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  Caldrin

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2/06/14 10:04:32 AM#21

its a shame darkfall does not exist any more.. i had some of the best times playing that game.

 

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  Caldrin

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2/06/14 10:06:59 AM#22
Originally posted by Tibernicuspa
Originally posted by IDontThinkSoNo
DarkFail is still around?

Thanks for trolling.

 

BUt its one of the only MMOs to grow post launch since 2004.

To grow?

 

You do realise that from when darkfall was released the population just got smaller and smaller untill maybe it had a few 100 active players at the end..

 

DF:UW is doing exactly the same but faster.

http://steamcharts.com/app/227400#1y

 

of course not everyone plays via steam but it gives you a good idea.

 

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  Tibernicuspa

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2/06/14 10:12:08 AM#23
Originally posted by Caldrin
Originally posted by Tibernicuspa
Originally posted by IDontThinkSoNo
DarkFail is still around?

Thanks for trolling.

 

BUt its one of the only MMOs to grow post launch since 2004.

To grow?

 

You do realise that from when darkfall was released the population just got smaller and smaller untill maybe it had a few 100 active players at the end..

 

DF:UW is doing exactly the same but faster.

http://steamcharts.com/app/227400#1y

 

of course not everyone plays via steam but it gives you a good idea.

 

Aventurine grew from a company of 12 to a company of almost 50, opened a second server, several expansions, ect ect. Also population grew for a while in UW.

  Caldrin

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2/06/14 10:19:07 AM#24

they made most of their cash from military projects in Greece..

 

Opening a second server was a mistake, it split the population and made things worse.. i would not call any of those so called expansions anything other than some bug fixes and fun hulks :

 

Yeah UW did get a blip in population when released on steam.. but as you can see it did not last long. Also most of the vets from DF did not like the changes in UW and very few stuck around..

 

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  apocoluster

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2/06/14 11:25:57 AM#25

  Hey I played (and by played i

mean hid in the safe zones chopping wood) for a week it must have been awesome

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  Voiidiin

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2/06/14 11:31:41 AM#26

I thought this was gonna be a tongue in cheek thread like ....

Darkfall is better than...

Contracting AIDES.

Getting diagnosed with brain tumor.

Growing Risperdal boobs.

OH well i was hoping for the funny.

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  DarthRaiden

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2/06/14 3:57:56 PM#27
Originally posted by Badaboom


Darkfall is easily the best MMO on the market right now.  Its got almost everything I want in an MMO. 

1) Sub payment model-IMO this is still the best payment model. 

2) Boats

3) Combat

4) Accountability-Because you only have one character you can make a name for yourself for good or bad.

5) Connection to character-Because you only get one

6)  FFA

7) Full loot

8) Sieges

9) Non-instanced

10) Huge world

11) No tab target

12) Some pretty cool dungeons

13) Weather effects that affect gameplay

For me these are all reasons to love Darkfall.  I understand for others some of these features are reason not to like Darkfall.  Meh...to each their own.

 

First, not according to OP. According to OP DF:UW is just the 25th choice you should consider, there are 24 better games.

 

Secondly, DF:UW must doing something HORRIBLY wrong offering so much but having a almost non existinat population.

Think its not a full MMORPG anymore and whats worse it doesnt have the potential to become a MMORPG anymore, as hint for a explanation..

 

 

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  Lahuzer

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2/06/14 4:11:35 PM#28
These ratings is from peeps that went nuts when it was about to be released. Old DF fans rating it high as fudge. They then rage quit, and didn't bother lowering the score. This game is nothing but a failure I'm sad to say. I does have some potential, but with AV at the helm it will never take off. NEVER.
  Badaboom

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2/06/14 11:47:37 PM#29
Originally posted by DarthRaiden
Originally posted by Badaboom


Darkfall is easily the best MMO on the market right now.  Its got almost everything I want in an MMO. 

1) Sub payment model-IMO this is still the best payment model. 

2) Boats

3) Combat

4) Accountability-Because you only have one character you can make a name for yourself for good or bad.

5) Connection to character-Because you only get one

6)  FFA

7) Full loot

8) Sieges

9) Non-instanced

10) Huge world

11) No tab target

12) Some pretty cool dungeons

13) Weather effects that affect gameplay

For me these are all reasons to love Darkfall.  I understand for others some of these features are reason not to like Darkfall.  Meh...to each their own.

 

First, not according to OP. According to OP DF:UW is just the 25th choice you should consider, there are 24 better games.

 

Secondly, DF:UW must doing something HORRIBLY wrong offering so much but having a almost non existinat population.

Think its not a full MMORPG anymore and whats worse it doesnt have the potential to become a MMORPG anymore, as hint for a explanation..

 

 

Other than Darkfall I don't think anything is wrong with Darkfall as an MMORPG.  One thing I think scares people away is FFA full loot.  People who are bad that get killed and lose their stuff may quit.  These type of people always want to gain, not lose.  Go up the ladder, but don't look down.  This is ok with me as there are a lot of other games out  already for these people to play.  I think this type of model (Full loot) is fully sustainable...which Darkfall is evident of that fact.  

  DarthRaiden

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2/07/14 4:20:21 AM#30
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by DarthRaiden
Originally posted by Badaboom


Darkfall is easily the best MMO on the market right now.  Its got almost everything I want in an MMO. 

1) Sub payment model-IMO this is still the best payment model. 

2) Boats

3) Combat

4) Accountability-Because you only have one character you can make a name for yourself for good or bad.

5) Connection to character-Because you only get one

6)  FFA

7) Full loot

8) Sieges

9) Non-instanced

10) Huge world

11) No tab target

12) Some pretty cool dungeons

13) Weather effects that affect gameplay

For me these are all reasons to love Darkfall.  I understand for others some of these features are reason not to like Darkfall.  Meh...to each their own.

 

First, not according to OP. According to OP DF:UW is just the 25th choice you should consider, there are 24 better games.

 

Secondly, DF:UW must doing something HORRIBLY wrong offering so much but having a almost non existinat population.

Think its not a full MMORPG anymore and whats worse it doesnt have the potential to become a MMORPG anymore, as hint for a explanation..

 

 

Other than Darkfall I don't think anything is wrong with Darkfall as an MMORPG.  One thing I think scares people away is FFA full loot.  People who are bad that get killed and lose their stuff may quit.  These type of people always want to gain, not lose.  Go up the ladder, but don't look down.  This is ok with me as there are a lot of other games out  already for these people to play.  I think this type of model (Full loot) is fully sustainable...which Darkfall is evident of that fact.  

No, its not the full loot per se.

Here is some reason :

1) the loot is junk in DF:UW. (Lack of  complexity in crafting let you produce just junk and find junk items, also since everyone can craft everything everyone can produce the junk)

2) due to classes the lack of choices and freedom makes PvP not being a real MMORPG but more of the the type FPS with preloaded cklasses. (hence the lack of RPG)

Also its not skillbased, you dont have the freedom to choose which skill you want to use and invest into.

3)  there is no reason behind the PvP.  No RP (Role Play) since DF:UW turned off races and their conflict, no rogue play vs city militia since DF:UW turned off  alignement. Player holdings aren't valuable to PvP over.

PvP just fits the current mentality of the tiny playerbase PvP for sake of  PvP without any meaning.

That is just some reasons around combat that doesn't have to do with full loot but explain why DF:UW has just a tiny playerbase.

The list of reasons beside the PvP is even longer....

See EvE for reference, the potential playerbase for FULL LOOT games is 200k - 300k (even more since DF is a ground based game with medievel theme wich should be more popular).. f

Stop blaming full loot and support the game to become what it should have been from start ,..a full sandbox MMORPG like promised and described by AV for a decade.

 

 

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  emperorwings

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2/07/14 4:32:49 AM#31
Runescape classic wildy was the best pvp experience I've experienced.

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  Vapors

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Posts: 397

2/07/14 4:41:59 AM#32
How can Dark Fall be better then AoC unchained? I mean its "newer" but the graphic are really looking old in Dark Fall+ the combat looks bit clumsy for a pvp game. Does DF even offer long term pve fun?
  Holophonist

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2/07/14 4:51:28 PM#33
Originally posted by Vapors
How can Dark Fall be better then AoC unchained? I mean its "newer" but the graphic are really looking old in Dark Fall+ the combat looks bit clumsy for a pvp game. Does DF even offer long term pve fun?

What mmo has better pvp?

  Vapors

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2/08/14 1:23:57 PM#34
Originally posted by Holophonist
Originally posted by Vapors
How can Dark Fall be better then AoC unchained? I mean its "newer" but the graphic are really looking old in Dark Fall+ the combat looks bit clumsy for a pvp game. Does DF even offer long term pve fun?

What mmo has better pvp?

Imo AoC, but thats a personal view. Guess anyone has some diffrent thoughts on this.

  Holophonist

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2/09/14 8:41:32 PM#35
Originally posted by Vapors
Originally posted by Holophonist
Originally posted by Vapors
How can Dark Fall be better then AoC unchained? I mean its "newer" but the graphic are really looking old in Dark Fall+ the combat looks bit clumsy for a pvp game. Does DF even offer long term pve fun?

What mmo has better pvp?

Imo AoC, but thats a personal view. Guess anyone has some diffrent thoughts on this.

Isn't that a tab-targeting system? I'm just not sure how you can say DF is clumsy.

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