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  Kamofila

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OP  2/10/14 9:41:36 AM#41
Originally posted by wazaap

You can hardly call it a review when the author has reached lvl 7 out of 50 and chooses to ignore all lore and just click away through it.

And how about things like crafting, pvp and tougher content than the noob area?

Just because you agree with what somebody writes, dosent mean that its a honest review.  I think i will wait for an actual review, thank you very much.

You mean when Zenimax opens up the entire game for review? THAT is the scary part.

Do you like lollipops? Suck it. Don't bite you greedy twit.

  LisaFlexy22

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2/10/14 9:50:19 AM#42
Originally posted by Kyleran

Isn't the most honest review always the one that you agree with the most?

That's exactly what I was thinking when I read the title.

  User Deleted
2/10/14 9:53:51 AM#43

As I said in another thread it has potential no doubt, but it needs more time to iron out those in your face bored to tears features and non features before this goes to the public. most people are content with it as it is considering all the other very boring MMO's out that had potential as well, ESO could be a great product, they just need to add more flavor and the MMO will be a hit. First impressions are everything and it starts with a great character creation system, and fall into starter zone nightmare. it's not anything else but it needs some more work and the feedback that we can't give due to the NDA

Hate to see this fail TBH I'm burnt on high fantasy, but it could be so much more with some good feedback and about 6 more months of polishing and adding details.

  inemosz

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2/10/14 10:00:04 AM#44

Another "Angry Joe" thread?

Gosh, those are just opinions..

  Katilla

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"Who needs reality....i have a good game right here..."

2/10/14 10:03:27 AM#45
Originally posted by Kamofila

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/02/07/hands-on-the-first-few-hours-of-elder-scrolls-online/#more-188471

 

rps = nail on head this time.

personally i don't agree with a word of what he said.

  Caldrin

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2/10/14 10:04:17 AM#46

that rps review/preview is 100% spot on..

I am sure some people will enjoy the game but at the end of the day its a very expensive reskin of things we have seen before..

They will not be getting my money.

My 3D models
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  Kamofila

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OP  2/10/14 10:06:01 AM#47
Originally posted by inemosz

Another "Angry Joe" thread?

Gosh, those are just opinions..

By prominent and respected reviewers of hundreds of video games.

Do you like lollipops? Suck it. Don't bite you greedy twit.

  Brabbit1987

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Posts: 645

2/10/14 10:08:32 AM#48
I agree with this article 100%. It's exactly how I felt about the game.
  Aldous.Huxley

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2/10/14 10:08:33 AM#49
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  hikaru77

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2/10/14 10:22:03 AM#50
¨Level 7¨, thats all i have to say about the review. The real game start after level 10 with the Alliance Wars.
  Brabbit1987

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2/10/14 10:26:54 AM#51
Originally posted by hikaru77
¨Level 7¨, thats all i have to say about the review. The real game start after level 10 with the Alliance Wars.

lol I love how people say the real game starts at some specific point. If the game doesn't start at level 1 .. I don't want to play it. I should be enjoying myself right at the start. Not at level 10. Not at level 15 or 20. From the very beginning.

If I am not having fun at the start, then the game is flawed, because hooking a person is an important part of keeping players.

  wazaap

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Joined: 9/25/07
Posts: 17

2/10/14 10:34:09 AM#52
Originally posted by Kamofila
Originally posted by wazaap

You can hardly call it a review when the author has reached lvl 7 out of 50 and chooses to ignore all lore and just click away through it.

And how about things like crafting, pvp and tougher content than the noob area?

Just because you agree with what somebody writes, dosent mean that its a honest review.  I think i will wait for an actual review, thank you very much.

You mean when Zenimax opens up the entire game for review? THAT is the scary part.

Yeah... That is scary!! The game might end up actually beeing an fun and enjoyable experience!! :-O

j/k. 

Back on topic. I bet he had the chance to play further than he did and try to immerse into the story.  But hey, im not the one who has to pay his salary, so it aint my headache. 

Im looking forward to an actual review and not just a preview.

And meanwhile, i guess people who want to play it can praise the decision to make it a sub based game. That should keep most of the haters away. 

  MMOredfalcon

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Joined: 9/18/13
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2/10/14 10:42:51 AM#53
Originally posted by Betaguy
Originally posted by Kamofila

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/02/07/hands-on-the-first-few-hours-of-elder-scrolls-online/#more-188471

 

rps = nail on head this time.

 Not a very truthful review and very biased, the guy hates Raiding and PVP. That automatically takes out about 50% of any decent MMO. The guy needs to quit his day job of being a journalist or learn to review properly.  He isn't cut out to review games maybe he should try another product like Kleenex or something first.

 How much raiding and PvP is in the first seven levels? So even if he dislikes that aspect of the game, it still is completely irrelevant to the review. His review was on the beginning of the game. Which is a tell tale sign of how much of the game will carry along untill you get to the PvP and raiding endgame.

 

  Gadareth

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Posts: 309

2/10/14 10:47:57 AM#54

The thing about all these reviewers they are not savants nor do they speak with any major degree of impartitality they speak on the basis of their own preferences.

It can be supposed that the people who read and follow their review share this preference and hence the reviews have meaning for them. To the majority of people they wont have any meaning as unless you agree with what metrics he uses and what goals he considers important then you won't find any use in his review.

This is true for ALL reviiewers, so listen to the ones you respect and ignore the ones that you don't.

In my case reading his review and having played through a Beta weekend I don't agree with his findings and infact many of the factors he disliked I thought good features.

So people live and let liive for the people who follow his idea of an ideal game perhaps this is not the game for them. Doesnt make his review any truer or false than anyone elses. It just shows that perhaps he would be better off in a different game.

 

 

  FlawSGI

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Posts: 1401

All of history is a lie. The truth depends on who does the listening, and who does the telling...

2/10/14 10:51:32 AM#55
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
Originally posted by Kyleran

Isn't the most honest review always the one that you agree with the most?

Well, there is not such a thing as an honest review if its based on the personal opinion of a so called Journalist

 

An honest review only states facts, figures and numbers..

But does not express emotions or personal opinions...

 

 

Clearly all these so called internet journalists never went to the jounalists school....

Except neither this guy nor Angry Joe stated it was a review. AJ called his a first impression and this article lists it as a hands on of the first few hours right there in the title. I have to say I completely agree with the article and AJ seeing as how I haven't been able make myself log in and test for this game due to uncontrollable fits of drowsiness after testing ESO for longer than ten minutes. I am not saying these aren't reviews of a sort, just that if you attack the journalists, at least attack them for things they did rather than discredit their work. The developers recognize them enough to give them the same press privileges to speak about the game without the NDA.

RIP Jimmy "The Rev" Sullivan and Paul Gray.

  doodphace

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2/10/14 10:52:52 AM#56
Originally posted by MMOredfalcon
Originally posted by Betaguy
Originally posted by Kamofila

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/02/07/hands-on-the-first-few-hours-of-elder-scrolls-online/#more-188471

 

rps = nail on head this time.

 Not a very truthful review and very biased, the guy hates Raiding and PVP. That automatically takes out about 50% of any decent MMO. The guy needs to quit his day job of being a journalist or learn to review properly.  He isn't cut out to review games maybe he should try another product like Kleenex or something first.

 How much raiding and PvP is in the first seven levels? So even if he dislikes that aspect of the game, it still is completely irrelevant to the review. His review was on the beginning of the game. Which is a tell tale sign of how much of the game will carry along untill you get to the PvP and raiding endgame.

 

Isn't there no raiding in ESO? I am pretty sure I read on multiple occaisions that endgame is PVP and dungeons, no raids. Basically, like TSW for the first year. Did this change?

EDIT: I just did another search, and everyting (including Zenimax interviews) state that there are no raids in ESO. There are dungeons and a few large gorup world bosses, but no raids. That, in and of itself, will keep a way (before or after launch) a very large chunk of themepark MMO players unfortunatly IMO.

  torn420

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Joined: 10/09/03
Posts: 48

2/10/14 10:55:27 AM#57
Boring game.  Played 'em all.  This is just a money grab off the ass of Skyrim's success.
  Aldous.Huxley

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2/10/14 10:58:02 AM#58
Originally posted by Brabbit1987
Originally posted by hikaru77
¨Level 7¨, thats all i have to say about the review. The real game start after level 10 with the Alliance Wars.

lol I love how people say the real game starts at some specific point. If the game doesn't start at level 1 .. I don't want to play it. I should be enjoying myself right at the start. Not at level 10. Not at level 15 or 20. From the very beginning.

If I am not having fun at the start, then the game is flawed, because hooking a person is an important part of keeping players.

I completely agree. Only my metric is immediately upon launching the login client. If the logos or colors don't look just so, I'm out. I should be enjoying myself right at the start. Not at the opening credits. Not at the cinimatic. I shouldn't have to wait til I'm in game. Truly from the very beginning.

If I'm not having fun from the very start, then the game is flawed, because hooking a person is an important part of keeping players.

  Drakynn

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2/10/14 11:00:31 AM#59

1. People here obviously need to learn the difference between a game review,a game preview and a game first look based on the first few hours of gameplay.

2. Any Journalist will tell you reviews are opinion pieces and opinion pieces are allowed in ethical journalism as long as they are based on personal views and not on any kind of personal agenda or influenced by outside agendas e.g bribery or political pressure at which point they become propaganda not opinion pieces.

3. As with any opinion piece the author's opinion is their own and as such is free to diverge from the statistical norm and certainly allowed not to agree with your opinion without having been paid for or attention seeking.

4. If this had been an overwhelmingly positive first look :

Most of the people here claiming it's negative for attention's sake would be praising it as the only honest review and none of them would point out the level he got to.

Most of the people claiming it's the best review ever would be accusing it of being a paid for review and probably pointing out his level.

5.Reviews should be used intelligently to help form your opinion of the game if you can't try it for yourself.Intelligent use of  reviews means finding a group that generally gels with your tastes and views on the subject over a long period of time.It doesn't mean searching out random reviews from people you never read before to back up your own uninformed opinion.

6. There is no 6 I just like even numbers!!!!

  hikaru77

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2/10/14 11:26:22 AM#60
Originally posted by Brabbit1987
Originally posted by hikaru77
¨Level 7¨, thats all i have to say about the review. The real game start after level 10 with the Alliance Wars.

lol I love how people say the real game starts at some specific point. If the game doesn't start at level 1 .. I don't want to play it. I should be enjoying myself right at the start. Not at level 10. Not at level 15 or 20. From the very beginning.

If I am not having fun at the start, then the game is flawed, because hooking a person is an important part of keeping players.

Did you remember AoC?. The game was amazing from level 1 till the end of the tutorial zone, all the reviews about the game were great, then a few days after release we found the true state of the game. This is not a Single player RPG, is a MMO. 

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