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  SBFord

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OP  2/11/14 9:22:14 AM#1

According to a recent Twitter thread, Sony Online Entertainment's John Smedley has called the governor of Rhode Island an "idiot" for comments he made last December when he called 38 Studios' Project Copernicus "a lot of junk". The comments were made after the state failed to sell the IP during an auction as part of an effort to recoup $75 million dollars in public funds that was loaned to 38 Studios.

Smedley went on to make further comments:

You can read the entire thread on John Smedley's Twitter page.

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  Heretique

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2/11/14 9:25:27 AM#2
Could of possibly been something great. Will never know.

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  DwarfZZZ

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2/11/14 9:47:02 AM#3
Well, they could have bought it (SOE) on the public auction, couldn't they?

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2/11/14 9:48:52 AM#4
Just a sad story for Curt. Prayers.
  Tierless

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2/11/14 9:50:07 AM#5

Should he have bad mouthed it? Probably not. But based on the insider article I read by the guy that worked their the place was a mess.

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  GregorMcgregor

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2/11/14 9:50:38 AM#6
Originally posted by DwarfZZZ
Well, they could have bought it (SOE) on the public auction, couldn't they?

This! If Smed thought it was so great why is it not a SoE game as we speak? (or type).

Why? Cus he's full of it. /end

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2/11/14 9:53:00 AM#7
Governor: Smedley,your company's handling and implentation of the new game experience in star wars galaxies is by far a worse thing than any I have done.

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  jdnewell

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2/11/14 9:53:14 AM#8

I have to agree with the if it was so great why didnt SoE buy it.

 

  Muke

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2/11/14 9:54:56 AM#9
Originally posted by Tierless

Should he have bad mouthed it? Probably not. But based on the insider article I read by the guy that worked their the place was a mess.

Smedley should deliver a good game for starters before badmouthing others about doing bad business.

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2/11/14 9:58:57 AM#10
Originally posted by GregorMcgregor
Originally posted by DwarfZZZ
Well, they could have bought it (SOE) on the public auction, couldn't they?

This! If Smed thought it was so great why is it not a SoE game as we speak? (or type).

Why? Cus he's full of it. /end

Or..... Maybe....

Soe is fully invested in a couple other projects.

 

Nothing like spreading yourself out too thin, just ask Curt.

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  CrazKanuk

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2/11/14 9:59:19 AM#11
Originally posted by GregorMcgregor
Originally posted by DwarfZZZ
Well, they could have bought it (SOE) on the public auction, couldn't they?

This! If Smed thought it was so great why is it not a SoE game as we speak? (or type).

Why? Cus he's full of it. /end

He never said he didn't try. Apparently the auction ended without an "acceptable" offer, so it's entirely possible SOE put in an offer. I'd be surprised if they didn't. However, that isn't to say that it won't happen either. It's so far into development that it will likely be sold, but hopefully it will be sold before the property is stale. This just means that the people selling it need to understand that they don't have forever to sit on this. They're probably better to take what they can get. 

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2/11/14 9:59:38 AM#12
Originally posted by GregorMcgregor
Originally posted by DwarfZZZ
Well, they could have bought it (SOE) on the public auction, couldn't they?

This! If Smed thought it was so great why is it not a SoE game as we speak? (or type).

Why? Cus he's full of it. /end

I don't doubt Smed is full of it. That said if I was a game company I wouldn't want to be involved with the "state of Rhode Island" in any way, shape or form with respect to direct business transactions. Honestly, as small as that state is I wouldn't care if my games weren't allowed to be sold there either.

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  freston

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2/11/14 10:24:42 AM#13
Poor Smed.  He gets thrashed even for taking the side of the underdog. Come, on, give the guy  a break. He is right this time.
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2/11/14 10:31:22 AM#14
Originally posted by GregorMcgregor
Originally posted by DwarfZZZ
Well, they could have bought it (SOE) on the public auction, couldn't they?

This! If Smed thought it was so great why is it not a SoE game as we speak? (or type).

Why? Cus he's full of it. /end

Beyond the money they would have to pay just for the IP and assets, there would need to be a massive re-investment to bring the game to market.  You cant just go in and pick right up where the previous company left off.

 

Also we dont know how much the bids were for, only that they were "unacceptable"  I wouldnt be surprised if RI wanted like 60 million + for it.  No one is going to pay that.

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2/11/14 11:06:17 AM#15
Originally posted by CrazKanuk
Originally posted by GregorMcgregor
Originally posted by DwarfZZZ
Well, they could have bought it (SOE) on the public auction, couldn't they?

This! If Smed thought it was so great why is it not a SoE game as we speak? (or type).

Why? Cus he's full of it. /end

He never said he didn't try. Apparently the auction ended without an "acceptable" offer, so it's entirely possible SOE put in an offer. I'd be surprised if they didn't. However, that isn't to say that it won't happen either. It's so far into development that it will likely be sold, but hopefully it will be sold before the property is stale. This just means that the people selling it need to understand that they don't have forever to sit on this. They're probably better to take what they can get. 

The state of Rhode Island is apparently asking for a huge sum if they aren't taking auction cash from SOE, just saying... 

 

You have to look at it this way too though: Tax dollars were paid to make that game, which is just completely unacceptable. If I was a tax-payer in Rhode Island you can bet I'd be pissed that my money was going towards making a game... And then the game goes bust?

 

Yeah, I would certainly not be a happy taxpayer if I lived in Rhode Island.

 
 

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  BearKnight

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2/11/14 11:17:59 AM#16

Yes: Rhode Island's government were fools, both for the deal and the aftermath.

Yes: Smedley really has no room to talk here as they've bungled QUITE a many things with their own IPs, and ones they licensed in the past. 

Yes: 38 Studios was a mess in leadership, planning, and hierarchical structure.

 

Would the game have been good? The answer is "most likely not". Smedley seems to have a keen eye for BAD stuff being "Good". He said EQII's push towards a more WoW-version of EQ was "Good on paper", but the reality is that it is just an awful excuse to bastardize a product to garner more revenue. 

 

SOE are the kings of spitting on their fans by trying to cater to people whom have never tried/played one of their products before, and whom most likely never will go near SOE...for good reason.

 

If Smedley said it "looked good" then most likely it was a trainwreck waiting to happen.

 

Just my 2cents.

 
 
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2/11/14 11:31:37 AM#17
Read his comments, have to say after my subpar first impressions of him SoE live 2013 he is starting to build up some respect.
  Vonatar

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2/11/14 11:38:20 AM#18

I'm no Smed fan, but all the guy is doing here is defending the industry. Whether Copernicus would have been any good we'll never know, but the Governor is just trying to deflect from the real issue - which is why the hell was taxpayers' money used to fund a fledgling studio undertaking one of the most risky projects - an MMO.

 

Junk MMOs can earn money, good MMOs can fail. It's beside the point.

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2/11/14 12:25:16 PM#19

From the point of view of Rhode Island, the game was junk.  So was the single player game they released prior to going bankrupt.  It doesn't matter how good the game looked, it doesn't matter what Curt Schilling's intentions were and it doesn't matter what Smedley thinks of the game's quality.  The game and 38 Studios wasted seventy five million dollars of investment money on what amounts to nothing.  That sounds like junk to me.

 

Though, it is true that Rhode Island never should have invested in the company and game in the first place.

 

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For that matter, 38 Studios never should have taken the money.  They should have found investors elsewhere.

 

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  Talonsin

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2/11/14 12:28:38 PM#20
Millions of dollars of tax payer money wasted on a video game.  Its a good thing our American government officials are looking out after us.

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