Trending Games | ArcheAge | World of Warcraft | Guild Wars 2 | Pirate101

  Network:  FPSguru RTSguru
Login:  Password:   Remember?  
Show Quick Gamelist Jump to Random Game
Members:2,860,242 Users Online:0
Games:742  Posts:6,246,185
Recent forum postsRSS
Active threads
Cloud view
List all forums
General Forums
Developers Corner General Discussion
Popular Game Forums
Click a status to find game forum
Game Forums
Click a letter to find game forum
A-C
2029 Online 2112: Revolution 2Moons 4Story 8BitMMO 9 Dragons A Mystical Land A Tale in the Desert III A3 ACE Online ARGO Online Aberoth Absolute Force Online Absolute Terror Achaea Adellion Aerrevan Aetolia, the Midnight Age Age of Armor Age of Conan Age of Empires Online Age of Mourning Age of Wulin Age of Wushu Aida Arenas Aika Aion Albion Online Alganon All Points Bulletin (APB) Allods Online Altis Gates Amazing World Anarchy Online Ancients of Fasaria Andromeda 5 Angels Online Angry Birds Epic Anime Trumps Anmynor Anno Online Applo Arcane Hearts Arcane Legends ArchLord ArcheAge Archeblade Archlord X Ascend: Hand of Kul Asda 2 Asda Story Ashen Empires Asheron's Call Asheron's Call 2 Astera Online Astonia III Astro Empires Astro Lords: Oort CLoud Asura Force Atlantica Online Atriarch Aura Kingdom Aurora Blade Auto Assault Avatar Star Battle Dawn Battle Dawn Galaxies Battle for Graxia Battle of 3 Kingdoms Battle of the Immortals Battlecruiser Online Battlestar Galactica Online Battlestar Reloaded Beyond Protocol Black Aftermath Black Desert Black Gold Black Prophecy Black Prophecy Tactics: Nexus Conflict Blacklight Retribution Blade & Soul Blade Hunter Blade Wars Blazing Throne Bless Blitz 1941 Blood and Jade Bloodlines Champions Boot Hill Heroes Borderlands 2 Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel Bound by Flame Bounty Bay Online Brain Storm Bravada Bravely Default Bravely Second Brawl Busters. Brick-Force Bright Shadow Bullet Run Business Tycoon Online CTRacer Cabal Online Caesary Call of Camelot Call of Gods Call of Thrones Camelot Unchained Canaan Online Cardmon Hero Cartoon Universe CasinoRPG Cast & Conquer Castle Empire Castlot Celtic Heroes Champions Online Champions of Regnum Chaos Online Child of Light Chrono Tales Citadel of Sorcery CitiesXL Citizen Zero City of Decay City of Heroes City of Steam City of Transformers City of Villains Civilization Online Clan Lord Clash of Clans Cloud Nine Club Penguin Colony of War Command & Conquer: Tiberium Alliances Company of Heroes Online Conquer Online Conquer Online 3 Continent of the Ninth (C9) Core Blaze Core Exiles Corum Online Craft of Gods Crimecraft Crimelife 2 Cronous Crota II Crusaders of Solaris Cultures Online Cyber Monster 2 Céiron Wars
D-F
D&D Online DC Universe DK Online DOTA DOTA 2 DUST 514 DV8: Exile Dalethaan Dance Groove Online Dark Age of Camelot Dark Ages Dark Legends Dark Orbit Dark Relic: Prelude Dark Solstice Dark and Light DarkEden Online DarkSpace Darkblood Online Darkest Dungeon Darkfall Darkfall: Unholy Wars Darkwind: War on Wheels Das Tal Dawn of Fantasy Dawntide DayZ Dead Earth Dead Frontier Dead Island Dead Island 2 Dead Island: Riptide Deco Online Deepworld Defiance Deicide Online Dekaron Demons at the Horizon Desert Operations Destiny Diablo 3 Diamonin Digimon Battle Dino Storm Disciple Divergence Divina Divine Souls Divinity: Original Sin Dofus Dominus Online Dragon Age: Inquisition Dragon Ball Online Dragon Born Online Dragon Crusade Dragon Empires Dragon Eternity Dragon Nest Dragon Oath Dragon Pals Dragon Raja Dragon's Call Dragon's Call II Dragon's Prophet DragonSky DragonSoul Dragona Dragonica Dragons and Titans Drakengard 3 Dream of Mirror Online Dreamland Online Dreamlords: The Reawakening Drift City Duels Dungeon Blitz Dungeon Fighter Online Dungeon Overlord Dungeon Party Dungeon Rampage Dungeon Runners Dungeon of the Endless Dynastica Dynasty Warriors Online Dynasty of the Magi EIN (Epicus Incognitus) EVE Online Earth Eternal Earth and Beyond Earthrise Eclipse War Ecol Tactics Online Eden Eternal Edge of Space Einherjar - The Viking's Blood Elder Scrolls Online Eldevin Elf Online Elite: Dangerous Embers of Caerus Emil Chronicle Online Empire Empire & State Empire Craft Empire Universe 3 EmpireQuest Empires of Galldon End of Nations Endless Ages Endless Blue Moon Online Endless Online Entropia Universe EpicDuel Erebus: Travia Reborn Eredan Eternal Blade Eternal Lands Eternal Saga Ether Fields Ether Saga Online Eudemons Online EuroGangster EverEmber Online EverQuest Next EverQuest Online Adventures Evernight Everquest Everquest II Evony Exarch Exorace F.E.A.R. Online Face of Mankind Fairyland Online Fall of Rome Fallen Earth Fallen Sword Fallout Online Family Guy Online Fantage Fantasy Earth Zero Fantasy Realm Online Fantasy Tales Online Fantasy Worlds: Rhynn Faunasphere Faxion Online Fearless Fantasy Ferentus Ferion Fiesta Online Final Fantasy Type-0 HD Final Fantasy XI Final Fantasy XIV Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn Firefall Fists of Fu Florensia Flyff Football Manager Live Football Superstars Force of Arms Forge Forsaken World Fortnite Fortuna Forum for Discussion of Everlight Freaky Creatures Free Realms Freesky Online Freeworld Fung Wan Online Furcadia Fury Fusion Fall
G-L
GalaXseeds Galactic Command Online Game of Thrones: Seven Kingdoms Gameglobe Gate To Heavens Gates of Andaron Gatheryn Gauntlet Gekkeiju Online Ghost Online Ghost Recon Online Gladiatus Glitch Global Agenda Global Soccer Gloria Victis Glory of Gods GoGoRacer Goal Line Blitz Gods and Heroes GodsWar Online Golemizer Golf Star GoonZu Online Graal Kingdoms Granado Espada Online Grand Chase Grand Fantasia Grepolis Grimlands Guild Wars Guild Wars 2 Guild Wars Factions Guild Wars Nightfall H1Z1 Habbo Hotel Hailan Rising HaloSphere2 Haven & Hearth Hawken Heart Forth Alicia Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft Helbreath Hellgate Hellgate: London Hello Kitty Online Hero Online Hero Zero Hero's Journey Hero: 108 Online HeroSmash Heroes & Generals Heroes & Legends: Conquerors of Kolhar Heroes in the Sky Heroes of Bestia Heroes of Gaia Heroes of Might and Magic Online Heroes of Thessalonica Heroes of Three Kingdoms Heroes of the Storm Hex Holic Online Hostile Space Hunter Blade Huxley Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition Illutia Illyriad Immortals USA Imperator Imperian Inferno Legend Infestation: Survivor Stories Infinite Crisis Infinity Infinity Iris Online Iron Grip: Marauders Irth Worlds Island Forge Islands of War Istaria: Chronicles of the Gifted Jade Dynasty Jagged Alliance Online Juggernaut Jumpgate Jumpgate Evolution KAL Online Kakele Online Kaos War Karos Online Kartuga Kicks Online King of Kings 3 Kingdom Heroes Kingdom Under Fire II Kingdom of Drakkar Kingory Kings and Legends Kings of the Realm KingsRoad Kitsu Saga Kiwarriors Knight Age Knight Online Knights of Dream City Kothuria Kung Foo! Kunlun Online Kyn L.A.W. LEGO Universe La Tale Land of Chaos Online Landmark Lands of Hope: Phoenix Edition LastChaos League of Angels League of Legends - Clash of Fates Legend of Edda: Vengeance Legend of Golden Plume Legend of Katha Legend of Mir 2 Legend of Mir 3 Legendary Champions Lego Minifigures Online Lichdom: Battlemage Life is Feudal Light of Nova Lime Odyssey Line of Defense Lineage Lineage Eternal: Twilight Resistance Lineage II Linkrealms Loong Online Lord of the Rings Online Lords Online Lords of the Fallen Lost Saga Lucent Heart Lunia Lusternia: Age of Ascension Luvinia World
M-Q
MU Online Mabinogi Maestia: Rise of Keledus MagiKnights Magic Barrage Magic World Online Manga Fighter MapleStory Martial Heroes Marvel Heroes Marvel Super Hero Squad Online Marvel: Avengers Alliance MechWarrior Online Megaten Meridian 59 : Evolution Merlin MetalMercs Metaplace Metin 2 MicroVolts Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor Midkemia Online Might & Magic Heroes: Kingdoms MilMo Minecraft Mini Fighter Minions of Mirth Ministry of War Monato Esprit Monkey King Online Monkey Quest Monster & Me Monster Madness Online MonsterMMORPG Moonlight Online: Tales of Eternal Blood Moonrise Mordavia Mortal Online Mourning My Lands Myst Online: URU Live Myth Angels Online Myth War Myth War 2 Mytheon Mythic Saga Mythos N.E.O Online NIDA Online Nadirim Naviage: The Power of Capital Navy Field Need for Speed World Nemexia Neo's Land NeoSteam Neocron Nether Neverwinter Nexus: The Kingdom Of The Winds NinjaTrick NosTale Novus Aeterno Oberin Odin Quest Odyssey RPG Ogre Island Omerta 3 Online Boxing Manager Onverse Order & Chaos Online Order of Magic Original Blood Origins Return Origins of Malu Orion's Belt Otherland Forums OverSoul Overkings Oz Online Oz World Pandora Saga Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen Panzar Parabellum Parallel Kingdom Parfait Station Path of Exile Pathfinder Online Perfect World Perpetuum Online Persona V Phantasy Star Online 2 Phantasy Star Universe Phoenix Dynasty Online Phylon Pi Story Picaroon Pirate Galaxy Pirate Storm Pirate101 PirateKing Online Pirates of the Burning Sea Pirates of the Caribbean Online Pixie Hollow Planeshift Planet Arkadia Planet Calypso PlanetSide 2 Planetside Planets³ Playboy Manager Pocket Legends Pockie Ninja Pockie Pirates Pockie Saints PoxNora Prime World Prime: Battle for Dominus Priston Tale Priston Tale II Prius Online Project Blackout Project Powder Project Titan Forums Project Wiki Project Zomboid Puzzle Pirates Quest for Infamy Quickhit Football
R-S
R2 Online RAN Online RF Online ROSE Online Rage of 3 Kingdoms Ragnarok Online Ragnarok Online II RaiderZ Rakion Rappelz RappelzSEA Ravenmarch Realm Fighter Realm of the Mad God Realm of the Titans Realms Online Reclamation Red Stone Red War: Edem's Curse Regnum Online Remnant Knights Renaissance Repulse Requiem: Memento Mori Rift RiotZone Rise Rise of Dragonian Era Rise of Empire Rise of the Tycoon Risen 3: Titan Lords Rising of King Risk Your Life Rivality Rockfree Rohan: Blood Feud Role Play Worlds Roll n Rock Roma Victor Romadoria Rosh Online Roto X Rubies of Eventide Ruin Online Rumble Fighter Runes of Magic Runescape Rust Rusty Hearts Ryzom S4 League SAGA SD Gundam Capsule Fighter Online SMITE SUN Sacred 3 Sagramore Salem SaySayGirls Scarlet Blade Scions of Fate Seal Online: Evolution Second Chance Heroes Second Life Secret of the Solstice Seed Serenia Fantasy Seven Seas Saga Seven Souls Online Sevencore Shadow Realms Shadow of Legend Shadowbane Shadowrun Online Shaiya Shards Online Shattered Galaxy Sho Online Shot Online Shroud of the Avatar SideQuest Siege on Stars Sigonyth: Desert Eternity Silkroad Online Skyblade Skyforge SmashMuck Champions Smoo Online Soldier Front Soul Master Soul Order Online Soul of Guardian Space Heroes Universe Sparta: War of Empires Spellcasters Sphere Spiral Knights Spirit Tales Splash Fighters Squad Wars Star Citizen Star Sonata 2 Star Stable Star Supremacy Star Trek Online Star Trek: Infinite Space Star Wars Galaxies Star Wars: Clone Wars Adventures Star Wars: The Old Republic StarQuest Online Stargate Worlds Starlight Story Starpires State of Decay SteelWar Online Stone Age 2 Stormfall: Age of War Storybricks Stronghold Kingdoms Styx: Master of Shadows Sudden Attack Supremacy 1914 Supreme Destiny Sword Girls Sword of Destiny: Rise of Aions SwordX Swords of Heavens Swordsman
T-Z
TERA TS Online Tabula Rasa Tactica Online Tales Runner Tales of Fantasy Tales of Pirates Tales of Pirates II Tales of Solaris Talisman Online Tamer Saga Tank Ace Tantra Online Tatsumaki: Land at War Terra Militaris TerraWorld Online Thang Online The 4th Coming The Agency The Aurora World The Banner Saga The Black Watchmen The Chronicle The Chronicles of Spellborn The Crew The Division The Hammers End The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing 2 The Legend of Ares The Lost Titans The Matrix Online The Mighty Quest for Epic Loot The Missing Ink The Mummy Online The Myth of Soma The Pride of Taern The Realm Online The Repopulation The Secret World The Sims Online The Strategems The West The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt Theralon There Therian Saga Thrones of Chaos Tibia Tibia Micro Edition Tiger Knight Titan Siege Titans of Time Toontown Online Top Speed Topia Online Torchlight Total Domination Transformers Universe Transistor Transverse Traveller AR Travia Online Travian Trials of Ascension Tribal Hero Tribal Wars Tribes Universe Trickster Online Trove Troy Online True Fantasy Live Online Turf Battles Twelve Sky Twelve Sky 2 Twilight War Tynon U.B. Funkeys UFO Online URDEAD Online Ultima Forever: Quest for the Avatar Ultima Online Ultima X: Odyssey Ultimate Naruto Ultimate Soccer Boss Uncharted Waters Online Undercover 2: Merc Wars Underlight Unification Wars Universe Online Utopia Valkyrie Sky Vampire Lord Online Vanguard: Saga of Heroes Vanquish Space Vector City Racers Vendetta Online Victory - Age of Racing Vindictus Virtonomics Vis Gladius Visions of Zosimos VoidExpanse Voyage Century Online W.E.L.L. Online WAR (Warhammer Online) WAR2 Glory WYD Global Wakfu War Thunder War of 2012 War of Angels War of Legends War of Mercenaries War of Thrones War of the Immortals WarFlow Waren Story Wargame1942 Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade Warhammer 40K: Dark Millennium Online Warhammer Online: Wrath of Heroes Warkeepers Warrior Epic Wartune Wasteland 2 WebLords Wild West Online WildStar Wind of Luck WindSlayer 2 Wings of Destiny Wish Wizard101 Wizardry Online Wizards and Champions Wonder King Wonderland Online World Golf Tour World of Battles World of Darkness World of Heroes World of Kung Fu World of Pirates World of Speed World of Tanks World of Tanks Generals World of Warcraft World of Warplanes World of Warships World of the Living Dead WorldAlpha Wurm Online Xenoblade Chronicles: X Xenocell Xiah Xsyon Xulu YS Online Yitien ZU Online Zentia Zero Online Zero Online: The Andromeda Crisis Zodiac Online Zombies Ate My Pizza eRepublik

MMORPG.com Discussion Forums

General Discussion

General Discussion 

The Pub at MMORPG.COM  » Now D3 is a huge financial success selling 15M, are MMORPGs going to be more like ARPGs?

3 Pages « 1 2 3 » Search
57 posts found
  GrayImpact

Hard Core Member

Joined: 11/03/08
Posts: 865

2/08/14 5:06:16 AM#21

I recon Diablo 3's sales where largely based on how great Diablo 2 was, and that combined with a blizzard tag.

I really want to know how well Reaper of souls will sell, that'll show if D3 is "really" successful.

 

I'm probably completely wrong though, heh.

  Siveria

Spotlight Poster

Joined: 3/11/11
Posts: 1162

2/08/14 5:12:41 AM#22

I own D3, and i've never gotten thru it, mostly because the game as a whole bored the hell out of me, I hate the fact you have 0 decisions abouyt how your character advances at all. Alot of the fun of diablo 2 was finding a skill build you like that works for you. D3 completly removes this and all your left with is a husk of a action rpg. I think i was the witchdoctor and got as far as the desert part before I just moved on out of sheer bordom. Not to mention the item system sucks with completly random stats on everything. In most Arpgs you can clearly tell what gear is meant for what class by the req's on it. Again spendable stat points, and class-based gear were completly thrown out the window.

D3 is by far the biggest waste of money I spent on a game in recent years. The only game that would top it would have been bioshock Infinite, with its 7 hour main story and 0 replay value whatsoever. Thankfully i didn't buy bioshock infinite I got it by other means, and I personally laugh my ass off at people who spent 60 bucks on that game.

For me to buy the d3 xpac they would have to majorly change the game to make it more like diablo 2, otherwise I have no interest in it personally, because D3 was byfar the most boring action rpg I have played.

Being a pessimist is a win-win pattern of thinking. If you're a pessimist (I'll admit that I am!) you're either:

A. Proven right (if something bad happens)

or

B. Pleasantly surprised (if something good happens)

Either way, you can't lose! Try it out sometime!

  Solar_Prophet

Hard Core Member

Joined: 11/10/13
Posts: 643

2/08/14 5:18:00 AM#23
Originally posted by Magnetia
Diablo 4 couldn't ever beat D3 because we all got burned by how greedy they are and how artistically bankrupt they've become.

Which is a complete load of nonsense. Artistically bankrupt? I'll agree that the writing was sub-par, and the dialogue was George Lucas level terrible, but other than a couple spots (Rita Repulsa / Maghda) the game design & visuals especially are top notch. They managed to update the look of the game while keeping in spirit with previous entries in the series; plus it did away with the moronic light radius mechanic so the artwork could actually be seen. I love the atmosphere in D3, with the opening of Act 3 one of my favorite areas in any game, ever.

But you are after all entitled to your opinion, no matter how silly and tainted by nostalgia it is.

Today's message is brought to you by the U.S. Department of Education! Making our children more stupid since 1979!

  sportsfan

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/20/12
Posts: 365

2/08/14 5:26:48 AM#24
Originally posted by Solar_Prophet
Originally posted by Magnetia
Diablo 4 couldn't ever beat D3 because we all got burned by how greedy they are and how artistically bankrupt they've become.

Which is a complete load of nonsense. Artistically bankrupt? I'll agree that the writing was sub-par, and the dialogue was George Lucas level terrible, but other than a couple spots (Rita Repulsa / Maghda) the game design & visuals especially are top notch. They managed to update the look of the game while keeping in spirit with previous entries in the series; plus it did away with the moronic light radius mechanic so the artwork could actually be seen. I love the atmosphere in D3, with the opening of Act 3 one of my favorite areas in any game, ever.

But you are after all entitled to your opinion, no matter how silly and tainted by nostalgia it is.

He is just spamming copy/pasting from the internet. Most of these guys never played the game seriously. Like the one above, he made it to Act 2 as a lvl 14.

You can't evaluate games when not playing them, but on the web it looks cool to hate.Hence fake accounts everywhere.

D3 had it all, but there was and is clearly a lack of coordination at Blizzard. And it has NOTHING to do with different skill levels or the AH or the loot as such.

It is the overview that is the problem and frankly I hate noobs comments who never even touched the game seriously.

Whacky internet.

 

  Nadia

Elite Member

Joined: 7/26/03
Posts: 11491

2/08/14 5:44:53 AM#25
Originally posted by nariusseldon

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-02-07-diablo-3-sales-hit-15m-as-wow-subs-rise

We already see GW2 (which itself sold pretty well when released) to have more actiony combat, and so does NWN.

Is the trend of MMOs going in the direction of ARPGs?

Age of Conan was action combat too and it released 6 years ago -- unrelated to ARPGs
  Banquetto

Apprentice Member

Joined: 10/06/09
Posts: 1028

2/08/14 5:50:43 AM#26


Originally posted by iridescence
As an aside, I wonder how well Diablo 4 will sell? From what I heard a lot of people bought D3 based on loving D2 and being hyped and were tremendously disappointed with D3. Blizzard won't be able to pull that trick again. 

Yeah that's what people said when Diablo 3 sold 2 million pre-orders and then 6.5 million copies in the first week. It was all hype.

Only problem is.. despite these people telling us how horrible D3 is and how nobody likes it, it has still sold another 8.5 million copies since then.

Fact is, it's a staggering popular game, with a noisy bunch of whiners slamming it on the internet.

  Nadia

Elite Member

Joined: 7/26/03
Posts: 11491

2/08/14 6:17:38 AM#27
Originally posted by Banquetto

Diablo 3 sold 2 million pre-orders and then 6.5 million copies in the first week. It was all hype.

Only problem is.. despite these people telling us how horrible D3 is and how nobody likes it, it has still sold another 8.5 million copies since then.

Diablo 3 sold 10 million on the PC during its first 3 months month ending July 2012

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-08-03-activision-diablo-3-has-over-10-million-players

18 months later, D3 has sold 5 million more but that includes console sales on PS3 and XBOX360

 

Nov 07, 2013

http://www.shacknews.com/article/81933/diablo-3-hits-14-million-sales

Blizzard didn't reveal just how much of the sales came from the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions, but we know that it had moved 12 million as of the start of this year. That means the console versions sold somewhere under two million during the two months it was available in this quarter, minus whatever the PC and Mac versions sold since the start of 2013. Still, the console ports were specifically mentioned as a boon to overall sales this year, so it must have been a significant chunk.

 

  Flyte27

Advanced Member

Joined: 12/13/05
Posts: 2255

2/08/14 6:47:28 AM#28
Originally posted by sportsfan
Originally posted by laokoko

I don't know why people are talking about diablo 4.

We can already see the truth on the expansion sale in a couple of month.

Blizzard had all aces in hand with D3.

D3 as a concept was perfect in a time where short playing sessions, solo challenge  and an armory to brag and view each others avatars is mandatory for success. It even introduced an AH in Diablo.

Blizzard fucked up BIG time though. 

NOT only because of bad drops , NOT because of AH's and trading but because of bad mechanics.

If they had introduced a ONE TIME sell system in the AH's (gear bought on the AH couldn't be traded a second time by making it BoA after being bought), the game would have been an incredible endless experience.

Everyone and his dog would grind to find better gear to sell and do everything to reach that goal. Since the great gear would DISSAPEAR from the trading game, it would invite everyone to keep on playing.

With such a mechanic the trading would adapt to the number of players and a perfect balance would result in endless play.

 

---> Ros fucked it all up now. No end game as everything that drops after you kill the final boss is meaningless. Worthless even.

D3 RoS will be dead 2 months after its launch as trading is near impossible. D3 will now be remembered as a joke of a game.

 

Even some Blizzard hypers like Athene said it recently: there is no end game in the upcoming RoS: it is boring as hell....

 

D4 as a full fledged MMO - but action packed - with a full fledged Gold AH can't come soon enough, but helas it won't be in this decade anymore.

Btw: 15 million copies was due to Blizzard hype. Hearthstone will double that player figure within 10 months. Every Blizzard game gets to 10 million copies, good or bad. And HS is not better than D3 RoS.

Perhaps Blizzard did it on purpose. Everyone back to WoW is their motto lately.

 

 

How is this the mess up Blizzard made?  How would making items easier to sell in the auction house make playing the game over and over and over again more fun?  The fun comes from inside the game.  It doesn't come from selling things in the auction house.  I'm glad they are getting rid of it.  D1 and D2 didn't have an auction house and they kept peoples attention a lot longer then D3. 

  ChromeBallz

Advanced Member

Joined: 5/31/04
Posts: 275

2/08/14 6:56:56 AM#29


Originally posted by nariusseldon
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-02-07-diablo-3-sales-hit-15m-as-wow-subs-rise

We already see GW2 (which itself sold pretty well when released) to have more actiony combat, and so does NWN.

Is the trend of MMOs going in the direction of ARPGs?

Now, before anyone says Halo also sold a lot, there are devs moving in that direction too ... Defiance, and Destiny (which is close enough to a MMO, but not quite). So may be FPS is another direction MMO, or MMO-like games will go? May be now MMO is going to splinter .. ARPG-MMO, MOBA-MMO, FPS-MMOs .....

 

 


WoW already was heavily inspired by Diablo 2 in many respects. Diablo 3 took after WoW on it's turn.

People will sell what they think sells well.

Playing: EVE
Played (more than 1 month): WoW, Tera, GW2, L2, WAR, AoC, DnL, GW, LotRO, EQ2, TOR, CoH, STO, TSW
Tried (trial, up to 1 month): EQ, UO, AO, EnB, TCoS, Fury, Ryzom, EU, DDO, TR, RF, CO, Aion, VG

  Flyte27

Advanced Member

Joined: 12/13/05
Posts: 2255

2/08/14 7:00:29 AM#30
Originally posted by sportsfan
Originally posted by Solar_Prophet
Originally posted by Magnetia
Diablo 4 couldn't ever beat D3 because we all got burned by how greedy they are and how artistically bankrupt they've become.

Which is a complete load of nonsense. Artistically bankrupt? I'll agree that the writing was sub-par, and the dialogue was George Lucas level terrible, but other than a couple spots (Rita Repulsa / Maghda) the game design & visuals especially are top notch. They managed to update the look of the game while keeping in spirit with previous entries in the series; plus it did away with the moronic light radius mechanic so the artwork could actually be seen. I love the atmosphere in D3, with the opening of Act 3 one of my favorite areas in any game, ever.

But you are after all entitled to your opinion, no matter how silly and tainted by nostalgia it is.

He is just spamming copy/pasting from the internet. Most of these guys never played the game seriously. Like the one above, he made it to Act 2 as a lvl 14.

You can't evaluate games when not playing them, but on the web it looks cool to hate.Hence fake accounts everywhere.

D3 had it all, but there was and is clearly a lack of coordination at Blizzard. And it has NOTHING to do with different skill levels or the AH or the loot as such.

It is the overview that is the problem and frankly I hate noobs comments who never even touched the game seriously.

Whacky internet.

 


The game has nice art, but it definitely has a different art style and feel. 

Obviously the first two games were a lot darker.  They had a lot more blood.  The butcher was a lot scarier.  It was like playing through a survival horror game that happened to be an actionrpg.  The world had a realistic, gritty, dark, depressing feel to it.  The CGI scenes lent to this.  There were no goofy classes like Monk and Witch Doctor that look like Cartoon Characters.  I was never a big fan of the Barbarian even in the second game.  The fighter fit a lot better.

D3 is a very nice looking, but cartoony game that was clearly toned down for this age where everything is blown out of proportion and mass market appeal is attempted to be reached.  The characters in the game never really scare you in any way.  The main bad guy in the game uses a pretty young girl as his host.  Diablo is a big cartoony monster with big breasts and hips sticking out.  It's hard to be afraid of it.  As mentioned the Monk and Witch Doctor are throw offs from games like World of Warcraft which were never intended to be scary.  Overall it's a pretty game to look at but doesn't really have much life to it.  Everything is to politically correct for a world that is supposed to be filled with evil to defeat.  Then again that is the case with many games these days.

I believe Diablo and many other early RPGs came from the medieval setting which was definitely more gritty and had more gritty traditional classes like Mage, Fighter, Theif, Cleric.  Dark worlds that represented the times they took place in.  Even when games take place in a medieval setting these days they don't really represent those times accurately in any way because it wouldn't be politically correct and it wouldn't have mass appeal to different demographics.

  lizardbones

Elite Member

Joined: 6/11/08
Posts: 10644

I think with my heart and move with my head.-Kongos

2/08/14 7:02:47 AM#31
Originally posted by nilden

Minecraft sold 35M and I'm way more interested in Everquest Next Landmark and more sandbox games. You already have tons of MMO's leaning toward ARPG games like Priston Tale and Marvel Heroes but they really don't do anything more for me than Diablo 3 or Path of Exile.

You have games like Runescape and Ultima Online with the isometric view and personally I would rather play a full 3D MMORPG.

As far as more actiony combat that does not relate to ARPGs but more to fighting games like Soul Caliber with dodging and positional moves etc so I would say MMOs are drawing more from 3D fighting games with the action combat than ARPGs.

 

Diablo sold however many copies it sold at over three times the price of Minecraft.  When the D3 expansion comes out, it will be selling at $60 a pop too, and people are going to buy the heck out of that.  D3 has a smaller audience willing to spend more money than Minecraft.  Maybe more than EQNL.  Definitely more than the other games mentioned.

 

Different games, different markets, different marketing strategies.  In the end, the money made will determine a lot of what happens next.  But that doesn't mean MMORPGs will be more like ARPGs though.  Developers can sell what the market supports and selling more ARPGs for more money per sale doesn't mean the MMO or MMORPG market is going to spend more money per sale for ARPG like MMOs or MMORPGs.

 

For every large, complex problem, there is a simple, clear solution that also happens to be absolutely wrong.

  davc123

Apprentice Member

Joined: 6/26/11
Posts: 366

2/08/14 7:05:52 AM#32
yea selling  15mil but 90% is disappointed and still playing maybe 100.000 ppls
  Prenho3

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/19/13
Posts: 111

2/08/14 7:06:39 AM#33
Lineage 1 is an isometric MMORPG released in 1998 and still makes 50-60-80+ million USD a quarter.
  Tibernicuspa

Apprentice Member

Joined: 11/03/13
Posts: 986

2/08/14 8:55:38 AM#34

MMOs have been more like ARPGs for the last 7 years or so, like WoW.

 

And its killing the genre, not helping it.

  Vorthanion

Hard Core Member

Joined: 7/02/11
Posts: 1917

2/08/14 9:00:59 AM#35
I don't mind there being action games in the MMO genre, but I'm getting sick and tired of almost every stinking recent and upcoming game jumping on the action bandwagon.  When will this genre learn to do things in moderation?  It's like lemmings to the cliff, they all have to jump off, there is no room for divergent paths.

  Flyte27

Advanced Member

Joined: 12/13/05
Posts: 2255

2/08/14 9:52:59 AM#36
Originally posted by Vorthanion
I don't mind there being action games in the MMO genre, but I'm getting sick and tired of almost every stinking recent and upcoming game jumping on the action bandwagon.  When will this genre learn to do things in moderation?  It's like lemmings to the cliff, they all have to jump off, there is no room for divergent paths.

The main problem is that games are still real time turn based, but pretend to be FPS.  In pretending to be FPS they lose a lot of their strategic elements.  Even World of Warcraft had a large variety of abilities for different situations.  Now you have only a few abilities, but it's still real time turn based so you don't have the complexity of twitch based combat.  What you end up with is a really simple an boring real time turn based combat.

  FinalFikus

Hard Core Member

Joined: 3/01/13
Posts: 910

"We're up all night to get lucky"

2/08/14 10:15:31 AM#37

GTA says hi. The future of gaming.

Diablo could be bigger if they would develop a fully 3-d open world instead of squatting on the IP.

"If the Damned gave you a roadmap, then you'd know just where to go"

  Braindome

Hard Core Member

Joined: 12/06/11
Posts: 572

2/08/14 10:35:59 AM#38
People still desire couch co-op, we need more couch co-op games, this game proves it.
  Laughing-man

Hard Core Member

Joined: 4/23/09
Posts: 3388

I thought what I'd do is I'd pretend I was one of those Deaf-mutes.

2/08/14 10:40:02 AM#39

Like Marvel Heroes or Path of Exile or insert a few hundred other ARPGs.

There are already a lot of them.

Did you forget that Diablo 2 succeeded before Diablo 3?  

They've been cloning ARPGs for almost two decades now...

  davc123

Apprentice Member

Joined: 6/26/11
Posts: 366

2/08/14 11:57:02 AM#40
btw Path of Exile  still  much better then d3
3 Pages « 1 2 3 » Search