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  User Deleted
2/01/14 7:58:15 PM#21
Originally posted by Zapzap
Originally posted by djazzy
Originally posted by ReaperUk
A brave move considering how many bugs were around on the first day but it certainly shows they're confident of fixing things fairly quickly.

bugs in an early alpha? no way

You call a game 2-3 months from release early Alpha? What a joke.    Much more appropriate to call it open beta.  Unless you consider that it is likely the first year of Landmark after release will be Alpha quality as Landmark is likely just being made to hype EQN and for  an extra cash grab while they develop EQN. 

 

Open beta means anyone can get in without paying. At the most cynical its a closed paid beta.

Either way they have been honest about the state the game is in and what people should expect. What stage of pre-launch they call it after releasing all that information is kind of irrelevant isn't it?  Also they haven't set a release date, so it could be in closed beta for 6 months for all we know.  Some games have closed betas for close to a year,  ESO has been in closed beta for over 6 months now.

It is what it is, they said the game is still in early stages but you can pay to get in and help shape the game. If that interests you then go for it, if you want to wait until they have a polished product then do that and judge the game on its merits when they say its actually done and ready for mass consumption.

 

  Rommie10-284

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2/01/14 7:58:49 PM#22
Originally posted by Zapzap

You call a game 2-3 months from release early Alpha? What a joke.    Much more appropriate to call it open beta.  Unless you consider that it is likely the first year of Landmark after release will be Alpha quality as Landmark is likely just being made to hype EQN and for  an extra cash grab while they develop EQN. 

Now that the NDA is gone, you'll find out quickly that it's indeed an alpha crashity-mccrash unreliable piece of half-finished software.  It's barely playable at best.

However, I can't really dispute that if it's indeed 2-3 months from release, SOE has a megaton of work to do and not much history to suggest they can, so I can't get on your case about the cash grab.  I hope they realize if they need more time, they have to take it to get this right. We all know the history of releasing games because they have to, not because they're ready for live play, and what happens after that.

Smed and Co. are giving the *impression* they have "seen the light" and found a better way to do things, but I can't buy in until they actually put out a quality product.  There's plenty of time to fall back to old habits and wreck the project.

 

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  Howry

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2/01/14 7:59:02 PM#23

People who buy the settler pack get access to closed beta and recieve their items on March 31st. I assume March 31 will either be closed beta or release based on this?

 

https://www.eqnlandmark.com/founders-pack

 

 

  Ice-Queen

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2/01/14 8:00:44 PM#24
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
Something Bethesda-Zenimax could use as example.

I agree

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  User Deleted
2/01/14 8:02:18 PM#25
Originally posted by Howry

People who buy the settler pack get access to closed beta and recieve their items on March 31st. I assume March 31 will either be closed beta or release based on this?

 

https://www.eqnlandmark.com/founders-pack

 

 

 

It is exactly what it says it is, closed beta. Not release. After closed beta they will have an open beta, so 3 months would be a bare minimum expectation for launch, but closed beta could get dragged out much longer.

  Jyiiga

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2/01/14 8:03:55 PM#26

Close, rape, destroy and neglect countless other games! Lift and NDA on a new incomplete game and all is forgiven...

Some of you people... LOL

  Ikonis

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2/01/14 8:06:55 PM#27
Originally posted by Jyiiga

Close, rape, destroy and neglect countless other games! Lift and NDA on a new incomplete game and all is forgiven...

Some of you people... LOL

Deal with it.

  cheeseheads

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2/01/14 8:08:11 PM#28
Originally posted by Ikonis
Originally posted by Jyiiga

Close, rape, destroy and neglect countless other games! Lift and NDA on a new incomplete game and all is forgiven...

Some of you people... LOL

Deal with it.

 

  Rommie10-284

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2/01/14 8:09:30 PM#29

I can't wait to see the general reaction to this: you have harvest and craft the advanced design tools.

I'm torn between that's kinda cool and Really? but I suspect a bad reaction from the public at-large.  We'll see how it goes.

I'm surprised Smed lowered the NDA NOW since it's leaving them wide open to a backlash, since the game is so unstable.  But I'll give SOE credit for doing so, as this should be an interesting experiment in customer feedback getting listened to so early in the development process.  I hope it's successful, as a CF will guarantee it'll never happen again.

It does also lob a serve at Zenimax - will they let it go by or return it by dropping the ESO NDA?

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  ReaperUk

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2/01/14 8:10:57 PM#30
Originally posted by Howry

People who buy the settler pack get access to closed beta and recieve their items on March 31st. I assume March 31 will either be closed beta or release based on this?

 

https://www.eqnlandmark.com/founders-pack

 

 

That's just the start of closed beta. We don't know how long it will last and then there's likely to be an open beta after that I'd have thought. People talking about the game being released in two or three months time are talking out of their backsides. It's likely to be nearer the end of the year than the beginning.

  User Deleted
2/01/14 8:21:15 PM#31
  Ikeda

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2/01/14 8:27:10 PM#32
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.  Sheesh.  Atleast he's TRYING to be semi-transparent.  Just a day or two ago people were whining cause devs were HIDING behind NDAs.  Now people are complaining that an ALPHA doesn't play all that great.  What are these people?  Complete n00bs?

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  Octagon7711

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Devs please nerf paper it's overpowered I'm rock which is fine scissors are fine.

2/01/14 8:31:34 PM#33
Originally posted by Volgore
THIS is how you do it, Zenimax.

+1

  gorro187

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2/01/14 8:32:47 PM#34
Anyone who complains about the issue's in Alpha clearly doesn't know the purpose of a Alpha or the state of Alpha's. They at best are just game hopper's who want to play it in whatever state as quickly as possible. Then act like they are expert's in the game of choice.
  User Deleted
2/01/14 8:36:32 PM#35
Originally posted by gorro187
Anyone who complains about the issue's in Alpha clearly doesn't know the purpose of a Alpha or the state of Alpha's. They at best are just game hopper's who want to play it in whatever state as quickly as possible. Then act like they are expert's in the game of choice.

 

Well the good news is that they can get a complete refund if they don't think the game is amazing and don't want to continue participating in the Alpha.  I guarantee they wont see any money back from a certain other game with its NDA still up that is due in April.

  CazNeerg

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2/01/14 9:06:47 PM#36
Originally posted by Zapzap

You call a game 2-3 months from release early Alpha? What a joke.    Much more appropriate to call it open beta.  Unless you consider that it is likely the first year of Landmark after release will be Alpha quality as Landmark is likely just being made to hype EQN and for  an extra cash grab while they develop EQN. 

It is definitely not anywhere close to being open beta ready.  And it's roughly two months before the *closed* beta is even scheduled to start.

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  ElRenmazuo

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2/01/14 9:17:33 PM#37
Let me know when the actual game has lifted its nda
  Jean-Luc_Picard

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2/02/14 5:33:26 AM#38
Originally posted by cheeseheads
Originally posted by Volgore
THIS is how you do it, Zenimax.

sadly they wont release there nda cause it will chase away people.  Smedley has nothing to hide so he opens his

And Smedley is right. The millions of Minecraft players who never played an MMORPG (and mostly not even knowing what it is) will see the youtube fan movies of Landmark and flock to the game since it's Minecraft on steroids.

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  syriinx

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2/02/14 8:21:31 AM#39
Originally posted by Jyiiga

Close, rape, destroy and neglect countless other games! Lift and NDA on a new incomplete game and all is forgiven...

Some of you people... LOL

Many of us have common sense and can think for ourselves.  We know that the NGE was 7 or 8 years ago and LA was largely responsible for it.  We know that Vanguard never would have released if not for SoE and that SoE definitely tried to fix Sigils mess, but nobody played.  So they stopped working on it but kept it running an extra 5+ years than nay other company would have.

If you havent got past NGE by this point, fine, but its really time to shut the hell up about it.  If you think SoE is the reason for Vanguard's failure than you probably haven't got past the NGE yet either.  So also, its time to shut the hell up about it.  

There are threads to whine about SoE, go post there.

  Nadia

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2/02/14 10:07:17 AM#40
Originally posted by evilastro

It is what it is, they said the game is still in early stages but you can pay to get in and help shape the game.

If that interests you then go for it,

if you want to wait until they have a polished product then do that  - and judge the game on its merits when they say its actually done and ready for mass consumption.

good summary

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