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  imagina

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Joined: 8/06/10
Posts: 108

2/09/14 9:20:24 AM#201

Will buy the game, when it will be cheaper, stops to travesty it's free to play real nature under a subscription and become honest with what it is, a good free to play experience, but a very bad, bland and boring game as a subscription model mmo, it has nowhere near the level of graphics, animations, and content required to be a subscription game, and yes, it comes from more than me playing twenty hours spent into the beta so far.

If Zenimax was honest with the state of the game as it is, they wouldn't ask for a subscription fee and should be ashamed for doing so.

 

 

 

  Zadawn

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Joined: 11/04/10
Posts: 673

2/09/14 9:21:30 AM#202
Originally posted by rojo6934
i'll buy it if / when the subscription becomes optional. I would be OK supporting the game with a box price and expansions or DLC, definitelly not subscription material here.

What is subscription material for you? EVERYTHING used to be subscription material.

  hikaru77

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Joined: 3/28/07
Posts: 967

2/09/14 9:25:37 AM#203
¨Alliance War¨, thats all i have to say till the end of the DNA. There is a Huge MMO community that will find a new home, pretty soon. 
  Horusra

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Joined: 6/26/05
Posts: 2205

2/09/14 9:27:05 AM#204
Not sure yet if it is worth $15 a month yet. The box price is fine.
  Doogiehowser

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Joined: 3/14/12
Posts: 1939

2/09/14 9:27:20 AM#205
Originally posted by GeezerGamer

It's already been discussed many times here, but I still don't like the pay-walls. Most notably, the horse. Supposedly that's a very expensive in game bonus. From what I've seen so far, a horse will be necessary for travel and so players will be required to save up and purchase one. Well, anyone who didn't get one included in their purchase. So that's a pretty sizable gold head start there. Not sure what kind of advantage that will have in the game, But, I'm not going to be among the 1st to figure it out. The other issue I have is that this game is to date, the most expensive boxed price MMORPG yet. And it is still being argued back and forth that it's simply not worth it for a long term MMO. I'm not throwing away over a hundred bucks for an MMO that may or may not succeed as a P2P title.

 

If the game is really worth the initial expense, it will still be worth it in a month or 2 after release. I'll reconsider then.

I can even tolerate pay walls and cash shop if it atleast had enough content to keep me busy beyond first month. Sadly it doesn't. I would like to see how many will enjoy the generic fetch and kill quests all the way to level cap especially those who enjoy PVE part of MMOS more than PVP.

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  SuperNick

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Joined: 4/10/07
Posts: 401

2/09/14 9:27:37 AM#206
Originally posted by imagina

Will buy the game, when it will be cheaper, stops to travesty it's free to play real nature under a subscription and become honest with what it is, a good free to play experience, but a very bad, bland and boring game as a subscription model mmo, it has nowhere near the level of graphics, animations, and content required to be a subscription game, and yes, it comes from more than me playing twenty hours spent into the beta so far.

If Zenimax was honest with the state of the game as it is, they wouldn't ask for a subscription fee and should be ashamed for doing so.

 

 

 

Did you actually just say the game would be a good experience if it was free to play but currently since it's a sub game it's bad, bland and boring?

Are you another one of those "I secretly love this game but complaining may get me this for free" people?

Is it that subscription games aren't open to you and you're bitter about it?

  jamigre

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Joined: 4/07/03
Posts: 299

2/09/14 9:30:46 AM#207
It just feels too much like any other MMO on rails. To me that kills the Elder Scrolls experience, it's a nice game, reminds me a lot of SWOTOR, but I cant see myself forking out 60 bucks to 15/mo for a game that just missed the boat when it comes to the Elder Scrolls experience. 

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  Shadanwolf

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Joined: 6/13/10
Posts: 1872

2/09/14 9:31:52 AM#208
The alliance wars are the main attraction for me. Until i experience them first hand(and they are at least as good as DAOC)...I will not buy this game.
  Soki123

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Joined: 8/10/08
Posts: 1318

2/09/14 9:34:15 AM#209
Originally posted by Shadanwolf
The alliance wars are the main attraction for me. Until i experience them first hand(and they are at least as good as DAOC)...I will not buy this game.

They re not. They can t be by design. Classes with determined roles, and the combat made what is DAOC. ESO tries, but to me fails miserably.

  Brabbit1987

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Joined: 10/02/11
Posts: 683

2/09/14 9:36:51 AM#210
Originally posted by SuperNick
Originally posted by imagina

Will buy the game, when it will be cheaper, stops to travesty it's free to play real nature under a subscription and become honest with what it is, a good free to play experience, but a very bad, bland and boring game as a subscription model mmo, it has nowhere near the level of graphics, animations, and content required to be a subscription game, and yes, it comes from more than me playing twenty hours spent into the beta so far.

If Zenimax was honest with the state of the game as it is, they wouldn't ask for a subscription fee and should be ashamed for doing so.

 

 

 

Did you actually just say the game would be a good experience if it was free to play but currently since it's a sub game it's bad, bland and boring?

Are you another one of those "I secretly love this game but complaining may get me this for free" people?

Is it that subscription games aren't open to you and you're bitter about it?

You seem to have issues with the concept of worth. Havn't you ever heard people say they will wait till the movie comes out on DVD because they don't think it's worth it to watch it in theaters? To them the movie isn't good enough, but they would certainly be willing to watch at home. This is pretty much the same concept going on here.

The game isn't bad, but to many it isn't worth what it costs.

The whole secretly loving this game you are spouting out is you being delusional, because you seem to be having trouble grasping that the cost of something does play a large role on what someone think of a product. Again ... it is called worth.

 

Worth - noun

  1. the value equivalent to that of someone or something under consideration; the level at which someone or something deserves to be valued or rated.

     

 
  imagina

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Joined: 8/06/10
Posts: 108

2/09/14 9:41:20 AM#211

Ha ha ha ha wow, that's so amusing when people start assuming things out of their own ass, no, no no no, most free to play games are built a certain way, and have little to no content to them, they are not AAA titles by far, and ESO has little to no AAA quality for a mmo, be it in animations, graphics, AND the little, very little content it provide.

 

I actually pay for two subscription games, and paid for more than i should have for other mmo's, and no, it's not because "it's not open for me", if there was an office of regulation allowing mmorpgs to have a subscription based on the content and quality of assets it provides, ESO wouldn't even qualify to pass the test, that's how i see it from more than 20 hours into the beta, not your biased assessment / assumption that i just want it to be free to play without having played it and knowing exactly what a "sub" game should be offering, because ESO does not offer the slightest quality a sub game offers to say the least, by FAR.

  Ender4

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Joined: 5/18/08
Posts: 2094

2/09/14 9:42:22 AM#212


Originally posted by Kuinn

Originally posted by Ender4  

Originally posted by alexhpy98721 I will not be buying it... its not that bad but its... average. I hoped it can be better than SWTOR but its not, maybe in 1-2 years i will try it after they add upgrades and such.
  Being better than SWTOR is a completely sad low bar to expect since SWTOR was one of the worst MMORPG to ever be released.
 I recall seeing some TOR financial report a week or two ago which said the game made a ton of money with the cash shop, it's probably one of the more profitable western mmorpg's currently. Also I saw some news about the game pushing it's pace with content updates this year, seems like it's been doing so good they are putting more back into it :)

Miley Cyrus is one of the most popular musicians in the world right now, it doesn't make her music good. SWTOR was a really sad MMORPG and still is though I might log on just to try the new space combat.

  RedCurry

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Joined: 8/12/13
Posts: 66

2/09/14 9:43:54 AM#213
Originally posted by Horusra
Not sure yet if it is worth $15 a month yet. The box price is fine.

I'm fine with the sub price. Not sure if this is the case with most people, but I actually spend way less on video games when I'm subbing for a game. Granted, I really need the game to hold my attention for several months to make it cheaper in the long run, by my own spending practices.

When I'm not subbing for a game I can easily buy 1 or 2 games per month. And much of the time those games are in the $20-$50 range each. so $14.99 ends up being a better deal for me than $20-$100 a month. 

  SuperNick

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Joined: 4/10/07
Posts: 401

2/09/14 9:45:33 AM#214
Originally posted by Brabbit1987

You seem to have issues with the concept of worth. Havn't you ever heard people say they will wait till the movie comes out on DVD because they don't think it's worth it to watch it in theaters? To them the movie isn't good enough, but they would certainly be willing to watch at home. This is pretty much the same concept going on here.

The game isn't bad, but to many it isn't worth what it costs.

The whole secretly loving this game you are spouting out is you being delusional, because you seem to be having trouble grasping that the cost of something does play a large role on what someone think of a product. Again ... it is called worth.


 

Cool, throwing out basic dictionary descriptions of a word to justify your point. The whole concept is 100% subjective and can't be quantified with some kinda one line description, even if you think it can.

Thus you missed the point entirely: when people say they would like something just fine if it were free, it defeats the whole concept of value. They just want it for free, regardless.  This draws the view that NO amount of "worth" would be enough for the people who will always want something for nothing.

Also how can an opinion of judgement on how people are responding to something be delusional? It's an opinion based on how quite a few users are responding to the situation. At no point did I suggest it's a fact.

You seem to be having trouble grasping the concept of an opinion.

Lastly, you seem like one of those people who are completely against the subscription fee with a massive checklist of never-achievable bullet points. In that light, let's be honest, no game will ever be up to your standards.

In any event, that'll be /thread for me. Good luck with whatever F2P game you go with instead, hope it's cheaper than $15 for you.

  Kokushibyou

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Joined: 2/27/07
Posts: 236

Remember

2/09/14 9:55:19 AM#215
I wasn't planning on buying, but after trying it in beta I pre-ordered the imperial boxed edition.  It is the best MMO I have seen in a long time.  I had given up on finding a game I could stick with, but this one looks great.
  Brabbit1987

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Joined: 10/02/11
Posts: 683

2/09/14 10:08:52 AM#216
Originally posted by SuperNick
Originally posted by Brabbit1987

You seem to have issues with the concept of worth. Havn't you ever heard people say they will wait till the movie comes out on DVD because they don't think it's worth it to watch it in theaters? To them the movie isn't good enough, but they would certainly be willing to watch at home. This is pretty much the same concept going on here.

The game isn't bad, but to many it isn't worth what it costs.

The whole secretly loving this game you are spouting out is you being delusional, because you seem to be having trouble grasping that the cost of something does play a large role on what someone think of a product. Again ... it is called worth.


 

Cool, throwing out basic dictionary descriptions of a word to justify your point. The whole concept is 100% subjective and can't be quantified with some kinda one line description, even if you think it can.

Thus you missed the point entirely: when people say they would like something just fine if it were free, it defeats the whole concept of value. They just want it for free, regardless.  This draws the view that NO amount of "worth" would be enough for the people who will always want something for nothing.

Also how can an opinion of judgement on how people are responding to something be delusional? It's an opinion based on how quite a few users are responding to the situation. At no point did I suggest it's a fact.

You seem to be having trouble grasping the concept of an opinion.

Lastly, you seem like one of those people who are completely against the subscription fee with a massive checklist of never-achievable bullet points. In that light, let's be honest, no game will ever be up to your standards.

In any event, that'll be /thread for me. Good luck with whatever F2P game you go with instead, hope it's cheaper than $15 for you.

On the contrary .. I am just looking for a good game to sink my teeth in. I currently don't play any MMO games as of right now because there isn't anything out there that I like.

I also am not entirely against P2P, however, I have not seen anything worth that price. Well ... aside from TERA Online, which I admit I failed to judge properly and spent a lot of money on it. I am very weary of MMOs now after spending so much money on them just for them to either turn to crap or go F2P after I spent my money on them.

How much is an mmo worth if you are certain it's going to go F2P in a year?

Also, no one here is asking for the mmo to be FREE .. there is a very huge difference between actually being entirely free and being free to play.  You are still able to spend money on a free to play game. The only difference is you are paying when you want and for the things you want only. Meaning the concept of value most certainly does still exist.

 

Also, your comment is not an opinion, it was a statement. You where insinuating something about someone. "Are you another one of those "I secretly love this game but complaining may get me this for free" people?"

Please point out to me how that is an opinion? Sounds to me like you are just trying to cause trouble, rather then be reasonable.

 

No I didn't miss the point, I just called you out, and corrected you is all.

  MMOredfalcon

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Joined: 9/18/13
Posts: 127

2/09/14 10:18:21 AM#217
Was considering pre-ordering it. After seeing  the pre-order to get a race bit...which I feel is a money grab. And playing two weekends of beta. I decided to pass on it.  When it comes down to it....this one offers nothing really different from any other current F2P or P2P mmo out there already. Just the ESO name...it's not Skyrim by any means.
  therdre

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Joined: 5/22/07
Posts: 18

2/09/14 10:22:40 AM#218

Already pre-ordered the beta is amazing, mind boggling to me that people would say that this isn't "subscription worthy" but what else are trolls going to say I guess

  ashe59

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Joined: 5/03/04
Posts: 22

2/09/14 10:25:14 AM#219
I had high hopes for this one, but after trying the beta out its just not for me so ill be passing on it personally . The only thing i actually liked in the game was the crafting.
  xerri

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Joined: 12/25/13
Posts: 30

2/09/14 10:34:19 AM#220
Originally posted by imagina

Ha ha ha ha wow, that's so amusing when people start assuming things out of their own ass, no, no no no, most free to play games are built a certain way, and have little to no content to them, they are not AAA titles by far, and ESO has little to no AAA quality for a mmo, be it in animations, graphics, AND the little, very little content it provide.

 

I actually pay for two subscription games, and paid for more than i should have for other mmo's, and no, it's not because "it's not open for me", if there was an office of regulation allowing mmorpgs to have a subscription based on the content and quality of assets it provides, ESO wouldn't even qualify to pass the test, that's how i see it from more than 20 hours into the beta, not your biased assessment / assumption that i just want it to be free to play without having played it and knowing exactly what a "sub" game should be offering, because ESO does not offer the slightest quality a sub game offers to say the least, by FAR.

 

Your assumption for sure  but each player that wont play after Beta means I can log in faster then >>>>

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