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  d_20

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2/08/14 11:22:13 PM#61
Originally posted by RebelScum99 ... But this game, considering the IP it shares, WOULD have been better developed as a straight sandbox with some story elements, if possible.  Making it a themepark game, no matter how great it was for the story, didn't do it any favors for the series it was trying to bring to life, since The Elder Scrolls has always been about open, non-linear gameplay.  

Even though I'm buying the game, I do agree with this.

  azzamasin

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2/08/14 11:24:42 PM#62
Originally posted by RebelScum99

The problem with your reasoning is that much of the negative publicity this game has received isn't due to a lack of  the features that reviewer was looking for.  It's that the reviewer was looking for the wrong features to begin with.  In other words, TESO's major problem is that it's being compared to its own IP.  Many of these reviewers expect you to be able to do everything in TESO that you can do in the single player games.  And, you simply can't in an MMO format.  It doesn't work.  

That's not to say there aren't valid concerns, because there are.  But TESO's worst enemy isn't that it lacks features, content, or solid gameplay.  It's worst enemy is that it's carrying the Elder Scrolls name, and because of that, people are coming in with unrealistic expectations of what to expect.  

Zenimax has recreated Tamriel, the world.  But not all the little things that makes Elder Scrolls what it is.  It's unfortunate, because comparing it to other MMOs, it holds up quite well.  Comparing it to the Elder Scrolls IP, it feels like it's lacking, even if they did a good job of re-creating the game world and the atmosphere of the franchise.

I'm not sandbox apologist. In fact, I've yet to find one outside of Eve that was worth a damn.  But this game, considering the IP it shares, WOULD have been better developed as a straight sandbox with some story elements, if possible.  Making it a themepark game, no matter how great it was for the story, didn't do it any favors for the series it was trying to bring to life, since The Elder Scrolls has always been about open, non-linear gameplay.  

This is all true but the only reason and let me reiterate the ONLY reason I am going to buy the game is because it has tons of content and that's without knowing the endgame PvE experience.  So in that regard it is unlike all the other MMO's released over the last 7-8 years in that there should be content to keep one busy for a while even if the game itself is mediocre.

If your idea of a Sandbox is open FFA Full Loot PvP, full crafted world with minimal support for anything combat then your sandbox ideas are bad! Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

  Kuinn

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2/08/14 11:58:56 PM#63
If it does not play like Skyrim the rage will be there. It does not matter how the game motivates them.
  Squeak69

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2/09/14 12:40:32 AM#64
Originally posted by RebelScum99

The problem with your reasoning is that much of the negative publicity this game has received isn't due to a lack of  the features that reviewer was looking for.  It's that the reviewer was looking for the wrong features to begin with.  In other words, TESO's major problem is that it's being compared to its own IP.  Many of these reviewers expect you to be able to do everything in TESO that you can do in the single player games.  And, you simply can't in an MMO format.  It doesn't work.  

That's not to say there aren't valid concerns, because there are.  But TESO's worst enemy isn't that it lacks features, content, or solid gameplay.  It's worst enemy is that it's carrying the Elder Scrolls name, and because of that, people are coming in with unrealistic expectations of what to expect.  

Zenimax has recreated Tamriel, the world.  But not all the little things that makes Elder Scrolls what it is.  It's unfortunate, because comparing it to other MMOs, it holds up quite well.  Comparing it to the Elder Scrolls IP, it feels like it's lacking, even if they did a good job of re-creating the game world and the atmosphere of the franchise.

I'm not sandbox apologist. In fact, I've yet to find one outside of Eve that was worth a damn.  But this game, considering the IP it shares, WOULD have been better developed as a straight sandbox with some story elements, if possible.  Making it a themepark game, no matter how great it was for the story, didn't do it any favors for the series it was trying to bring to life, since The Elder Scrolls has always been about open, non-linear gameplay.  

wait i shouldnt be compareing it to the IP it is based on, then explain to me what the point of baseing it on that IP is then.

im not looking at playing the game just cause its another generic fantasy MMO i got hundreds of thsoe out there, i wanted to play it because i wanted to play a elderscrolls game online with friends. 

if you arnt willing to go all the way and make it look, fill and PLAY like a elder scrolls game then dont ruin one of my faverite IPs in order to get a few more bucks.

i wish they had just made another installment of elderscroll and put co-op in it.

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  xpiher

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2/09/14 1:23:57 AM#65
Originally posted by RebelScum99

The problem with your reasoning is that much of the negative publicity this game has received isn't due to a lack of  the features that reviewer was looking for.  It's that the reviewer was looking for the wrong features to begin with.  In other words, TESO's major problem is that it's being compared to its own IP.  Many of these reviewers expect you to be able to do everything in TESO that you can do in the single player games.  And, you simply can't in an MMO format.  It doesn't work.  

Thats simply not true. Zenimax/Bethesda could have easily made the game closer to an actual ESO title by making the game more of a sandbox and less of a solo MMORPG with a poorman's story. Instead, they went with GW2 with better instancing. 


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  Quicksand

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2/09/14 1:36:01 AM#66
Originally posted by RebelScum99
Originally posted by BeansnBread
Even when you compare it to an MMORPG, at least for the first 15 levels, it's pretty bleh. My opinion of course.

Not my opinion at all.  But everyone has their own feelings about what a solid MMO is supposed to be.

I agree with Rebel.

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  Nemesis7884

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2/09/14 1:52:36 AM#67
the problem with the critical articles is - they played the game for 5-6 lvls and wrote a review (which is ridicoulos in itself)... I heard/read different reviewers (such as gameinformer) that said the game gets better the longer you play it, further you get...
  ste2000

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2/09/14 2:07:46 AM#68
Originally posted by DMKano

TESO has fundamental gameplay problems that surfaced in all reviews so far that have nothing to do with it living up to ES single player games.

Like inability to exit zones without completing quest objectives in early parts of the game.

This must be one of the most idiotic thing created in any MMO.

The fact that you cannot leave a zone if you don't complete a quest it's absolutely ridiculous and it goes totally against the TES philosophy of free exploration.

That's why this game is getting negative reviews.

  skyline385

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2/09/14 2:25:15 AM#69
Originally posted by ste2000
Originally posted by DMKano

TESO has fundamental gameplay problems that surfaced in all reviews so far that have nothing to do with it living up to ES single player games.

Like inability to exit zones without completing quest objectives in early parts of the game.

This must be one of the most idiotic thing created in any MMO.

The fact that you cannot leave a zone if you don't complete a quest it's absolutely ridiculous and it goes totally against the TES philosophy of free exploration.

That's why this game is getting negative reviews.

Every MMO has starter zones. And story quests essential to those zones are compulsory. You can't simple leave it unless you complete them. It's the same case here. But go on, continue bashing the game for things which are present in almost every other MMO.

  Gestankfaust

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Very well. If you will not stop trolling threads, then I shall say.....NI!!

2/09/14 2:32:18 AM#70

The amount of misinformation and misleading opinions I see on this site really doesn't amaze me.

People that played any ES games should be pleased. If not, then you expect too much.

It is exactly what I expected and more.

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  ste2000

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2/09/14 2:33:17 AM#71
Originally posted by skyline385
Originally posted by ste2000
 

Every MMO has starter zones. And story quests essential to those zones are compulsory. You can't simple leave it unless you complete them. It's the same case here. But go on, continue bashing the game for things which are present in almost every other MMO.

Really? What sort of MMO do you play.

Name a MMO that doesn't allow you to exit a zone and enter another zone if you don't complete a certain quest.

  Gestankfaust

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Very well. If you will not stop trolling threads, then I shall say.....NI!!

2/09/14 2:35:36 AM#72
Originally posted by ste2000
Originally posted by skyline385
Originally posted by ste2000
 

Every MMO has starter zones. And story quests essential to those zones are compulsory. You can't simple leave it unless you complete them. It's the same case here. But go on, continue bashing the game for things which are present in almost every other MMO.

Really? What sort of MMO do you play.

Name a MMO that doesn't allow you to exit a zone and enter another zone if you don't complete a certain quest.

ALL of them if YOU interact with the zone's finale quest.....

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  otacu

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2/09/14 2:48:31 AM#73
Originally posted by Holophonist

I kind of agree and disagree OP. Yes, games are directed experiences. For instance if a themepark wanted you to play more like an TES game, they could have quests that are more than 30 feet away from where you got it. If ESO does that, that will help.

 

However, we ARE influenced by things outside of the game's control. If people are used to skipping cutscenes and dialogue because it's often not worth it, they may continue to do so in ESO, when maybe they shouldn't.

The OP is right.

If forx example the dialogue and cutscenes shouldn't be skipped the game should direct the player by making it worth to watch and hear them.

There should be important info inside that should you not know it you will get much less experience or cannot complete a quest at all. Instead it's just the generic and boring dialogue nobody cares and we have seen/heard thousand of times..... and because of this it's content skipped.

Don't blame the players. Zenimax didn't make cutscenes/dialogue worth watching/hearing.

  Holophonist

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2/09/14 11:36:08 AM#74
Originally posted by otacu
Originally posted by Holophonist

I kind of agree and disagree OP. Yes, games are directed experiences. For instance if a themepark wanted you to play more like an TES game, they could have quests that are more than 30 feet away from where you got it. If ESO does that, that will help.

 

However, we ARE influenced by things outside of the game's control. If people are used to skipping cutscenes and dialogue because it's often not worth it, they may continue to do so in ESO, when maybe they shouldn't.

The OP is right.

If forx example the dialogue and cutscenes shouldn't be skipped the game should direct the player by making it worth to watch and hear them.

There should be important info inside that should you not know it you will get much less experience or cannot complete a quest at all. Instead it's just the generic and boring dialogue nobody cares and we have seen/heard thousand of times..... and because of this it's content skipped.

Don't blame the players. Zenimax didn't make cutscenes/dialogue worth watching/hearing.

So the answer is to REQUIRE that people watch the cutscenes in order to see tangible benefits in-game? No, I don't think so. I'm a walking example of why the OP is wrong. At first I was rushing through quests and skipping dialogue because I assumed it was just another themepark, and to some extent it is. But because I watched Bill Murphy's review wherein he suggests playing it like a TES game, I decided to slow it down and pay attention to the quests and it WAS more enjoyable. The bottom line is there ARE things outside of the game's control that dictate how we play, and that kind of sucks.

 

So I'll say again, OP is kind of right and kind of wrong. Games are directed experiences and if ESO wants us to play a certain way, they should do things that nudge us in that way, but at the same time some things are out of their control, like a person's perception of the game.

  Nihilist

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2/09/14 11:49:08 AM#75

What the reviewers don't like is that the game is completely 'on rails' which is bad for Elder Scrolls fans AND for MMO players.

 

The quests themselves may be decently written and the VO is good, but the actual quests basically consist of running from objective to objective without actually doing much.

 

'Kill 10 rats' quests may be lame, but at least you have to actually do something. The reviewers don't like how ESO consists of running from objective to objective without actually having to do much of anything at all.

 

They are playing for like 5-10 hours and feel like they haven't encountered anything interesting.

  SEANMCAD

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2/09/14 11:55:57 AM#76

From reading some of these replies it appears this is what a gamer is 'supposed' to do.

Gamer: 'I really like exploring'

Game: 'then dont take the quest that gives youuber XP, go hang out at the bar and stare at the wall'

Does you MMO have rainbow sprinkles?

  JJ82

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2/09/14 11:57:59 AM#77
Originally posted by Gestankfaust

The amount of misinformation and misleading opinions I see on this site really doesn't amaze me.

People that played any ES games should be pleased. If not, then you expect too much.

It is exactly what I expected and more.

So, because we played ES games, we MUST not expect too much from this one? We should lower our standards?!?

That makes no sense at all. TESO would have been great, 14 years ago. Sadly MMOs have evolved, they provide far more in most ways. It would be like their making TES 6 and making it like Redguard and you coming along saying we expect too much.

No thank you. I don't live in the past, and I don't want my games to play like they belong in the 90s ESPECIALLY if they dare to use a beloved IP.

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