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  Lord.Bachus

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OP  2/27/14 1:30:32 PM#1

 

I have posted this two or three times in other threads, but it allways got drowned and never got anyone to react on it.  I think this is something that would make everyone happy

 

Some people complain about the dozens of people running around in the ancient thomb that just was discovered.  Others complain about how grouping not works in the world of soloquesting. While others just love most of the open world dungeons

 

in the settings tab they should add a default setting for prefered type of quest dungeon..

1) solo...  You enter the dungeon/instance/phase solo, and need to fight trough it all alone

2) grouped...  The dungeon content is harder and aimed at a 4 man group, bring your own friends

3) coop .. The dungeon content is harder and aimed at a group, you are grouped with the next 3 persons entering the dungeon.

4) open world...  Which is as it is now

5) choice...  You get the above 4 options to choose from every time you enter a dungeon..

this should make everyone hapy and the mega server technollogy just seems perfect for things like this.. If they have the resources to do it, it should not be that hard to program as long as the dungeons allow for some scaling..  Just wondering how you guys feel about this?  

 

 

Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  ElElyon

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Come play with us Danny......

2/27/14 1:36:08 PM#2

I thought of this exact thing, I love the idea.

One of my biggest complaints for this game is when I enter an instance to do a quest and there are 7 other people in there and they killed everything and all I have to do is run to my objective and run out. BORING!

I would love a button that says "make all my instances solo" so I would get the full experience of the quest and if its to hard I can zone out and flip the switch to "make it grouped" and zone back in.

I'm not sure how hard it would be on the servers if we all had our own instanced dungeons though so not sure if its possible.

  evilized

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2/27/14 1:36:35 PM#3
LDON
  Scrye777

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2/27/14 1:38:11 PM#4
No, they already differentiate content, you as the player are welcome to participate or not in any of said content.  Funny how people can't handle making simple decisions, they want everything available at all times, not going to happen, welcome to reality.  This game is going to have things you don't like...accept it.
  Vidir

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2/27/14 1:38:55 PM#5
When the gamemakers start to reward all kinds of gameplay alike I will gladly return and pay subscription fee for playing their games.
  Scrye777

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2/27/14 1:42:35 PM#6
Nothing in life is fair, nothing.  Once you accept that you'll stop whining ;).
  Lord.Bachus

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OP  2/27/14 1:48:04 PM#7

Originally posted by evilized
LDON

Lost Dungeons of norath... Never played them as i left EQ in 2001 for DAoC and never looked back, i cherish the good memmories of the old days when i think back about EQ...

Originally posted by Vidir
When the gamemakers start to reward all kinds of gameplay alike I will gladly return and pay subscription fee for playing their games.

This says enough... 

Originally posted by Scrye777
Nothing in life is fair, nothing.  Once you accept that you'll stop whining ;).

Nothing is fair, and i willl accept the game as it is and enjoy it...  But since its this easy to make everyone happy, i dont get your attitude...  I dont take away anything from anyone and give others precisely what they ask for.... I think espescially in yhe ESO game this would make a lot of sense

Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  Scrye777

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2/27/14 1:58:03 PM#8

My point was, it is impossible to make everyone happy.  So only an insane dev group would even try that, best bet is to pick a direction, go with it and hope what you create is accepted by enough people to make it a success.

 

 

  Lord.Bachus

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OP  2/27/14 2:13:00 PM#9
Originally posted by Scrye777

My point was, it is impossible to make everyone happy.  So only an insane dev group would even try that, best bet is to pick a direction, go with it and hope what you create is accepted by enough people to make it a success.

 

 

You severely miss the point.....   I never said a solution like this would make everyone happy.. We both know that such a thing will never happen.... What i am suggesting is a quite easy sollution that would adress two major complaints withouth requiring a lot of work... And most importantly not taking anything away from anyone..

 

I think if you can make some people happy with a little work, without taking anything away from others... And even adding a lot of diversity to the game.... You should allways do so it will help the longlevity of the game and keep people happy longer..

Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  Magiknight

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2/27/14 2:16:49 PM#10
Nope. It's an MMO. Open world dungeon where everyone has access to it in the same time/ place is the only way to go.
  Magiknight

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2/27/14 2:19:44 PM#11
And this is where things get crazy. I haven't played ESO but every MMO I have played in the last decade had instanced dungeons. So now comes the only MMO I know of with open world dungeons, which I love, and everyone starts crying about it? Come on there are DOZENS of MMOs with the instanced dungeons you love. Pick one. Can't we have one MMO with open world dungeons?
  Lord.Bachus

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OP  2/27/14 2:28:06 PM#12
Originally posted by Magiknight
And this is where things get crazy. I haven't played ESO but every MMO I have played in the last decade had instanced dungeons. So now comes the only MMO I know of with open world dungeons, which I love, and everyone starts crying about it? Come on there are DOZENS of MMOs with the instanced dungeons you love. Pick one. Can't we have one MMO with open world dungeons?

Guess again... Its not open world dungeons.... These dungeons are all part of solo personal story experiences... You often cant even get in if you are not on the right step of a quest....  There is nothing truely open world about most of them...

 

i am a big fan of true open world dungeons, but these just arent...    In this time open world dungeons should have open world objectives, but in this game there is only a single solo objective in these small dungeons and nothing else to archieve

 

there is also atleast one larger open world dungeon in each zone.... Offcourse all the above does not reflect on those dungeons

Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  Scrye777

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2/27/14 2:33:37 PM#13
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

Originally posted by evilized
LDON

Lost Dungeons of norath... Never played them as i left EQ in 2001 for DAoC and never looked back, i cherish the good memmories of the old days when i think back about EQ...

Originally posted by Vidir
When the gamemakers start to reward all kinds of gameplay alike I will gladly return and pay subscription fee for playing their games.

This says enough... 

Originally posted by Scrye777
Nothing in life is fair, nothing.  Once you accept that you'll stop whining ;).

Nothing is fair, and i willl accept the game as it is and enjoy it...  But since its this easy to make everyone happy, i dont get your attitude...  I dont take away anything from anyone and give others precisely what they ask for.... I think espescially in yhe ESO game this would make a lot of sense

You said...But since its this easy to make EVERYONE happy,...

I don't want other players hiding out in instances, splitting the playerbase that I can interact with.  So, as you see it won't make everyone happy, lol.

  Scrye777

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2/27/14 2:35:39 PM#14
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
Originally posted by Scrye777

My point was, it is impossible to make everyone happy.  So only an insane dev group would even try that, best bet is to pick a direction, go with it and hope what you create is accepted by enough people to make it a success.

 

 

You severely miss the point.....   I never said a solution like this would make everyone happy.. We both know that such a thing will never happen.... What i am suggesting is a quite easy sollution that would adress two major complaints withouth requiring a lot of work... And most importantly not taking anything away from anyone..

 

I think if you can make some people happy with a little work, without taking anything away from others... And even adding a lot of diversity to the game.... You should allways do so it will help the longlevity of the game and keep people happy longer..

See above response 

  Lord.Bachus

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I believe in life before death... So dont forget to enjoy it while you still can.

 
OP  2/27/14 2:38:24 PM#15
Originally posted by Scrye777
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

Originally posted by evilized
LDON

Lost Dungeons of norath... Never played them as i left EQ in 2001 for DAoC and never looked back, i cherish the good memmories of the old days when i think back about EQ...

Originally posted by Vidir
When the gamemakers start to reward all kinds of gameplay alike I will gladly return and pay subscription fee for playing their games.

This says enough... 

Originally posted by Scrye777
Nothing in life is fair, nothing.  Once you accept that you'll stop whining ;).

Nothing is fair, and i willl accept the game as it is and enjoy it...  But since its this easy to make everyone happy, i dont get your attitude...  I dont take away anything from anyone and give others precisely what they ask for.... I think espescially in yhe ESO game this would make a lot of sense

You said...But since its this easy to make EVERYONE happy,...

I don't want other players hiding out in instances, splitting the playerbase that I can interact with.  So, as you see it won't make everyone happy, lol.

You have got any idea how the mega server handles things... Everyone is allready split up in small instances... Even this weekend when there could be half a million people in your starting zone, you will never see more then a few around.. With mega server technollogy you will not even notice up anything splitting up... Because its allready splitted up, but now it will be splitted up differently, ..... Without anyone noticing it...

 

the system uses the brilliance of the mega server technollogy

Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  ElElyon

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Come play with us Danny......

2/27/14 2:39:49 PM#16

Lord, Scry is just trolling you, ignore him.

 

I still love this idea, and I personally do think this would make EVERYONE happy :)

  Magiknight

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2/27/14 2:40:48 PM#17
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
Originally posted by Magiknight
And this is where things get crazy. I haven't played ESO but every MMO I have played in the last decade had instanced dungeons. So now comes the only MMO I know of with open world dungeons, which I love, and everyone starts crying about it? Come on there are DOZENS of MMOs with the instanced dungeons you love. Pick one. Can't we have one MMO with open world dungeons?

Guess again... Its not open world dungeons.... These dungeons are all part of solo personal story experiences... You often cant even get in if you are not on the right step of a quest....  There is nothing truely open world about most of them...

 

i am a big fan of true open world dungeons, but these just arent...    In this time open world dungeons should have open world objectives, but in this game there is only a single solo objective in these small dungeons and nothing else to archieve

 

there is also atleast one larger open world dungeon in each zone.... Offcourse all the above does not reflect on those dungeons

Forget everything I said. My mistake

  Scrye777

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2/27/14 2:43:36 PM#18
I understand how it works.  We already have instanced dungeons and phased questing, we don't need any more places for people to hide.  Play the game the way it is, it's very simple.
  Lord.Bachus

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OP  2/27/14 2:45:59 PM#19
Originally posted by Magiknight
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
Originally posted by Magiknight
And this is where things get crazy. I haven't played ESO but every MMO I have played in the last decade had instanced dungeons. So now comes the only MMO I know of with open world dungeons, which I love, and everyone starts crying about it? Come on there are DOZENS of MMOs with the instanced dungeons you love. Pick one. Can't we have one MMO with open world dungeons?

Guess again... Its not open world dungeons.... These dungeons are all part of solo personal story experiences... You often cant even get in if you are not on the right step of a quest....  There is nothing truely open world about most of them...

 

i am a big fan of true open world dungeons, but these just arent...    In this time open world dungeons should have open world objectives, but in this game there is only a single solo objective in these small dungeons and nothing else to archieve

 

there is also atleast one larger open world dungeon in each zone.... Offcourse all the above does not reflect on those dungeons

Forget everything I said. My mistake

No problem mate...  Hope you get to experience things for yourself soon, as despite little things like this, i personally enjoyed playing it. But there is allways wishes... And sometimes a player that thinks he has a great idea..

Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  Lord.Bachus

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Joined: 5/14/07
Posts: 8630

I believe in life before death... So dont forget to enjoy it while you still can.

 
OP  2/27/14 2:48:59 PM#20
Originally posted by Scrye777
I understand how it works.  We already have instanced dungeons and phased questing, we don't need any more places for people to hide.  Play the game the way it is, it's very simple.

And exactly that part of the content i am talking about... Nothing else, just that part... And if they improve that part, many will be hapy.....  And for you pr sake,... Some of the final quest dungeons that are now strictly solo, would become groupable with this system, dividing things less then now...

 

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