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  MikeB

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OP  1/31/14 12:00:39 PM#1

The Legacy of Kain series, with its two anti-heroes, Kain himself and Raziel, has been dormant since 2003. Psyonix takes the reins this time from central franchise developer Crystal Dynamics, in order to make a spinoff, albeit one that takes place within the series' land of Nosgoth. The game itself, called Nosgoth, is an upcoming free to play third-person competitive PvP game.

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  derek39

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i <3 MMO's

1/31/14 2:14:37 PM#2
I really want a new Soul Reaver.....

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  ohgodtherats707

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1/31/14 4:53:39 PM#3
Ive been a fan of the series since Blood omen. I would like to see a remake of Soul reaver but with all the stuff they left out like the persistent world to explore they intended on adding This picture already ruins my hopes for the Game series  Vae Victis In deed
  Grakulen

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1/31/14 6:14:51 PM#4
Originally posted by derek39
I really want a new Soul Reaver.....

I really want either a new Soul Reaver or a new Blood Omen.

 

This I do not want.

  Solar_Prophet

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1/31/14 6:15:46 PM#5

I got into the alpha for this, and I've yet to even bother playing it. Breaks my heart to see such an awesome IP with great (if a bit confusing ) lore turned into yet another MOBA in a market quickly becoming oversaturated with them.

Ah well. Gonna go pop my Soul Reaver soundtrack in for a listen.

Edit: I mean come on, people! Soul Reaver was one of the most revolutionary games of its time, and as far as I'm aware the first one to allow shifting between two worlds in real time! Completely blew my mind the first few times I did it.

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  clumsytoes44

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1/31/14 6:19:39 PM#6
What a way to rape an awesome ip. The only game in the series I didn't care for was blood omen 2, the rest are amazing.
  Margrave

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1/31/14 7:28:09 PM#7

This mmoba is an abomination of the memories of Kain!

 

I wouldn't touch this at all. PVP only gameplay?! No thank you.

 

Another installment in the series, or a well done reboot, but NOT this excuse of a Kain game.

 

Nosgoth deserves better than this!

 

I also would love another one in the same 'Zelda-style' as the first blood omen. Loved it being a dark Zelda of sorts. Playing a bada$$ vampire in that style was sweet!

 

BAH!

  clumsytoes44

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1/31/14 7:30:19 PM#8
I think a reboot of the original in 3d would be kinda cool, and I still play the original on my ps3. :)
  Solar_Prophet

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1/31/14 7:59:20 PM#9

I've been thinking about this, and it really pisses me off. Not the game itself really, but what will most likely happen with it. Chances are, it's going to fail (I may be wrong, just my opinion). If / when it does, the next time fans ask about LoK, the jackasses at whichever corporation is in charge of the IP will say, "We tried to revive the series, but Nosgoth's failure proves there's just not enough interest in it."

That thought really pisses me off. The future of the franchise more than likely hangs on the success or failure of a game which shares nothing with its predecessors other than a very loose connection with the setting.

They don't need to expand the fanbase. It's here already, and games similar to Soul Reaver such as Darksiders and Castlevania: Lords of Shadow have enough of a following that simply the mere promise of a game in that style would bring in new people, especially since Darksiders will most likely never be concluded. Give the fans of that game a new home in LoK, Lord knows the two have quite a bit in common.

So many big companies really are run by idiots.

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  Torvaldr

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2/01/14 1:05:28 PM#10
I agree, not a reboot, but a MOBA reskin. I would like to see what a new Nosgoth platformer would look like, not this.

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  Stizzled

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2/01/14 1:20:53 PM#11
Originally posted by Solar_Prophet

I've been thinking about this, and it really pisses me off. Not the game itself really, but what will most likely happen with it. Chances are, it's going to fail (I may be wrong, just my opinion). If / when it does, the next time fans ask about LoK, the jackasses at whichever corporation is in charge of the IP will say, "We tried to revive the series, but Nosgoth's failure proves there's just not enough interest in it."

That thought really pisses me off. The future of the franchise more than likely hangs on the success or failure of a game which shares nothing with its predecessors other than a very loose connection with the setting.

They don't need to expand the fanbase. It's here already, and games similar to Soul Reaver such as Darksiders and Castlevania: Lords of Shadow have enough of a following that simply the mere promise of a game in that style would bring in new people, especially since Darksiders will most likely never be concluded. Give the fans of that game a new home in LoK, Lord knows the two have quite a bit in common.

So many big companies really are run by idiots.

Sadly, I think your right. So many projects surrounding this IP have been cancelled. I think most people just have no clue what to do with it. The only person who could dig this IP out of it's hole is Amy Hennig. Amy is, as far as I'm concerned, the main force behind the LoK series. Without her directing the team and writing the story any new LoK game is bound to be a disappointment.

 

This Nosgoth game is simply the mutliplayer that remains from yet another failed attempt at creating another full installment to the series. Although, after reading what the game would have been about I'm not so sure that canceling it wasn't the right choice to make.

 

If this MOBA game fails, and it almost certainly will, then I also think it will finally take the IP down with it. Developers are already afraid to touch it, and for good reason. We fans expect a lot from this series because it's given us so much in the past. A game like this is really a slap in the face and nothing more than a final attempt to squeeze some money out of a dying IP and a desperate fan base.

  ohgodtherats707

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2/01/14 2:28:54 PM#12
The sad thing is I tried to find a way to buy the license I wanted to star working on a MMO set in the Relm of Nosgoth  When Kain  ruled as an empire. there would be 2 factions The great clans and the Sarafan. well maybe later down the road they will give up this failed Moba nonsence
  Scalpless

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2/02/14 9:09:37 AM#13

How's this a MOBA? Do people call all PvP games MOBAs nowadays? This seems more similar to Team Fortress than DotA.

While I would like a new LoK game, Tomb Raider has been great since Crystal Dynamics got it, so I'm satisfied enough with the current situation. Defiance was a decent finale, even though all LoK games after Soul Reaver 2 were a bit disappointing.

  rojoArcueid

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2/02/14 5:09:44 PM#14
Originally posted by Grakulen
Originally posted by derek39
I really want a new Soul Reaver.....

I really want either a new Soul Reaver or a new Blood Omen.

 

This I do not want.

completely agree. I played Nosgoth and i've been mourning the Legacy of Kain series ever since. One of my favorite franchises turned to ashes with this f2p game.

My endgame begins with character creation and ends with a new mmorpg

  Solar_Prophet

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2/02/14 5:25:07 PM#15
Originally posted by Scalpless

How's this a MOBA? Do people call all PvP games MOBAs nowadays? This seems more similar to Team Fortress than DotA.

While I would like a new LoK game, Tomb Raider has been great since Crystal Dynamics got it, so I'm satisfied enough with the current situation. Defiance was a decent finale, even though all LoK games after Soul Reaver 2 were a bit disappointing.

MOBA = Multiplayer Online Battle Arena. This game has multiple players, in an arena type setting, and you battle each other. Pretty straightforward.

LoK was merely the end of Raziel's story, and the true beginning of Kain's ability to carve a new destiny for himself and Nosgoth. His 'third option' had finally become fully viable, as Raziel's sacrifice allowed him to see the true puppet master whose machinations were leading everyone to their doom.

Or at least that's what I took from it. Let's face it, by the end of Defiance the timeline(s) were such a mess that they made the Legend of Zelda's look simplistic. It's a wonder the entire LoK universe didn't implode from all the paradoxes present.

Edit: Know what? Just go over to GOG.com and buy the whole series (sans Blood Omen 1) for under $20. You'll get a lot more enjoyment out of that as opposed to buying any of the borderline P2W crap in this game.

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  Langs78

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2/02/14 6:56:42 PM#16

how can you all say this game will fail if you have not tried it ?

 

is it because it is a pvp game and you want a single player game?

  cmstache

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2/02/14 9:23:54 PM#17
It's flat out ridiculous to judge this game if you haven't played it.  Psyonix and Square-Enix are both highly successful companies.  This game is NOT an MMO nor is it a MOBA.  It is an asymmetrical 3rd person shooter, which is highly original.  EVERY SINGLE published gameplay review has given it high marks.  And the game is very much NOT pay2win.  The entire design is set-up to keep it from being that way.   Try it before you knock it.