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  Siug

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1/27/14 12:40:18 PM#41
Originally posted by travamars
Originally posted by Wiha
Originally posted by Malvious
well to bad they got the licence recently renewed until 2017.

Bad. I'd like to play a true Lord of the Rings game true to Tolkien's legacy. Lotro was even OK for a while but went right downhill after Moria imo.

That made me laugh...

True to tolkien's legacy??? Have you even read the books? Or did you just watch the movies?

If it were true to tolkiens books instead of fighting and killing monsters people would just stand around in groups and sing silly songs until they reached end game, then they would get to fight for a lvl or 2. It would apeal to 12 year olds an younger, like the books were intended for, but i doubt anyone over 16 would want to play.

Yes I read the books. Like about 20 years ago for the first time. And I still think that Post-Moria Lotro has very vague resemblance to Lord of the Rings title in every form. Middle Earth Online instead of Lotro would have been times better game.

  Nadia

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1/27/14 12:49:20 PM#42
Originally posted by Torvaldr

Most every major game company has continually improved their payment systems except Turbine. Just my opinion of course.

i share the same opinion - Turbine has not improved their ftp restrictions in years

  syriinx

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1/27/14 1:17:56 PM#43
Originally posted by Nadia
Originally posted by Torvaldr

Most every major game company has continually improved their payment systems except Turbine. Just my opinion of course.

i share the same opinion - Turbine has not improved their ftp restrictions in years

I was in the minority, but I thought SoEs original F2P for EQ2 was better than LOTRO, because content is king and EQ2 opened most of its content and the gear/spell restrictions didnt matter until endgame.  People argued 'but LOTRO is completely free since you can grind TP", but grinding TP is extremely tedious and time consuming and not remotely fun.

 

Over the last few years SoE has removed most of their restrictions, and Turbine only creeps further and further into pay 2 win territory.  their model was garbage when it started and its only become worse over time while everyone else's has gotten better.

 

But the biggest blunder by turbine is subbing doesnt get you everything.  XP lockers are 6 bucks *per character*, thats just ridiculous.  And of course the stat tomes.  And when I play EQ2 I am only reminded of the cash shop when I log in.  LOTRO i am constantly reminded of it.

  Nephaerius

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1/27/14 1:57:00 PM#44
Originally posted by Onsaboo
  • Right now there's spam threads and porn on the official boards which have been there for ages.
  • The last expansion was buggy as shit and STILL remains unfinished.
  • There is huge amounts of lag for many players which Turbine refuses to even acknowledge.
  • Turbine are consistently lying to its playerbase.
  • Turbine refuse to make any more group content and is bleeding players because of it; their replacement for end-game content, big battles, are shockingly bad.
It's time to give this beloved IP to another developer to salvage something from it. Turbine used to be an excellent dev but I no longer recognise this company.

 Well they're certainly not suffering financially for it.  Just talked to their VP of product design.....

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  Po_gg

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1/27/14 5:05:52 PM#45

While I'm still not quite happy with HD changes (though 12.2 at least eased and repaired some of the "over-easy" issues), nor like the latest Store additions, however I think the game and the community is still great.

 

"LotRO is in trouble" says the title. I hope Whiteberry won't mind if I answer that with one of her pics:

http://toarda.com/t/wp-content/gallery/comics/loahsp003.jpg

:)

  GetzMango

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I am a sexy shoeless god of war!

1/28/14 10:45:35 AM#46
Not in trouble, it's actually doing quite well in my opinion. Been playing off and on since launch, still enjoying it, still having fun. OP, I'm sorry you were unable to find a home here. Best of luck in your search.

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  kevjards

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1/28/14 10:59:15 AM#47

somehow I think the OP is exaggerating a little.they never said they were not doing group content.they stated they were going to do big battles I,e helms deep etc because it fits in with the story.has for the forums I cant commentate on that.Lag ,well every online game has lag but this game suffers no more no less than any other game.

In saying that though this game could have been so much more than it is.pvp severly lacking.combat was rather poor but improved has of late.but this game will see it through til 2017.still a great game to play imo.

  ninjagranny

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1/28/14 1:04:20 PM#48

I have played this since beta i Have two founder and 1 lifetime accounts and have bought collectors or legendary editions of every expansion up to Helm's Deep .  I have 40 toons 10 or so at 85 ( 85 is pre HD cap)

That's just for info 

We loved this game and would have still been playing it apart from what they did to it with the Helms Deep expansion , an expansion we had been looking forward to for years ( its such an iconic period of LOTR) .

I don't mind Big battles but I can understand why hardcore raiders don't like them as they aren't exclusive and can't be learned pixel by pixel .

LOTRO had the only really original character setup and progression there were literally hundreds of thousands of possible combinations and these could be changed quite easily using normal in game cash .

Then the dreaded skill trees arrived and everyone I have played with since the game started has stopped playing - kins are dead , raid channels are dead . The skill trees turned an expansive game into the same 3 button mashing of the other easy kids games .

Great pity , its an old engine but it worked and the graphics are fun but old , what this game had going for it was the style and the ip - now it just as the ip .

The OP is correct  and its such a shame - they changed too much too quickly and changed the wrong things . Note I still count as 3 active accounts as they never expire BUT I don't play so take any "official" subscribers figures with a sack of salt . My primary server used to have a healthy 1200 at most times recently its been just over 50 . My wife has 2 accounts and also counts my kin has 40 + accounts between them and they count - none of them play since HD .

 

  Horusra

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Joined: 6/26/05
Posts: 2388

2/04/14 10:08:04 PM#49
personally like the changes with the skill trees.  Combat is better now for me.  My issue with the game is the fact that is it pretty much single player with end game multi options.  You want to run an instance...good luck it is either a kin run through which frankly are not fun or you sit in que for hours and days.  At low levels there is nothing in the game that really feels MMO.  Skirms are few and far between now for a group bigger than 2 even.
  SuperNick

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Joined: 4/10/07
Posts: 461

2/04/14 10:11:57 PM#50

It's in trouble? Really?

Speculation is great, but stating it as fact is not.

The game is enjoying (compared with previous years) record player numbers, record profits and is going to focus the entire year of 2014 on revamping old content. This means all those old dungeons that newer players didn't get to enjoy will be returning.

Please try to clarify next time hey, "I think this game is in trouble".

  mxmissile

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Joined: 12/13/05
Posts: 269

2/12/14 6:34:28 PM#51
Originally posted by SuperNick

It's in trouble? Really?

Speculation is great, but stating it as fact is not.

Please try to clarify next time hey, "I think this game is in trouble".

In trouble for sure, clarifying for the OP:

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/loadNews/30042/Turbine-Enters-Another-Round-of-LayOffs

 

  BMBender

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Posts: 559

2/12/14 11:15:15 PM#52

Haven't played in over a year so can't say what it's like now.  But I got curi0ous and wandered over to my old stomping grounds and saw this:

https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?534986-Guardian-soloing-many-3man-T2c-6man-videos-and-more-)
tells me all I need to know

  Onsaboo

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OP  2/13/14 7:33:57 PM#53

Am truly gutted about some of the LOTRO staff who've been laid off.

But, for anyone who doesn't live in some crazy fantasy land this should be NO surprise.  The game had so few devs working on it already and even THEY have been culled. We're gonna be lucky to make it to Gondor never mind Mordor.

  Octagon7711

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Joined: 1/13/12
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Devs please nerf paper it's overpowered I'm rock which is fine scissors are fine.

2/13/14 7:47:56 PM#54
Originally posted by killion81
Originally posted by Sovrath

I doubt another developer would make another Lord of the Rings mmo.

 

Not because they wouldn't want to, but rather Disney will NEVER let go of those rights.  Of all companies in existence, Disney has done more lobbying to extend patent duration and coverage than any other.  (OK, I may be wrong on that, maybe some other company has done more, but Disney has done a LOT.)  In fact, Disney is one of the companies spearheading the charge for everyone's favorite internet regulation changes, stuff like SOPA and everything that has spawned off of it.

Heard the same thing.  Otherwise their licenses for Mickey and others would have run out a long long time ago.  They keep getting the laws extended or put on hold by congress.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/10/25/15-years-ago-congress-kept-mickey-mouse-out-of-the-public-domain-will-they-do-it-again/

  tagos

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Posts: 12

2/21/14 5:38:50 AM#55

LOTRO was my first MMO. Spent huge amounts on content and TP.  Helms Deep and the Skill Tree system makes it one that a kitten walking over the keyboard can solo tank 6 man instances.  Completely challenge free. Completely the same phoned in 'kill 10 of this, gather 10 of that' nonsense quests. 

Stroll to L95 with the same 3 button rotation every other member of your class is using. Sure - that's fun.

Big Battles? Can't play your class? Give me a break.

I've gone from a well-paying customer to ex-paying customer. 

 

 

  Lydon

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Posts: 2923

2/21/14 5:48:03 AM#56
I downloaded it early this week after having not played in years, but alas the game's age is truly showing. I couldn't bring myself to finish the tutorial mission.

  GetzMango

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I am a sexy shoeless god of war!

2/21/14 10:15:35 AM#57
This thread make me sad, stop making me sad!

Every MMORPG is AWESOME, until it's released!
I don't want a game so much as I want a WORLD!
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  tagos

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2/21/14 10:26:38 AM#58
Originally posted by GetzMango
This thread make me sad, stop making me sad!

I stop myself being sad about the demise of a game I've played since exception by contemplating how much fun Elder Scrolls Online is going to be.  I played in the 2 beta weekends and am really looking forward to playing it for many years.

  GetzMango

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I am a sexy shoeless god of war!

2/21/14 10:55:05 AM#59
Originally posted by tagos
Originally posted by GetzMango
This thread make me sad, stop making me sad!

I stop myself being sad about the demise of a game I've played since exception by contemplating how much fun Elder Scrolls Online is going to be.  I played in the 2 beta weekends and am really looking forward to playing it for many years.

I'm not ready to put all my MMO eggs into the ESO basket just yet. I'm not convinced t is the game I'm looking for.

Every MMORPG is AWESOME, until it's released!
I don't want a game so much as I want a WORLD!
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2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.

  Khebeln

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2/21/14 10:57:13 AM#60
Originally posted by Onsaboo
  • Right now there's spam threads and porn on the official boards which have been there for ages.
  • The last expansion was buggy as shit and STILL remains unfinished.
  • There is huge amounts of lag for many players which Turbine refuses to even acknowledge.
  • Turbine are consistently lying to its playerbase.
  • Turbine refuse to make any more group content and is bleeding players because of it; their replacement for end-game content, big battles, are shockingly bad.
It's time to give this beloved IP to another developer to salvage something from it. Turbine used to be an excellent dev but I no longer recognise this company.

Surprise surprise.... not really.  Thats what you get once game goes F2P. And people wonder why i prefer P2P


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