makes me question your critical thinking skills.  Unlike the fluff interview with him which was about as informative and worthwhile as Jon Stewart interviewing Obama, the reality is is that McQuaid is not a leader.  The story of Vanguards demise is well documented throughout the internet; How about a quote from someone who was actually working with him:

"Brad McQuaid didn’t do shit. (News Flash?) He’s had an opiate addiction for years now, which only got progressively worse as the project failed. His cumulative face time with sigil designers in the most crucial final years of development? Approx: 15 minutes. And some of the time was spent begging for legitimately acquired narcotics (Or in times of desperation, jacking them from people’s desk)."

 

Anyone that supported this should seriously get their heads checked.


4 Pages « 1 2 3 4 » Search