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  Iselin

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OP  1/31/14 2:27:20 PM#1

http://elderscrollsonline.com/en/news/post/2014/01/31/ask-us-anything-variety-pack-12

 

Do people who order the Imperial Edition gain a big gameplay advantage over those who don’t? 

No. With the Imperial Edition you get the opportunity to play as a rogue Imperial who has broken from their Daedra worshipping ways, and you get a unique racial skill line of equal gameplay impact to other races’ unique racial skill lines. As an Imperial you also get a mount and the automatic ability to craft items into the Imperial style. All non-Imperial races can also learn this ability after locating the corresponding racial motif.

Imperials do not begin the game in a unique starting location or via a separate quest, but they can start in any alliance as befits their status as un-aligned outcasts of their own Province. Being an Imperial includes a racial skill line that offers unique gameplay opportunities, but there is not an overall gameplay advantage. It is an opportunity to set yourself visually apart in the lands of Tamriel.

Gameplay benefits within this edition have been designed to avoid bestowing unfair advantages over players who do not purchase this special edition. This is cool content designed for some of our biggest fans who wish to have something different from other collector’s editions in the market. The only other alternative would have been to offer a collector’s edition that offers no in-game items whatsoever. That simply didn’t seem fair to fans who are excited about the game and want some special digital items.

 

Does the Imperial Horse have better stats than other horses in the game? 

No. The Imperial Horse that allows you to "travel with speed through Tamriel" travels at the same speed as other horses found within the game. Its stats are identical to the stats of other horses in the game, too.

  CazNeerg

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1/31/14 2:39:40 PM#2
All seems like things common sense would tell people just from reading the list of included items.  Sad that they felt the need to "clarify" the obvious.

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  Cougan

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1/31/14 2:58:03 PM#3
Doesnt sound unreasonable
  Reymas

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1/31/14 3:21:06 PM#4
How was this ever in question?  This is a no-brainer.
  Azaron_Nightblade

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1/31/14 3:25:55 PM#5
Originally posted by CazNeerg
All seems like things common sense would tell people just from reading the list of included items.  Sad that they felt the need to "clarify" the obvious.

And that clarification will likely fall on deaf ears anyway among those who are set on raging.

Thanks for the quotes and link!

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  drivendawn

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1/31/14 3:59:59 PM#6
Originally posted by Azaron_Nightblade
Originally posted by CazNeerg
All seems like things common sense would tell people just from reading the list of included items.  Sad that they felt the need to "clarify" the obvious.

And that clarification will likely fall on deaf ears anyway among those who are set on raging.

Thanks for the quotes and link!

Yeah a lot of the people raging were not going to play anyway.

  greenreen

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1/31/14 4:03:30 PM#7
Beautiful. Thanks for the info.
  User Deleted
1/31/14 4:09:25 PM#8
Most games set out to have racial balance, but that is rarely ever the case.  We won't know how the Imperial ultimate and passives stack up against the others until they release that information and drop the NDA.
  baphamet

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1/31/14 4:49:59 PM#9

i pretty much figured they wouldn't make the imperial racials more powerful like so many here insisted.

its reasons like that, that make me ignore the complainers when it comes to rumors and speculation.

i still wish they would have said if you can roll an imperial during the head start.

i will be an orc regardless but it would still be nice to know for the people that want to play an imperial.

  smokeybha

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1/31/14 5:11:07 PM#10
So I wonder if you get a horse per character and if you have to be imperial to get the mount.
  MoLoK_

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1/31/14 5:54:12 PM#11

From the Q&A about the CE:

"This is cool content designed for some of our biggest fans"

 

From an interview with Matt Firor aug 2013:

Firor said that the subscription fee fits the sense of an open world that other pay models can't, and that a fee will let players "go where they want, be who they want and do what they want."

The thought process is, "We feel that putting pay gates between the player and the content at any point in-game ruins that feeling of freedom."

 

Only "the biggest fans" will get that freedom I guess... Pull up that creditcard folks! Heres montly fee AND cash shop! Total freedom!

  Iselin

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OP  1/31/14 5:54:34 PM#12
Originally posted by smokeybha
So I wonder if you get a horse per character and if you have to be imperial to get the mount.

I only know of two ways of getting horses: the one you get from the CE and every character you make will get it and buying one for each character in the game... there may be quests or horse loot drops as well but I don't know for sure. You also will probably want 2 or 3 of them....

 

This is a copy/paste from an old Gamescon interview with Maria Alprando, one of the Devs - she's the Creature Designer as I recall:

 

Q: Can you give us more details about the mounts?
A: They are all Horses. When you get a mount, and you can have multiple horses, you have to feed the horse every day. Depending on what you feed the horse, the horse will either get faster or it will be able to carry more inventory, you will get more inventory space, because you have a pack horse now … or you will be able to have a combat warhorse that would be resistant to caltrops, and getting knocked off your horse and things like that.

Q: Can the horse die?
A: The horse will not die, but you will get dismounted from the horse. We’re also working on naming horses. You can have multiple different horses, so if you want three different type of horses, like, this is my adventuring horse, this is my pvp horse, this is my speed horse, you can only have one with you. And you have to go to the stables in order to change your horses. Either you have to go to the town or in Cyrodiil you have to go to your base.
 
Q: So you can’t just spawn it right there?
A: No, you can’t just spawn a different mount wherever. You can’t just have all of them with you at once. Horse will change appearance as you feed it as well. So warhorses look different from pack horses.
 
Q: How do you feed it? You craft or…?
A: You go to the stable and you talk with stable master, and the stable master asks what do you want to feed your horse. And you say I want to feed him apples, carrots or something else. You can look at somebody’s horse and see if they have armor on the horse, or a special saddle packs on it and differentiate what kind of horse it is.
 
Q: How do you get mounts? Do you just buy them?
A: There is no level restriction, it is just pure cost. Right now it is 15 000 gold.
 
Q: Which is something that you can get in 5 levels?
A: The last time I bought a horse I got it at level 11, but I grind-ed the gold for it. But you could just have your friend give you the gold, and you have a horse. It might be an issue for the first few days and afterwards everyone will be able to have one quickly. The horse you get is just a horse, you have to feed it to make it more usable. The gold is just a barrier to get a horse, and then you can buy multiples if you want to.

 

Edit: Here's the whole interview if you want to read it: http://teso.mmorpg-life.com/eso-interview-with-maria-aliprando/

  superconducting

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1/31/14 7:00:55 PM#13

See.

All that hoopla for nothing.

Imperial edition offers NO MATERIAL ADVANTAGE over standard edition.

Everything is either the same stats or can be obtained through other means.

 

(...waits eagerly for badass Molag Bal statue...)

  squalleonaha

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1/31/14 7:34:06 PM#14
Originally posted by Iselin

http://elderscrollsonline.com/en/news/post/2014/01/31/ask-us-anything-variety-pack-12

 

Do people who order the Imperial Edition gain a big gameplay advantage over those who don’t? 

No. With the Imperial Edition you get the opportunity to play as a rogue Imperial who has broken from their Daedra worshipping ways, and you get a unique racial skill line of equal gameplay impact to other races’ unique racial skill lines. As an Imperial you also get a mount and the automatic ability to craft items into the Imperial style. All non-Imperial races can also learn this ability after locating the corresponding racial motif.

Imperials do not begin the game in a unique starting location or via a separate quest, but they can start in any alliance as befits their status as un-aligned outcasts of their own Province. Being an Imperial includes a racial skill line that offers unique gameplay opportunities, but there is not an overall gameplay advantage. It is an opportunity to set yourself visually apart in the lands of Tamriel.

Gameplay benefits within this edition have been designed to avoid bestowing unfair advantages over players who do not purchase this special edition. This is cool content designed for some of our biggest fans who wish to have something different from other collector’s editions in the market. The only other alternative would have been to offer a collector’s edition that offers no in-game items whatsoever. That simply didn’t seem fair to fans who are excited about the game and want some special digital items.

 

Does the Imperial Horse have better stats than other horses in the game? 

No. The Imperial Horse that allows you to "travel with speed through Tamriel" travels at the same speed as other horses found within the game. Its stats are identical to the stats of other horses in the game, too.

all the question here doesnt answer the rage people have. its about SELLING A RACE exclusive to people to open their wallet with NDA still on. PEOPLE who wont preorder WILL not have ACCESS to that RACE. and so does people come to game later.

as for advantage, of course they have to make ALL CLASS/RACE BALANCE FOR PVP. asking an exclusive race have advantage than other race in a game with pvp is kind of stupid. of course THEY WILL SAY NO AND THEY HAVE TO MAKE THEM BALANCE.

  squalleonaha

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1/31/14 7:56:21 PM#15

This is what game director Matt Firor said at gamecon 2013 when he dfending sub fee:

" When you're in an Elder Scrolls game, you're in a world. We don't want players to hit monetization fees when they're in the world. It's like, I go into a dungeon, if I don't have access to the dungeon it pops up a window: you don't have access to this, go buy 50 credits. We didn't want that experience. That's not anElder Scrolls experience."

"Firor believes charging a monthly subscription ensures players have "100% of the game" and never run into payment walls"

 

and what happen? if you dont PAY for CE or PREORDER, you wont get to play imperial. and this is a RACE , not a cash shop COSMETIC.

 

source: http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/08/22/gamescom-2013-the-elder-scrolls-online-subscription-ensures-pla/

  Stimz

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1/31/14 8:04:09 PM#16
Originally posted by squalleonaha
Originally posted by Iselin

http://elderscrollsonline.com/en/news/post/2014/01/31/ask-us-anything-variety-pack-12

 

Do people who order the Imperial Edition gain a big gameplay advantage over those who don’t? 

No. With the Imperial Edition you get the opportunity to play as a rogue Imperial who has broken from their Daedra worshipping ways, and you get a unique racial skill line of equal gameplay impact to other races’ unique racial skill lines. As an Imperial you also get a mount and the automatic ability to craft items into the Imperial style. All non-Imperial races can also learn this ability after locating the corresponding racial motif.

Imperials do not begin the game in a unique starting location or via a separate quest, but they can start in any alliance as befits their status as un-aligned outcasts of their own Province. Being an Imperial includes a racial skill line that offers unique gameplay opportunities, but there is not an overall gameplay advantage. It is an opportunity to set yourself visually apart in the lands of Tamriel.

Gameplay benefits within this edition have been designed to avoid bestowing unfair advantages over players who do not purchase this special edition. This is cool content designed for some of our biggest fans who wish to have something different from other collector’s editions in the market. The only other alternative would have been to offer a collector’s edition that offers no in-game items whatsoever. That simply didn’t seem fair to fans who are excited about the game and want some special digital items.

 

Does the Imperial Horse have better stats than other horses in the game? 

No. The Imperial Horse that allows you to "travel with speed through Tamriel" travels at the same speed as other horses found within the game. Its stats are identical to the stats of other horses in the game, too.

all the question here doesnt answer the rage people have. its about SELLING A RACE exclusive to people to open their wallet with NDA still on. PEOPLE who wont preorder WILL not have ACCESS to that RACE. and so does people come to game later.

as for advantage, of course they have to make ALL CLASS/RACE BALANCE FOR PVP. asking an exclusive race have advantage than other race in a game with pvp is kind of stupid. of course THEY WILL SAY NO AND THEY HAVE TO MAKE THEM BALANCE.

Except, you can upgrade to CE any time after release, so the pre-order part isnt true, anyone that ever gets the game van have imperial, if they so choose.

  Torvaldr

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1/31/14 8:05:18 PM#17

I emailed support and asked if you could upgrade (purchase) the racial unlock to be able to play any race on your faction even if you don't pre-order. The answer is yes you can upgrade to do that. You can't get the pre-order "Explorer Pack" though. That is exclusive to pre-order and includes that unlock, however you can buy the unlock in the cash shop after launch.

That is hopefully good news to some who would rather wait to see how the game works out after launch instead of pre-ordering.

  baphamet

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1/31/14 8:05:41 PM#18


Originally posted by squalleonaha

Originally posted by Iselin http://elderscrollsonline.com/en/news/post/2014/01/31/ask-us-anything-variety-pack-12   Do people who order the Imperial Edition gain a big gameplay advantage over those who don’t?  No. With the Imperial Edition you get the opportunity to play as a rogue Imperial who has broken from their Daedra worshipping ways, and you get a unique racial skill line of equal gameplay impact to other races’ unique racial skill lines. As an Imperial you also get a mount and the automatic ability to craft items into the Imperial style. All non-Imperial races can also learn this ability after locating the corresponding racial motif. Imperials do not begin the game in a unique starting location or via a separate quest, but they can start in any alliance as befits their status as un-aligned outcasts of their own Province. Being an Imperial includes a racial skill line that offers unique gameplay opportunities, but there is not an overall gameplay advantage. It is an opportunity to set yourself visually apart in the lands of Tamriel. Gameplay benefits within this edition have been designed to avoid bestowing unfair advantages over players who do not purchase this special edition. This is cool content designed for some of our biggest fans who wish to have something different from other collector’s editions in the market. The only other alternative would have been to offer a collector’s edition that offers no in-game items whatsoever. That simply didn’t seem fair to fans who are excited about the game and want some special digital items.   Does the Imperial Horse have better stats than other horses in the game?  No. The Imperial Horse that allows you to "travel with speed through Tamriel" travels at the same speed as other horses found within the game. Its stats are identical to the stats of other horses in the game, too.
all the question here doesnt answer the rage people have. its about SELLING A RACE exclusive to people to open their wallet with NDA still on. PEOPLE who wont preorder WILL not have ACCESS to that RACE. and so does people come to game later.

as for advantage, of course they have to make ALL CLASS/RACE BALANCE FOR PVP. asking an exclusive race have advantage than other race in a game with pvp is kind of stupid. of course THEY WILL SAY NO AND THEY HAVE TO MAKE THEM BALANCE.


you can still pre-order once the NDA comes off and people rage over this game regardless, big fucking deal.

  squalleonaha

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1/31/14 8:06:53 PM#19
Originally posted by Stimz
Originally posted by squalleonaha
Originally posted by Iselin

http://elderscrollsonline.com/en/news/post/2014/01/31/ask-us-anything-variety-pack-12

 

Do people who order the Imperial Edition gain a big gameplay advantage over those who don’t? 

No. With the Imperial Edition you get the opportunity to play as a rogue Imperial who has broken from their Daedra worshipping ways, and you get a unique racial skill line of equal gameplay impact to other races’ unique racial skill lines. As an Imperial you also get a mount and the automatic ability to craft items into the Imperial style. All non-Imperial races can also learn this ability after locating the corresponding racial motif.

Imperials do not begin the game in a unique starting location or via a separate quest, but they can start in any alliance as befits their status as un-aligned outcasts of their own Province. Being an Imperial includes a racial skill line that offers unique gameplay opportunities, but there is not an overall gameplay advantage. It is an opportunity to set yourself visually apart in the lands of Tamriel.

Gameplay benefits within this edition have been designed to avoid bestowing unfair advantages over players who do not purchase this special edition. This is cool content designed for some of our biggest fans who wish to have something different from other collector’s editions in the market. The only other alternative would have been to offer a collector’s edition that offers no in-game items whatsoever. That simply didn’t seem fair to fans who are excited about the game and want some special digital items.

 

Does the Imperial Horse have better stats than other horses in the game? 

No. The Imperial Horse that allows you to "travel with speed through Tamriel" travels at the same speed as other horses found within the game. Its stats are identical to the stats of other horses in the game, too.

all the question here doesnt answer the rage people have. its about SELLING A RACE exclusive to people to open their wallet with NDA still on. PEOPLE who wont preorder WILL not have ACCESS to that RACE. and so does people come to game later.

as for advantage, of course they have to make ALL CLASS/RACE BALANCE FOR PVP. asking an exclusive race have advantage than other race in a game with pvp is kind of stupid. of course THEY WILL SAY NO AND THEY HAVE TO MAKE THEM BALANCE.

Except, you can upgrade to CE any time after release, so the pre-order part isnt true, anyone that ever gets the game van have imperial, if they so choose.

so what you mean a RACE is cosmetic thing that you can buy? if it not then where is the 100% of the game they promised with sub fee?

  SonOfValmar

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1/31/14 8:07:46 PM#20

I would say that if buying the CE allows you to obtain the horse in game without having to go through the avenue of purchasing one with in-game gold (or spending any gold on training to ride it) then that can be seen as obtaining an advantage over others in the game who did not purchase the same package. Having one less gold sink in the game your character has to overcome is an advantage for a player if they chose to spend the real life monies to purchase the Imperial package.

 

This train of thought is, of course, subject to alteration should there be other ways to obtain mounts in game that are not reliant upon spending your gold. Also, if the gold sink from horses comes from having to purchase the ability to ride them, and not purchasing the horse itself, then having the Imperial Horse is less of an advantage if those who own the CE package have to also purchase the ability to ride.

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