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General Discussion  » Well looks like Wildstar is THE last hope.

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  ImperialSun

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2/14/14 7:39:19 AM#121

Whilst I was intially put off by WS I have spent a lot of time researching and I have to give it props....

 

Everything I have seen and read has definitely turned my initial opinion on it's head. Yes the graphics are cartoony and that DID put me off at first. But like all games, once you have been starign at them for a few hours, the graphics just become the graphics and I personally find I just "get used" to them.

 

I also really like the attitude that WS exudes, it does NOT take itself too seriously, seems to have a sort of rockstar attitude about most things it sets out to do and the game actually has some very adult themes woven in to it.

 

I too was initially put off by the telegraph system although this seems to be much less of a crutch as the game progresses, some of those raid videos actually look like chaotically good fun :)

 

As a gamer I am usually firmly entrenched in the "sandbox is best" school of thought however I am genuinely going to give WS a go with an open mind whilst I am awaiting more concrete news on The Repop and Black Desert.

 

As to the last hope for the genre, IMO what the world really needs is a Dark Souls MMORPG :O A sandbox MMORPG based on an adult,  gritty, deep and complex lore system with the Dark Souls combat system....

 

Driz

 

  bingbongbros

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2/14/14 7:47:41 AM#122
Originally posted by squalleonaha

WOW cartoon style + sub $15 a month, 

i would not let my hope on it much.

also its no longer time that we stick on 1 MMO for 5-7 years anymore. maybe we should just buy the mmo we like and play for the free month and begone with it.

I think the games you are looking for are called Single player games.  Those you can spend money on and then promptly abandon after a month.

Playing: Smite
Played: Nexus:Kingdom of the Winds, Everquest, DAoC, Everquest 2, WoW, Matrix Online, Vangaurd, SWG, DDO, EVE, Fallen Earth, LoTRo, CoX, Champions Online, WAR, Darkfall, Mortal Online, Guild Wars, Rift, Tera, Aion, AoC, Gods and Heroes, DCUO, FF14, TSW, SWTOR, GW2, Wildstar, ESO
Waiting On: Nothing really, though Black Desert looks pretty amazing so far.

  Mackaveli44

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2/14/14 7:52:31 AM#123
Originally posted by bingbongbros
Originally posted by squalleonaha

WOW cartoon style + sub $15 a month, 

i would not let my hope on it much.

also its no longer time that we stick on 1 MMO for 5-7 years anymore. maybe we should just buy the mmo we like and play for the free month and begone with it.

I think the games you are looking for are called Single player games.  Those you can spend money on and then promptly abandon after a month.

Its actually true though.  Theres no longer MMO's out where you stick with it for years.  Most if not all players nowadays abandoned a game for a short time playing it and move onto something else.  That means games are not all that great quality and quantity wise anymore.  Its a shame.  The last game to truly grasp me for years was DAoC and Everquest

  Ender4

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2/14/14 7:54:09 AM#124

Neither WildStar or ESO ever looked like good games, they are filler games while you wait for something good to come out. They are hoping the core players sub for a couple months so they can make their money but I don't think either game is going to thrive long term.

  Mackaveli44

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2/14/14 8:43:59 AM#125
Originally posted by Ender4

Neither WildStar or ESO ever looked like good games, they are filler games while you wait for something good to come out. They are hoping the core players sub for a couple months so they can make their money but I don't think either game is going to thrive long term.

Not sure about that one.  I cant say much about WIldstar because I loathe how lame and pathetic and childish it looks but ESO on the other hand happens to have more content in it then most, if not all mmos to come out in years at the start.  So, thats promising.

  kabitoshin

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2/14/14 8:46:06 AM#126
Last hope for what a hardcore PvE game?
  Ezhae

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2/14/14 8:51:49 AM#127
Originally posted by winter
Originally posted by Rockniss
I was on the fence with Wildstar and ESO, but with ESO not looking like something I want to invest in, I am turning to Wildstar. I have been watching a lot of video of the early game. I can't help but compare to ESO and well, Wildstar just looks more like an mmorpg and furthermore it looks like it could actually be better than WoW. Anyone else a little disappointed with ESO and now turning more attention to Wildstar?

 Meh looks like ESO is still our last hope forced 40 man raids in Wildstar put me off hardcore raiders of course will love it. To all their own I'll take deep and interesting story and quests over standing around waiting 40 a 40 man raid to form up.

While not really on the market for either of the games, it's quite opposite for me. Story in MMOs is largely irrelevant for me since it's a one time thing you go through and are done with (like in SWTOR). If i want story i play singleplayer or a a fun co op title. MMOs i expect to be my time killers and large scale group content fits that bill perfectly. Also standing around waiting forever is not really a thing if you have well organised guild. 

Im at the point where i won't mind ot grind mindlessly for shiny. Most recent MMOs however prefer to hand shinies equally to everyone that finishes some story quest chain, making the shiny feel less special and, well, shiny. I miss the times when killing heaps of mobs in the so called open world actually had a chance of giving you something worthwhile.

  smokeybha

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2/14/14 9:17:19 AM#128
Originally posted by Laughing-man
Originally posted by Thane

well, it might look like this, unless you actually wait for EQN or WH40k (which i do).

wildstar... naaa.... too many telegraphs ("pls dont stand in the ae. i will mark it red for you!"... whatever)

Hate to break it to ya, every game has telegraphed red attacks now.

EVERY GAME.

Yeah, except wildstar went a step further and gave green heal AoE too? Wtf, handhold much?

  Azzras

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One Shot, Two Kills.

2/14/14 12:48:23 PM#129
Originally posted by kotz

Starcitizen

Pathfinder

The Repopulation

Ever quest next

Black desert

 

And many more are games using the concept SANBOX . AND wildstar is not one of them, nothing new there. Neext! Old concept!

Also it seems like the games coming out in the near future will all have the SANDBOX concept within the game...

I think we are witnessing the death of linear gaming =)  but there are still alot of games that started out with that concept and dont have the money to change it into SANBOX.  So those kind of games will still popup for a year or two and die fast.... THEN no more linear games! I hope :p

If you like mmos then SANBOX is like heroin to a drug adict =)

 

I'm a huge fan of Star Citizen, but acting like sandbox is new?  Sandbox is just as old and can get just as stale.

  Azzras

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One Shot, Two Kills.

2/14/14 1:03:37 PM#130
Originally posted by Rockniss
Originally posted by Punk999

 If you go into wildstar with the mindset of it will be alot like WoW with a different combat system... You will not be disappointed.

Do not assume of anything crazy different from the typical quest hub mmo.

 

Bring a raid boss into Warplots pvp and unleash it on your foe is different. Build up your " let's call it a Garrison " in warplots is different. It's not all about quest hubs, the combat is different from an mmorpg perspective as well. You actually have to move and aim your skills. I guess quest hubs don't bother me, every game has them one way or another some just choose to display them differently.

I remember being able to kite World Bosses into Stormwind.

WoW is adding player housing in next x-pac.  Who knows, maybe even some kind of keep system...tbd there

Not knocking Wildstar.  I'm interested in it, but let's be real...one of it's big selling points is WoW devs....

The game will be a LOT like WoW.

  Herase

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2/14/14 2:33:10 PM#131
Originally posted by smokeybha
Originally posted by Laughing-man
Originally posted by Thane

well, it might look like this, unless you actually wait for EQN or WH40k (which i do).

wildstar... naaa.... too many telegraphs ("pls dont stand in the ae. i will mark it red for you!"... whatever)

Hate to break it to ya, every game has telegraphed red attacks now.

EVERY GAME.

Yeah, except wildstar went a step further and gave green heal AoE too? Wtf, handhold much?

You do realise this is an action combat based game and not tab targeting? the reason you don't see a lot of dmg telegraphs in other games is most attacks  can't be dodged, there unavoidable, so you have all these abilities which reduce the in coming amount of damage. this also is the same for healing, the heals auto hit, i click a player and he gets healed. There is probably only about 1-2 aoe placed heals in Wow because all of them auto hit their target. 

 

The reason for the telegraphs is simple. All attacks can be dodged in this game, because all heals can be missed. So if you get hit by the boss and your at 10% hp, you may or may not get healed straight away. Like i said before you don't click a target and his/she is healed. I have to place my heal down in a certian location first, but that doesn't  mean the heal will hit. The boss could start doing a series of attacks that have players running all over the place, rending that placed heal useless, this scenario will be happening constantly in this game due to it being an action combat based. So you  could find yourself running around at times with hardly any hp for quite a while, praying you don't get whacked by an attack. Now see why the dmg telegraphs are important? So saying that, the healer could then place a heal down, while you're dodging and maneuvering you can spot this and move into the heal.

Again you won't be standing around in this game, you will be on the move a lot. The telegraphs will save you, because there is a massive risk if you get whomped by a mob/boss, you could be running around with 10% for quite a while.

 

Hope that make sense now :)

 

 

 

  JudgeUK

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2/14/14 6:12:49 PM#132

OP - Having experienced the beta so far, if you're looking at this game as your last hope (by the way, who's "our"? - everyone? you and your flatmate? ) - anyway, if you are, you may just have run completely out of hope.

nda blankets the rest for now.

  

  Annekynn

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"In lag, no one can hear you scream"

2/14/14 8:22:39 PM#133


Originally posted by JudgeUK
OP - Having experienced the beta so far, if you're looking at this game as your last hope (by the way, who's "our"? - everyone? you and your flatmate? ) - anyway, if you are, you may just have run completely out of hope.

nda blankets the rest for now.

  


Well ill happily be your opposite then as I just tried the beta and its PERFECT. The anti-TESO.

  Tierless

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joie de vivre

2/14/14 8:33:32 PM#134

there is another...

mmorpg.com/blogs/Xobdnas

  Heavy-armor-warrior

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Hey is for horses and so is grass. So pucker up and kiss my...well nvm

2/14/14 9:18:58 PM#135
Originally posted by Annekynn

 


Originally posted by JudgeUK
OP - Having experienced the beta so far, if you're looking at this game as your last hope (by the way, who's "our"? - everyone? you and your flatmate? ) - anyway, if you are, you may just have run completely out of hope.

 

nda blankets the rest for now.

  


 

Well ill happily be your opposite then as I just tried the beta and its PERFECT. The anti-TESO.

The anti-teso?

 

Must be horrid.

  fantasyfreak112

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2/14/14 9:29:57 PM#136
Have no fear everyone, our last hope for yet another WoW clone draws nigh.
  inemosz

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2/14/14 9:32:06 PM#137

I've tried the beta. It's nothing like "last hope" or some short.

We can't compare ESO with Wildstar, they're targetted for completely different audience.

  Annekynn

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"In lag, no one can hear you scream"

2/14/14 9:38:19 PM#138


Originally posted by fantasyfreak112
Have no fear everyone, our last hope for yet another WoW clone draws nigh.

You mean another mmorpg? Yep, youre at the right place then

  Draemos

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2/15/14 3:52:58 AM#139
Originally posted by Rockniss
I was on the fence with Wildstar and ESO, but with ESO not looking like something I want to invest in, I am turning to Wildstar. I have been watching a lot of video of the early game. I can't help but compare to ESO and well, Wildstar just looks more like an mmorpg and furthermore it looks like it could actually be better than WoW. Anyone else a little disappointed with ESO and now turning more attention to Wildstar?

Nope, not really.  I was more interested in Wildstar and now that I've played both I highly prefer ESO.  Wildstar has two things going for it... Combat and housing.  

 

I think they target two different audiences.  If your the kind of person that likes small scale twitchy competitive combat and doesn't give two shits about storyline... Wildstar is great.  If your the kind of person who loves an immersive world with great crafting and high quality mature story lines... And large scale world PvP, ESO is looking pretty awesome.

  davc123

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2/15/14 4:10:32 AM#140
i tryed both ESO and WS but  WS is better for me
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