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2/22/14 5:45:41 PM#121

Well... since this is a PvP post...Let me sum up the choices much easier.


ESO = Has Large Open PvP area for you to fight in, most similar to DAOC and Guild War 2 WvW area.

Wildstar = Battlegrounds, Most similar to WoW, Rift,SWTOR.....


If you liked the open pvp area's like DAOC, play ESO


If you liked Battlegrounds like WoW, play Wildstar.


Pretty simple
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2/22/14 5:56:11 PM#122
Playing wowstar beta and can say I don't like it. Same old same old with combat that's not as good as guild wars 2. Its ESO for me.

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2/22/14 6:28:10 PM#123
I think both games are terrible at early levels. I wish devs would learn that the early game is just as important as end game. I hear both are better later on but right now I don't know if I'll be playing either of them.

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2/22/14 6:33:50 PM#124

I´ve tried both in BETA...

...and since there is NDA, all i can say is that i´ll be buying ESO.



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2/22/14 6:57:34 PM#125

I dont agree with Gareths view of what mmorpg's should be when it comes to content: Instanced/lobby endgame. The more a mmorpg has open world open content the better it is in my eyes.


The current standard themepark style instanced end game is anti social, people sit in main cities waiting in que with their guildies after the leveling is done, or use the group finder tool for a dungeon blitz where no one says a word the whole time, unless someone somehow manages to screw up then they call him names and tells him to frack off. No element of surprises, no chance for random encounters, no excitement, just running after the reward at 100% efficiency.


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2/22/14 7:08:47 PM#126
Originally posted by Dogblaster
Wildstar is real Mmorpg. Who cares that it doesnt bring anything super new? For me its good thing, I will always buy car with 4 wheels, eat pizza with cheese and tomato, not chcolate. All I wanted from mmorpg is does everything right and be fun. Thats wildstar :)

Wildstar is a real MMO.  ESO is a real MMORPG.  I would say that is the essential difference between the two.

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2/22/14 9:05:36 PM#127

I'm with Chris on this one, I suspect ESO will do better in the market.

Huge IP, a rather massive advertising campaign (I can't visit a site these days without seeing an ESO banner) and it doesn't have NCSoft attached to it - which means a lot for all the people they burned with CoH's shutdown and rotten treatment of Paragon Studios.

My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)


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2/22/14 9:07:22 PM#128
Originally posted by Xsorus

Well... since this is a PvP post...Let me sum up the choices much easier.


ESO = Has Large Open PvP area for you to fight in, most similar to DAOC and Guild War 2 WvW area.

Wildstar = Battlegrounds, Most similar to WoW, Rift,SWTOR.....


If you liked the open pvp area's like DAOC, play ESO


If you liked Battlegrounds like WoW, play Wildstar.


Pretty simple

Fail. You forgot Wilstar's 40player Warplots and "true" OWPVP.  Or maybe you didn't forget.

MMOs Played: FFXI,Age of Conan, Aion, Rift, SWTOR, TERA, TSW, GW2


Waiting For: Wildstar, The Repopulation, Archeage, TESO, Warhammer 40K:EC, EQN


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2/22/14 10:27:10 PM#129

As niave as it seems, graphics play a huge role in mmo's for me these days. I have enough cartoon-like graphic mmo's under my belt. For this reason, I'm unable to take Wildstar serious and won't be trying it.


ESO may need some work still, but the Cyrodiil pvp is the closest to DAOC styled rvr since DAOC so it will hold me for quite some time alone.

Dozens of MMO's, RTS's, FPS's, etc.


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2/23/14 1:07:48 AM#130
Originally posted by plescure
also they are charging £50 for ESO!!! WTF!

Serious get over yourself all MMO cost alot at start WoW, EQ2, AoC, GW, GW2 serious do think it should be cheap for £50 is alot for CE how much do CE cost when you buy at a release of new MMO or expansion????


Do you really think WildStar CE will be cheap then you have dont know much company dont work for charity and need to get money from somewhere.


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For those who have ears, let them hear..

2/23/14 1:56:35 AM#131
I wont be buy ESO anymore because they decided not to go cross platform. Big mistake to me. I am a PS4 player now and to think that i only play with ps4 users bothers me. I wonder, what if the population on the ps4 starts dieing but the pc/mac is still popin? I have to buy a nice computer, re buy ESO and restart to play the game with people. I dont feel the security i do with Final Fantasy XiV. They made it cross platform and not only do i feel more security i can play with my friends that play on computers.

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2/23/14 2:08:41 AM#132
Originally posted by MysticStyleS
I wont be buy ESO anymore because they decided not to go cross platform. Big mistake to me. I am a PS4 player now and to think that i only play with ps4 users bothers me. I wonder, what if the population on the ps4 starts dieing but the pc/mac is still popin? I have to buy a nice computer, re buy ESO and restart to play the game with people. I dont feel the security i do with Final Fantasy XiV. They made it cross platform and not only do i feel more security i can play with my friends that play on computers.

I thought it was cross platform.  Sad to hear it isn't.  I imagine this has more to do with MS/Xbox than Sony/PS though.  Since as you pointed out FFXIV did it.


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2/23/14 4:02:11 AM#133

ESO has horrible combat.  It's a shame because the DAOC PvP aspect would really appeal to me... but how can anyone enjoy fighting with such a horrible combat system is beyond me. It's also ridiculously expensive AND has a monthly charge.

Wildstar feels like WoW vanilla with a lot more features. Also the PLEX feature interests me since I'll be able to play for free.

I'll probably play Wildstar until I get bored with it and I'll try ESO when it goes F2P.



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2/23/14 4:29:55 AM#134

Wow a fight verus subs model verus a optional sub/f2p model


Doesn't matter how good ESO is at the end of the day people will not want to sub for longer periods

They will rip it so bad

I feel it will head to same fate as SWTOR unless they change to other payment model

Lets say of the 2 games I triedn following are the no of hours I put in each one


1)  ESO  - 5 to 6 hours  did not feel inclined to play more , tried many classes and profession before finding a play style.


2)    Wildstar - Over  16 hours over the weekend

 Did not realize how time flied by liked the settler engineer combo at 1st try

having said that not sure if I will go for wildstar


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2/23/14 6:30:25 AM#135

ESO - I'll cover it gently... RvR!!! (And that's without beta access!).

And I am NOT a pvper, I did a few BGs in WoW, some WvW in GW2 (mainly trying to feed my RvR addiction), but I have only ever loved one pvp, and that was RvR in DAoC!

Even the zergs were fun! Don't miss the Mezzes much though, standing there for a minute at a time as your allys are murdered... Damn Mids! ;)


Wildstar - Well, if SWTOR, WoW and GW2 had a threesome, THIS would be the bastard child. (And this Beta I do have access to!).

While the combat is fun, it rang out a lot of GW2's jump about like a eejit mode.

The telegraphs were like WoW's raid boss warnings and nothing special.

Some of the quests were very different in nature, but very much like WoW's.


In the end would I buy both? Yes!

In fact I've got my Imp edition ESO waiting in the wings, and plan to get Wildstar to replace my SWTOR sub (while ESO kills off my DAoC and WoW accounts for good).

Will they both last the test of time? Only time itself will tell. :)



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2/23/14 7:35:01 AM#136
WILDSTAR deffo, no ESO for me. While WS is a true MMO, ESO looks like a multiplayer co-op game.

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2/23/14 11:46:59 AM#137
Interesting, while excited  to play ESO, Wildstar prolly has a better chance at a long term monthly sub for a number of reasons.  Hmm we shall see.


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2/23/14 1:20:13 PM#138
Originally posted by NetSage
Originally posted by MysticStyleS
I wont be buy ESO anymore because they decided not to go cross platform. Big mistake to me. I am a PS4 player now and to think that i only play with ps4 users bothers me. I wonder, what if the population on the ps4 starts dieing but the pc/mac is still popin? I have to buy a nice computer, re buy ESO and restart to play the game with people. I dont feel the security i do with Final Fantasy XiV. They made it cross platform and not only do i feel more security i can play with my friends that play on computers.

I thought it was cross platform.  Sad to hear it isn't.  I imagine this has more to do with MS/Xbox than Sony/PS though.  Since as you pointed out FFXIV did it.


Im sure it has something to do with MS/XboX. They have a control thing about not doing cross platform. Im also sure because of XboX not wanting it, they probably decided, well we cant have playstation/PC/Mac together and XboX by itself. I hate MS. lol


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2/23/14 5:18:52 PM#139

"open tapping of mobs to make quests less frustrating"


I read this and have to wonder whether the guy writing this is just stupid, or just hasnt played the game at all. Quests are all completed based on percentages. If you needed to kill a Goat in an area for a quest, and killed it solo, it might give you 30% completion. you may also find goats that come in groups of 2, and with about 30% less hp. If you were to kill the group of two goats, youd still get 30% completion. Sometimes the mobs come 3 at a time, but with about 60% less hp. Again, killing all three solo yields the same 30% completion. Now, if 10 people all tagged that one solo goat, and killed it, they would each get % completion based on a proportion of the dmg they did to the goat. THE ONE GOAT IS STILL WORTH 30%, ITS NOW JUST DIVIDED UP BETWEEN ALL THE INCREDIBLY FRUSTRATED PLAYERS HITTING IT.. Challenges are the same way, most challenges are impossible bc there is not enough completion % that will spawn for more than 2-3 people for area. THIS IS 100% FAIL. The 99% fluff "tweet-quests" in Wildstar are just plain fucking garbage. I grind on mobs 2 lvl higher than me, 1 kill yields about 3.5% of my lvl. Then i do a POS quest where i run around trying to find things without nameplates.. or looking for random crap on the ground thats designed to blend in to the ENORMOUS AMMOUNT OF USELESS SHIT CLUTTER, already found. The quest takes 20-25 minutes, and after comepleting the stages, the turn in gives me about 2-4%. In the meantime.. grinding mobs, in 25 minutes , ive gained roughly 70% of my lvl, gotten loot, drops, and rep. The game is a TERRIBLE quest grind, and visually nauseating. Anyone who is running arond fanboi'ing this game is kidding themselves. This is WoW 2.0 with XTRA Sarcasm and a pittance of innovation in completely useless areas. If you love WoW, and want to keep playing that type of game, go for Wildstar, although i garauntee your transition will NOT BE SMOOTH. The one thing youll find to be the most simmillar is the community. /advice channel is basically barrens chat, complete with "brahs" "alienwares" and "chuck norris jokes". The reason is that the game itself is meaningless. It has no story other than sarcasm and bad attempts at wit. The central conflict between Exile and Dominion is fluff and you dont give a flying **** about the other side really. There's a reason ESO is getting way more hype than Wildstar, and thats bc Wildstar is REALLLY REALLLY HO-HUM boring. I lvld 3 toons to 20 in 1 day this past beta weekend, and ill tell you, the MOST FUN i had while playing Wildstar was just aimlessly doing trick jumps on my hoverboard in the main cities. The physics were great, like something out of a Tony Hawk game. Its just too bad the game was SO BLAND and MINDNUMBINGLY boring, that i didnt even want to leave the city, let alone queue up for shitty instanced battleground pvp, where all you do is ( typewriter) hammer away at skills, bc the telelgraphs of 29 other players on the ground is fucking retarded.


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2/23/14 11:02:41 PM#140

Um this is WAY simpler than what you guys made it out to be.


ESO has 20 years of previous games with 20mil+ fans.


Wildstar is a new IP.


IDC about any details beyond that, ESO wins. 


That being said they're both pretty mediocre games.

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