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  Spawnblade

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2/17/14 3:48:31 PM#41
They should just remove monster telegraphing altogether.  If you can't tell what a monster is going to do from its skill animation, you shouldn't know to dodge it.  I mean... giant red circle?  Glowing lines pointing you to healers?  Clearly this is intended for people who just aren't good at games.  But why lower everyone to that level?  It's like No Gamer Left Behind.
  the420kid

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2/17/14 3:55:31 PM#42
the games awsome even with its flaws, I am really looking forward to its launch and much like yourself I think its worth the 60 bones.  Will it keep me playing and paying for the next 6 months?  Only time will tell but I think its most def worth 60 for a month of play much like a single player game but it has the potential to keep me interested but for how long that I dont know yet but I really look forward to finding out :)
  Lahuzer

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2/17/14 3:57:18 PM#43
Originally posted by Nemesis7884
Originally posted by Lahuzer
Seems like the actuall endgame PVP with RvRvR is pointless, so I will pass on ESO. They sure missed the chance on making this the first AAA-sandbox MMO. So sad. And with the themepark changes to ArcheAge, us sandbox lovers will have to stick to indie games like Mortal Online (that almost is more of a "Elder Scrolls"-MMO then ESO...). And I personally look forward to The Repopulation myself.
 
 

i guess "fun" in a game is pointless for you....

 

Yeah, to me pointless PVP and RvRvR ain't "fun". Needs to be something on the line for it to be "fun" for me. And  by that I mean more then some crappy alliance points...

 
  Lahuzer

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2/17/14 3:58:23 PM#44
Originally posted by SavageHorizon
Originally posted by Lahuzer
Seems like the actuall endgame PVP with RvRvR is pointless, so I will pass on ESO. They sure missed the chance on making this the first AAA-sandbox MMO. So sad. And with the themepark changes to ArcheAge, us sandbox lovers will have to stick to indie games like Mortal Online (that almost is more of a "Elder Scrolls"-MMO then ESO...). And I personally look forward to The Repopulation myself.
 

You are forgetting Black Desert. http://www.black-desert.com/#

 

No. I have my eyes on that one as well. But it's even further away then The Repopulation. But I agree. That one is on my radar. And looks rly good.

  Octagon7711

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2/17/14 4:13:38 PM#45
How will the PS4 & Xbox1 users take to this game?  Grumblings already heard about the monthly fee and what about all the mods the PC users will have access to use that they won't?  Unfair?  Time will tell...

  Mr.Wizard

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2/17/14 4:27:44 PM#46
I'm getting more and more doubts about buying this game. It looked so well, was very promising and I've been seriously thinking to pre-order but I've gone from "maybe getting the collectors edition" to "getting the regular pre-order" to "perhaps its better to wait until its released and has some reviews". It's a bloody shame, I've been a fan since Morrowind but ESO seems to walk the wrong path too much for me to be a instant buy.

  doodphace

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2/17/14 4:27:50 PM#47
Originally posted by Arskaaa
Originally posted by Vivasvan
2000 pvp maybe better for you. Since it's a skilless mindless gankfest something you can do in many free to play games for free. The 2000 pvp is just a cheaper method for devs to let the players just have a go at each other.


Why would I pay $15 a month for that? It's available free in many mmos.

Where as good raiding is now only available in about 3 or 4 mmos.

$15 a month = that you must have raiding
 

Raided all WoW raids just hitting one button. when u done raids, u know all tactics and its just move tis spot soon, spam 2 2 2 2 2 2 2, move again, spam 2 2 2 2 2.

 

You should prob do something harder than LFR.

  elocke

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2/17/14 4:29:27 PM#48

Never had an issue with phasing.  Love it actually. 

Never had an issue with First Person view because I never use FPV, it's pointless because it's not "true" first person when you have no peripheral vision. 

The combat not "feeling" right I agree with, especially with ranged caster combat.  My sorcerer made me want to cry it sucked so bad.  And I LOVE mage type classes in my MMOs. 

The freedom is nice, but I still had no real reason to go exploring, or at least I wasn't shown one in order to immerse me and make me want more, which I feel is an issue with the starting tutorial area and following starting zones. 

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  MrG8

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2/17/14 5:19:57 PM#49
I dont agree with any of the bad points.. Wonder how many levels you played .. :)
  JJ82

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2/17/14 5:30:22 PM#50

Over-bloated pros going well out of the way to stretch things to make it sound like Skyrim? Check

Apologetic cons doing everything possible to tone them down? Check. (though I give you credit for #1 for being both apologetic and pointing out their identity crisis).

It is not possible for combat to be slow and underdeveloped AND have great RvR as RvR depends ENTIRELY on combat. This is like stating a first person shooter is great even though the game has major aiming issues. This, is the single biggest thing not talked about on gaming sites, something that has only been touched on by V-bloggers, modding sites and major fan sites.

PvP, all PvP depends on the games combat, one of the weakest points about this game especially when the animations are thrown in, while not as bad as TSWs animations, they are damn close to it. If you were to toss in that the world is being invaded by the God of RAPE, the entire idea of all alliances attacking Cyrodiil makes even less sense and destroys immersion.

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  Avarix

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2/17/14 6:01:16 PM#51

I had a hard time seeing past the combat to be honest. It felt bad. Like it was fighting me the whole time. It didn't feel responsive. Combat is the main thing I would be doing in a PvP focused game like this. 

 

I never played DAoC and I know a lot of people on these forums loved that game. I figured this would be my chance to get a taste of that. It seems ESO will be using some of those mechanics and they look really fun but I am confident in my decision to pass on this one. If it was crafting, immersion, quests, or a handful of other things that I disliked I would be able to look past it. I can't do that with combat though.

  Mandalore

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2/17/14 6:38:10 PM#52

You missed the awefull UI. Its one of the worst in the MMORPG genre. 

As long as they donf support standard MMO funcionality its no game for me. 

I need an overview of my buffs and debuffs and some way to see my damage (SCT and/or combatlog in chat).

Thats the bare minimum. 

 

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  drkoro

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2/17/14 7:00:06 PM#53

I think the item 5 at the list its not that bad as described.

Since Teso uses alot of instancing, you have an option to click "Travel to player", so you will go to his/her instance again, and be able to help on the story again.

Whats really a No No...

- HP Bars too slim, its hard to noticed em rightly at PvP, specially if an ally its not on your raid.

- Lack of tagging, you cant mark players/mob to setup an order attack.

- Lack of buff/debuff icons, this really makes harder for healer to track stuff.

  jacker1991

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2/17/14 7:05:52 PM#54
Originally posted by Nemesis7884
Originally posted by Vivasvan
The worst thing is no solid dungeon raiding. Just something called adventure zones. Which are a 12 man gank/ rift or final fantasy style fate.

$15 a month for that and the end game?

Get real ESO what were u devs on when you decided that the end game didn't matter.

 

you see, the thing is - a lot of people - me included - couldnt care less about raiding... and whats better? 40 men raiding? or 2000 men pvp?

LOLS!

  doodphace

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2/17/14 7:19:14 PM#55
Originally posted by Vivasvan
Wow raiding on lfr is easy and that's what your used too. Wow is a dumbed down game. Extremely dumbed down. I'm not talking of wow raiding as it is now.

Lotro raids were extremely difficult and hugely satisfying and so are final fantasy ones.

ESO without raids means they just are making shortcuts to the endgame and it's the endgame that keeps a game living. Without it it will die as ESO will find out

WoW's heroic raids are the hardest, most challenging, complex, and rewarding raids of any game on the market, by a large margin. Why are you pigeon holding WoW's raid content to lfr?

 

  martinsdemon

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2/17/14 7:37:42 PM#56
Originally posted by Arskaaa
Originally posted by Vivasvan
2000 pvp maybe better for you. Since it's a skilless mindless gankfest something you can do in many free to play games for free. The 2000 pvp is just a cheaper method for devs to let the players just have a go at each other.


Why would I pay $15 a month for that? It's available free in many mmos.

Where as good raiding is now only available in about 3 or 4 mmos.

$15 a month = that you must have raiding
 

Raided all WoW raids just hitting one button. when u done raids, u know all tactics and its just move tis spot soon, spam 2 2 2 2 2 2 2, move again, spam 2 2 2 2 2.

And you were probably the lowest dps in your raid, day after day. Top end raiding in WoW was nothing like that.

  Randallt3mp

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2/17/14 7:47:51 PM#57
Originally posted by Spawnblade
They should just remove monster telegraphing altogether.  If you can't tell what a monster is going to do from its skill animation, you shouldn't know to dodge it.  I mean... giant red circle?  Glowing lines pointing you to healers?  Clearly this is intended for people who just aren't good at games.  But why lower everyone to that level?  It's like No Money* Left Behind.

Fixed that for you.  And yes i agree.  On top of that the monsters telegraphed moves finish way to slowly for anyone with half a brain to be caught in it when it goes off.

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  Randallt3mp

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2/17/14 7:51:16 PM#58
Originally posted by Lahuzer
Originally posted by Nemesis7884
Originally posted by Lahuzer
Seems like the actuall endgame PVP with RvRvR is pointless, so I will pass on ESO. They sure missed the chance on making this the first AAA-sandbox MMO. So sad. And with the themepark changes to ArcheAge, us sandbox lovers will have to stick to indie games like Mortal Online (that almost is more of a "Elder Scrolls"-MMO then ESO...). And I personally look forward to The Repopulation myself.
 
 

i guess "fun" in a game is pointless for you....

 

Yeah, to me pointless PVP and RvRvR ain't "fun". Needs to be something on the line for it to be "fun" for me. And  by that I mean more then some crappy alliance points...

 

I think they call that extrinsically rewarding.

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  Tierless

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2/17/14 7:55:23 PM#59
"Zones in ESO" I find it sad that we've fallen so far that "big zones" are considered a quality world. I cant begin to stress how frustrating an ES game without a massive world is.
 

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  Latronus

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2/17/14 7:56:45 PM#60
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by Vivasvan
Wow raiding on lfr is easy and that's what your used too. Wow is a dumbed down game. Extremely dumbed down. I'm not talking of wow raiding as it is now.

Lotro raids were extremely difficult and hugely satisfying and so are final fantasy ones.

ESO without raids means they just are making shortcuts to the endgame and it's the endgame that keeps a game living. Without it it will die as ESO will find out

WoW's heroic raids are the hardest, most challenging, complex, and rewarding raids of any game on the market, by a large margin. Why are you pigeon holding WoW's raid content to lfr?

 

Opinions are just that, opinions.   I totally disagree but that doesn't make me anymore right than you.  We just like different things.

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