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  elvenwolf

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Joined: 3/10/04
Posts: 136

2/17/14 4:42:25 AM#21

Hello,

Mostly depend on your tastes.

I tried both ESO and Wildstar, and did play GW2 to level 80.

 

If you like Fantasy, ESO is a good pick, it does have a slow start, but pick up later,  the experience is paced more slowly then an usual MMORPG, there is  a good chunk of exploration, and the landscape can be gorgeous , it does have a good crafting system, and the stories you will meet in them are meaningful.

The way to develope your character is very Elder scrollish, you can mix and match things , and end up with something you like , the starting class have it's weight, but is heavily influenced also in how you decide to develope it.

The main focus at endgame mostly is the three sides PVP, if you like that kind of game, is not a bad pick.

 

Wildstar is a more "Conventional" MMO, but mind it does have it's innovations, I can't go too much in details because NDA, but I didn't feel at all I was playing WoW in space, It does have it's character and it's personality. There is a lot to explore too, and if you like a bit of cartony graphic, it is gorgeous in it's own way, with grass moved by the wind,  ambient sounds... It does take a moment to get used to it's style but if you can do it is rewarding.

The class system is not as open as ESO, you have defined roles, but, without being able to tell too much, you have ways to personalize your style and your own way to play your class(es)

Wildstar is a bit more about PVE, even if it does have it's own PvP and can be fun and frenetic, is not the three side long campaign type of PvP of ESO, but is not less fun. A big focus will be the 20 and 40 man raids if you want the top notch gear.

 

GW2 have a lot to do too, it's combat can be frenetic, but mind if you love the trinity, is not for you,  one have to think a bit out of the box when playing GW2, the classes can be very fun, and if you can get into it's way of "non trinity" dungeons can be fun too. 

Zones are not extremily huge, but are large enough to be interesting, of the three , even with underwater exploring, i might say that personally find is the one that offer less as exploration; But hae a surprise or two in the ways of jumping puzzles that you can find if you look around the map.

Endgame .. mhhh well, a lot have been said about the WvWvW of GW2, it have it's fun moments, and can make you pass time, but mind, zerging it is used even if arenanet is trying to expand on PvP and make it less.. zergish, if it will suceed only time will tell.

 

I hope this can be useful to you for your choice.

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  Elsabolts

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2/17/14 4:42:59 AM#22
Give the free to play EQ2 a try then sub it.
  User Deleted
2/17/14 4:43:58 AM#23
Originally posted by maple2
Originally posted by Eighteen16
Originally posted by maple2

Gw2 Got nearly no Endgame content, but plenty of other content,

ESO looks like crap and the handling and combat is weak and stupid.

 

Wildstar is the next big mmo, with its 20,40 man raids, hardcore content, tons of endgame content, extremly deep crafting system

 

Oh look, it is a an advertising bot impersonating a human. 

.... lol u are funny , Not.

 

Don't pay it any attention, it's just an advertising bot for ESO impersonating a human.

  darkrain21

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2/17/14 4:46:47 AM#24

Id say play what ever calls to you. 

Also the only things that wildstar and wow share is its look and some of the quests look wowish but honestly the game is 98% diffrent than wow

  handlewithcare

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Joined: 1/13/14
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2/17/14 4:48:07 AM#25
Originally posted by gxizhe

Since EQN wouldn't be out until maybe 2015, I need another game to kill time

I have come down to these three games because I tried most of the popular free MMOs and they all suck in one way or another

For P2P MMOs EVE is too hard for new players and WOW I just think it's too late to start

So please give me some suggestions

GW2 is pretty but grindy,i played ESO beta is great but expensive and people say wild star is not good ill bite the bullet and buy ESO its not like the old mmo`s not grindy and looks close to skyrim and the combat is great.

I logged in 4 times a day just to play-could not get enough of it,they say though stay away from the archer its soft target so that gets boring,I played sorcerer but the Templar has got spears like nevewinter cleric and sunburst and you can change weapons the whole time also exploring in a limited way but mush more than other mmo`s.

get it you will not be sorry,get a good graffix card the world is very pretty.

  Agent_Joseph

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Joined: 11/11/06
Posts: 804

2/17/14 4:59:58 AM#26
Originally posted by gxizhe

Since EQN wouldn't be out until maybe 2015, I need another game to kill time

I have come down to these three games because I tried most of the popular free MMOs and they all suck in one way or another

For P2P MMOs EVE is too hard for new players and WOW I just think it's too late to start

So please give me some suggestions

it is not true ! Eve is easy game , it is different but not complicated.

only EVE is real MMO...but I am impressive with TSW

  Herase

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Joined: 1/17/12
Posts: 208

2/17/14 6:11:07 AM#27
Originally posted by elvenwolf

Hello,

Mostly depend on your tastes.

I tried both ESO and Wildstar, and did play GW2 to level 80.

 

If you like Fantasy, ESO is a good pick, it does have a slow start, but pick up later,  the experience is paced more slowly then an usual MMORPG, there is  a good chunk of exploration, and the landscape can be gorgeous , it does have a good crafting system, and the stories you will meet in them are meaningful.

The way to develope your character is very Elder scrollish, you can mix and match things , and end up with something you like , the starting class have it's weight, but is heavily influenced also in how you decide to develope it.

The main focus at endgame mostly is the three sides PVP, if you like that kind of game, is not a bad pick.

 

Wildstar is a more "Conventional" MMO, but mind it does have it's innovations, I can't go too much in details because NDA, but I didn't feel at all I was playing WoW in space, It does have it's character and it's personality. There is a lot to explore too, and if you like a bit of cartony graphic, it is gorgeous in it's own way, with grass moved by the wind,  ambient sounds... It does take a moment to get used to it's style but if you can do it is rewarding.

The class system is not as open as ESO, you have defined roles, but, without being able to tell too much, you have ways to personalize your style and your own way to play your class(es)

Wildstar is a bit more about PVE, even if it does have it's own PvP and can be fun and frenetic, is not the three side long campaign type of PvP of ESO, but is not less fun. A big focus will be the 20 and 40 man raids if you want the top notch gear.

 

GW2 have a lot to do too, it's combat can be frenetic, but mind if you love the trinity, is not for you,  one have to think a bit out of the box when playing GW2, the classes can be very fun, and if you can get into it's way of "non trinity" dungeons can be fun too. 

Zones are not extremily huge, but are large enough to be interesting, of the three , even with underwater exploring, i might say that personally find is the one that offer less as exploration; But hae a surprise or two in the ways of jumping puzzles that you can find if you look around the map.

Endgame .. mhhh well, a lot have been said about the WvWvW of GW2, it have it's fun moments, and can make you pass time, but mind, zerging it is used even if arenanet is trying to expand on PvP and make it less.. zergish, if it will suceed only time will tell.

 

I hope this can be useful to you for your choice.

Best description of each game I've seen so far. Each game has it's own style and flavour. Some people may like one, but not the other, but some will like all 3.  

  arunasme

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Joined: 11/15/06
Posts: 94

2/17/14 6:25:18 AM#28
None, all 3 are a bunch of same old sh!t, waiting on the next big titles.
  Scalpless

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Joined: 3/22/07
Posts: 1272

2/17/14 6:27:38 AM#29

Keep in mind that you're comparing a game that's been out for over a year to games that aren't out yet. A few months post-release, both ESO and WS will surely get their share of "max level in 2 min, endgame sux, I quit" posts no matter how good they are.

For now, I'd recommend GW2, because you'll what it's like and there'll be no pre-release hype clouding your vision.

  sleeping1252

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Joined: 12/02/13
Posts: 13

2/17/14 6:39:15 AM#30
Originally posted by kairel182

I personally never regretted a game purchase more than GW2.  Even games that were utter flops, such as FFXIV 1.0 that broken and incomplete I still played for over a month.  GW2, I think I played for maybe one night before uninstalling it.

If you're interested in GW2 , though, I'd recommend just waiting for ESO as it's focus is large scale RvR as well.

If you're more into solo or small group content and PvE, I'd suggest going with Wildstar.

 

However, keep in mind that this is pure speculation as neither games are released and solely based off what little information we have.

If you're interested in small group content PvE, and even PvP, go with GW2.... running dungeons with people who know what they are doing in GW2 is crazy amounts of fun.

I would also get Wildstar because it's a new game, and being part of the launch process and being one of the first groups of people to explore the game is always worth it, if you enjoy the game at least a little bit.

  aesperus

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Joined: 1/04/05
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2/17/14 6:43:48 AM#31
Originally posted by gxizhe

Since EQN wouldn't be out until maybe 2015, I need another game to kill time

I have come down to these three games because I tried most of the popular free MMOs and they all suck in one way or another

For P2P MMOs EVE is too hard for new players and WOW I just think it's too late to start

So please give me some suggestions

Really depends on the type of gamer you are. And you'll need to be honest about this if you want to make a good decision.

GW2: Is primarily for players who don't adhere to MMO conventions / like to explore. It's a game that doesn't focus on gear treadmills, trinities, or heavily gated content. Instead it's built around letting players decide how they want to play. The problem with this, is most people don't fully grasp what that actually means. It means a lack of defined structure. Players have to take it upon themselves to find their own fun a lot of the time. Because of this, you'll find a lot of gamers who don't like it. Claim it 'lacks content', or 'has no endgame'. Neither of these are true, but if you are expecting a game to offer an experience similar to WoW, this is definitely NOT that game.

It's also important to note that the game is older, and has been out for over a year now. This may not matter to you, but to some it's pretty important. It's also a good game to pick up if you want something you can freely jump in & out of in between games. It's completely free after you buy the game. So no subscriptions, and the game doesn't force a cash shop on you either.

ESO: Is a game that shares a lot in common w/ GW, but also has many elements familiar to DAoC vets. What this means is a game that caters to those who enjoy heavy customization, within a dark & gritty fantasy environment. If you enjoyed the elder scrolls games, but also enjoy MMOs, this is definitely worth looking at.

The important thing to keep in mind, though, is that a big part of this game's 'endgame' is the large-scale PvP. If you don't like large battles, or map-wide tactics, this isn't for you. If you find you often complain about 'zergs', prefer dueling, or hate pvp, this game might not hold your interest for very long. The PvE content does start slow, but gets better the further into the game you get. However, it's tough to say how much it will hold people at max level. All signs point to this game primarily being for those who enjoy the AvA.

WildStar: This game is primarily for those who enjoy the conventional MMO. And, while I know this is taboo, this primarily means the 'WoW' crowd. I'm not going to say the game is a clone, because it's not, but it does very much cater to that mindset. It has some form of customization (not unlike Guild Wars), however I found it to be fairly shallow (you can look into how Amps work online). It has rigid classes, a clear trinity, and solid loot progression. It's PvP also primarily involves staring at flashing shapes instead of people's characters, which is personally not for me. However some people seem to like it.

That said, Wildstar is a good game for those who enjoy PvE primarily. And want to focus on endgame raiding, and loot treadmills over everything else. If you like large-group raids, grinding dungeons every week for loot drops, housing, or just want a casual / light-hearted & fun game; WildStar is definitely a good choice.

So far every game has it's merits, and none of them are bad games. They just cater to very different sorts of players. Figure out which one you are, and make your choice based on that.

  Pilnkplonk

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2/17/14 7:34:00 AM#32
Originally posted by gxizhe
Originally posted by GuyClinch

All 3. That's my serious suggestion. GW2 is awesome for playing in between all MMOs. ESO has some cool features that might keep you occupied for a while - and Wildstar looks fun. Now I don't think you have to play them at the same time but if you like MMOs you are going to have a lot of time to kill before EQ:N shows up. Assuming that EQ:N is a good game - which is a huge assumption. Go play planetside 2 to see the future of EQ:N.. (I am not saying its all bad either).

Too many people wait for the next big thing and then end up so disappointed when it doesn't arrive. The good news is that most games have some fun in them if you give them a shot. Despite what this forum will have you believe most MMOS are not 'crap' and have very good entertainment value. What they do not have is limitless entertainment value..

I tried PS2, it is a good game, but it is sorta p2w and it is just way to chaotic with so many players in one single small area(though not as bad as operation locker in bf4)

I'm confused here... PS2 is not pay to win in any shape or form. It's pretty much as far from p2w as you can get in a free game and it takes you a week or two at most to max up any class ar standard xp rates. It's like saying TF2 is pay to win (you know that a funny hat can disable your opponent with laughter for that split second...) Also, what "small area"?! It's got three humongous playing areas, the biggest in online shooters at the moment, I believe. Some would say the areas are way too big rather than too small. As for chaos.. well that's war innit? Especially if you're doing it solo and not in some well organized outfit. Are you sure we're talking about the same game?

So anyway, the 2 online games I play atm while I wait for EQL/N are PS2 and GW2. One is for my non-stop-action shooting addiction with a fair bit of strategy and persistence thrown in and the other is for my classical RPG needs. I really don't think you can go any better in current MMO space at the moment.

  kilun

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2/17/14 7:38:51 AM#33
Originally posted by arunasme
None, all 3 are a bunch of same old sh!t, waiting on the next big titles.

And what big titles are these might I ask?  You'll spend your whole life waiting for the next big thing.  Then when it "hits" it won't be your cup of tea, so you'll be like man.  I guess I'll wait some more.

To the OP, I'd say ESO.  It is released in just about 6 weeks and will be fresh.  Avoid gaming site, boards, etc.  Play the game and not know what to do and when to do it.  You'll add weeks to months of fun by doing it that way.

 

  Vapors

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2/17/14 7:41:17 AM#34
Originally posted by maple2

Gw2 Got nearly no Endgame content, but plenty of other content,

ESO looks like crap and the handling and combat is weak and stupid.

 

Wildstar is the next big mmo, with its 20,40 man raids, hardcore content, tons of endgame content, extremly deep crafting system

seems like you played all 3 games already for a year

  BadSpock

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2/17/14 7:48:11 AM#35

GW2 is the best deal.

The modern MMO gamer is only going to play for a month or two, so why pay full box price + a sub?

GW2 you can at least come back to for PvP, new events, etc. for no additional cost.

You can get it for USD 30-40 online in some places.

Now Playing: D3:RoS, Watch Dogs
Looking Towards: Destiny

  Fusion

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2/17/14 7:49:12 AM#36
Originally posted by elvenwolf

Hello,

Mostly depend on your tastes.

I tried both ESO and Wildstar, and did play GW2 to level 80.

 

If you like Fantasy, ESO is a good pick, it does have a slow start, but pick up later,  the experience is paced more slowly then an usual MMORPG, there is  a good chunk of exploration, and the landscape can be gorgeous , it does have a good crafting system, and the stories you will meet in them are meaningful.

The way to develope your character is very Elder scrollish, you can mix and match things , and end up with something you like , the starting class have it's weight, but is heavily influenced also in how you decide to develope it.

The main focus at endgame mostly is the three sides PVP, if you like that kind of game, is not a bad pick.

 

Wildstar is a more "Conventional" MMO, but mind it does have it's innovations, I can't go too much in details because NDA, but I didn't feel at all I was playing WoW in space, It does have it's character and it's personality. There is a lot to explore too, and if you like a bit of cartony graphic, it is gorgeous in it's own way, with grass moved by the wind,  ambient sounds... It does take a moment to get used to it's style but if you can do it is rewarding.

The class system is not as open as ESO, you have defined roles, but, without being able to tell too much, you have ways to personalize your style and your own way to play your class(es)

Wildstar is a bit more about PVE, even if it does have it's own PvP and can be fun and frenetic, is not the three side long campaign type of PvP of ESO, but is not less fun. A big focus will be the 20 and 40 man raids if you want the top notch gear.

 

GW2 have a lot to do too, it's combat can be frenetic, but mind if you love the trinity, is not for you,  one have to think a bit out of the box when playing GW2, the classes can be very fun, and if you can get into it's way of "non trinity" dungeons can be fun too. 

Zones are not extremily huge, but are large enough to be interesting, of the three , even with underwater exploring, i might say that personally find is the one that offer less as exploration; But hae a surprise or two in the ways of jumping puzzles that you can find if you look around the map.

Endgame .. mhhh well, a lot have been said about the WvWvW of GW2, it have it's fun moments, and can make you pass time, but mind, zerging it is used even if arenanet is trying to expand on PvP and make it less.. zergish, if it will suceed only time will tell.

 

I hope this can be useful to you for your choice.

 

Nicely put without bashing and fanboying!

 

I personally enjoyed the GW2 1-80 journey, but then it "died".

ESO i enjoyed aswell for the 3 days i got to try it. (and have pre-ordered).

Wildstar i did not enjoy (felt like "i've seen this before too many times")

 

For OP:

Guild Wars 2 will probably not last you a long time, but it'll be good fun for the leveling curve (if you want to invest for a month or so of fun), action combat with not a ton of active skills, dodging.

ESO is launching in a month and a half and we've no proper knowledge how long it'll "last" for a player, is also Fantasy. action combat with not a ton of active skills, dodging.

Wildstar has no launch date and we have no proper knowledge of the "lasting" part here either, is a mix of Sci-fi and fantasy (how i see it). action combat with not a ton of active skills, dodging.

 

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  Nephelai

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2/17/14 7:54:50 AM#37
Originally posted by Voiidiin
Originally posted by Kevyne-Shandris

 

If you're a more advanced gamer, bookmark this site for the many addons:

http://www.curse.com/addons/wow

 

Essential addons for everyone (game revolves around them, don't be a n00b and show up without them!):

 

Deadly Boss Mods (PvE; DBM-PvP for PvP) <-- Raider prime addon.

Recount or Skada (PvE+PvP) <-- DPS prime ePeen tools.


Essential addon for healers (as raid frame healing sucks) a choice of either:

 

Vuhdo (works almost out of the box, and acts like a party monitor [does more than healing] -- good for any class).

Healbot (the standard).

Grid+Grid Healing addon (for control freaks).

 

Style addons folks usually install as the default UI is so limited:

Bartender

Dominos

Really advanced gamers will configure Pitbull4 with Bartender or Dominos and use Grid and Move Anything to completely customize their UI.

Because of all this and the mentality that your a crappy gamer because you do not want 3rd party garbage in your game or on your computer, i quit WoW. that was the driving force to make me leave that game. I have zero intention of ever playing it again because the last time i "tried" to play it i was accosted by small minded players who insisted that i was worthless without addons.

In all seriousness you probably aren't a good player.  A good player driven by performance will install an addon that makes them even better. Average players make some excuse like installing an addon is installing some kind of virus or bloat ware rather than accept their ability.  Surprised you didn't bring up you don't like vent as well and it's not fair that ppl won't take you on heroic raids. 

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2/17/14 7:57:04 AM#38
Originally posted by Agent_Joseph
Originally posted by gxizhe

Since EQN wouldn't be out until maybe 2015, I need another game to kill time

I have come down to these three games because I tried most of the popular free MMOs and they all suck in one way or another

For P2P MMOs EVE is too hard for new players and WOW I just think it's too late to start

So please give me some suggestions

it is not true ! Eve is easy game , it is different but not complicated.

C'mon quit trying to misrepresent EVE just because you don't like it, it is arguably the most complicated MMORPG ever created.

How many MMORPG's have a comprehensive guide (volumes 1, 2 & 3) published not to do walk-throughs, but just to explain the mechanics of the game?

http://www.isktheguide.com/

There are dozens (if not hundreds) more including multiple wiki's on every subject from wormhole life, incursion running, industry, mining, marketing and many more subjects.

Or require a plethora of tools such as EVEMon, Battleclinics Ship Fitter, etc to properly fit out a ship and skill train your character?

Or have corporations track each individual PVP kill on in-depth kill boards which are analysed and used as intel tools in future wars?

And while this is a bit incomplete now, it pretty well sums up the breadth of EVE and I defy anyone to explain everything that goes on in this game.

http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/eve-wtd.jpg

I would challenge the assertion that is too hard for new players, or anyone else for that matter.  It requires much patience, a willingness to study and learn how the game works, and previous MMO experience might be more of a handicap in that it defies standard convention so much it might not be the sort of game they are looking for.

 

 

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  gxizhe

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OP  2/17/14 10:33:06 AM#39
Originally posted by Agent_Joseph
Originally posted by gxizhe

Since EQN wouldn't be out until maybe 2015, I need another game to kill time

I have come down to these three games because I tried most of the popular free MMOs and they all suck in one way or another

For P2P MMOs EVE is too hard for new players and WOW I just think it's too late to start

So please give me some suggestions

it is not true ! Eve is easy game , it is different but not complicated.

Well if you are a totally new player it will take you about at least a few months or so to get started

  Shadanwolf

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2/17/14 10:38:38 AM#40
Originally posted by gxizhe

Since EQN wouldn't be out until maybe 2015, I need another game to kill time

I have come down to these three games because I tried most of the popular free MMOs and they all suck in one way or another

For P2P MMOs EVE is too hard for new players and WOW I just think it's too late to start

So please give me some suggestions

If you like faction vs faction conflict  .....I would suggest the answer is easy.......ESO.

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