Trending Games | Star Wars: The Old Republic | Elder Scrolls Online | ArcheAge | Marvel Heroes

  Network:  FPSguru RTSguru
Login:  Password:   Remember?  
Show Quick Gamelist Jump to Random Game
Members:2,921,833 Users Online:0
Games:760  Posts:6,314,606
Recent forum postsRSS
Active threads
Cloud view
List all forums
General Forums
Developers Corner General Discussion
Popular Game Forums
Click a status to find game forum
Game Forums
Click a letter to find game forum
A-C
2029 Online 2112: Revolution 2Moons 4Story 8BitMMO 9 Dragons A Mystical Land A Tale in the Desert III A3 ACE Online ARGO Online Aberoth Absolute Force Online Absolute Terror Achaea Adellion Aerrevan Aetolia, the Midnight Age Age of Armor Age of Conan Age of Empires Online Age of Mourning Age of Wulin Age of Wushu Aida Arenas Aika Aion Albion Online Alganon All Points Bulletin (APB) Allods Online Altis Gates Amazing World Anarchy Online Ancients of Fasaria Andromeda 5 Angels Online Angry Birds Epic Anime Ninja Anime Pirates Anime Trumps Anmynor Anno Online Applo Arcane Hearts Arcane Legends ArchLord ArcheAge Archeblade Archlord X Ascend: Hand of Kul Asda 2 Asda Story Ashen Empires Asheron's Call Asheron's Call 2 Astera Online Astonia III Astro Empires Astro Lords: Oort CLoud Asura Force Atlantica Online Atriarch Aura Kingdom Aurora Blade Auto Assault Avatar Star Battle Dawn Battle Dawn Galaxies Battle for Graxia Battle of 3 Kingdoms Battle of the Immortals Battlecruiser Online Battlestar Galactica Online Battlestar Reloaded Beyond Protocol Black Aftermath Black Desert Black Gold Black Prophecy Black Prophecy Tactics: Nexus Conflict Blacklight Retribution Blade & Soul Blade Hunter Blade Wars Blazing Throne Bless Blitz 1941 Blood and Jade Bloodlines Champions Boot Hill Heroes Borderlands 2 Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel Bound by Flame Bounty Bay Online Brain Storm Bravada Bravely Default Bravely Second Brawl Busters. Brick-Force Bright Shadow Bullet Run Business Tycoon Online CTRacer Cabal Online Caesary Call of Camelot Call of Gods Call of Thrones Camelot Unchained Canaan Online Cardmon Hero Cartoon Universe CasinoRPG Cast & Conquer Castle Empire Castlot Celtic Heroes Champions Online Champions of Regnum Chaos Online Child of Light Chrono Tales Citadel of Sorcery CitiesXL Citizen Zero City of Decay City of Heroes City of Steam City of Transformers City of Villains Civilization Online Clan Lord Clash of Clans Cloud Nine Club Penguin Colony of War Command & Conquer: Tiberium Alliances Company of Heroes Online Conquer Online Conquer Online 3 Continent of the Ninth (C9) Core Blaze Core Exiles Corum Online Craft of Gods Crimecraft Crimelife 2 Cronous Crota II Crusaders of Solaris Cultures Online Cyber Monster 2 Cyberpunk 2077 Céiron Wars
D-F
D&D Online DC Universe DK Online DOTA DOTA 2 DUST 514 DV8: Exile Dalethaan Dance Groove Online Dark Age of Camelot Dark Ages Dark Legends Dark Orbit Dark Relic: Prelude Dark Solstice Dark Souls 2 Dark and Light DarkEden Online DarkSpace Darkblood Online Darkest Dungeon Darkfall Darkfall: Unholy Wars Darkwind: War on Wheels Das Tal Dawn of Fantasy Dawntide DayZ Dead Earth Dead Frontier Dead Island Dead Island 2 Dead Island: Riptide Deco Online Deep Down Deepworld Defiance Deicide Online Dekaron Demons at the Horizon Desert Operations Destiny Diablo 3 Diamonin Digimon Battle Dino Storm Disciple Divergence Divina Divine Souls Divinity: Original Sin Dofus Dominus Online Dragon Age: Inquisition Dragon Ball Online Dragon Born Online Dragon Crusade Dragon Empires Dragon Eternity Dragon Fin Soup Dragon Nest Dragon Oath Dragon Pals Dragon Raja Dragon's Call Dragon's Call II Dragon's Prophet DragonSky DragonSoul Dragona Dragonica Dragons and Titans Drakengard 3 Dream of Mirror Online Dreamland Online Dreamlords: The Reawakening Drift City Duels Dungeon Blitz Dungeon Fighter Online Dungeon Overlord Dungeon Party Dungeon Rampage Dungeon Runners Dungeon of the Endless Dynastica Dynasty Warriors Online Dynasty of the Magi EIN (Epicus Incognitus) EVE Online Earth Eternal Earth and Beyond Earthrise Eclipse War Ecol Tactics Online Eden Eternal Edge of Space Einherjar - The Viking's Blood Elder Scrolls Online Eldevin Elf Online Elite: Dangerous Embers of Caerus Emil Chronicle Online Empire Empire & State Empire Craft Empire Universe 3 EmpireQuest Empires of Galldon End of Nations Endless Ages Endless Blue Moon Online Endless Online Entropia Universe EpicDuel Erebus: Travia Reborn Eredan Eternal Blade Eternal Lands Eternal Saga Ether Fields Ether Saga Online Eudemons Online EuroGangster EverEmber Online EverQuest Next EverQuest Online Adventures Evernight Everquest Everquest II Evony Exarch Exorace F.E.A.R. Online Face of Mankind Fairyland Online Fall of Rome Fallen Earth Fallen Sword Fallout 4 Fallout Online Family Guy Online Fantage Fantasy Earth Zero Fantasy Realm Online Fantasy Tales Online Fantasy Worlds: Rhynn Faunasphere Faxion Online Fearless Fantasy Ferentus Ferion Fiesta Online Final Fantasy Type-0 HD Final Fantasy XI Final Fantasy XIV Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn Firefall Fists of Fu Florensia Flyff Football Manager Live Football Superstars Force of Arms Forge Forsaken Uprising Forsaken World Fortnite Fortuna Forum for Discussion of Everlight Freaky Creatures Free Realms Freesky Online Freeworld Fung Wan Online Furcadia Fury Fusion Fall
G-L
GalaXseeds Galactic Command Online Game of Thrones: Seven Kingdoms Gameglobe Gate To Heavens Gates of Andaron Gatheryn Gauntlet Gekkeiju Online Ghost Online Ghost Recon Online Gladiatus Glitch Global Agenda Global Soccer Gloria Victis Glory of Gods GoGoRacer Goal Line Blitz Gods and Heroes GodsWar Online Golemizer Golf Star GoonZu Online Graal Kingdoms Granado Espada Online Grand Chase Grand Fantasia Grepolis Grimlands Guild Wars Guild Wars 2 Guild Wars Factions Guild Wars Nightfall H1Z1 Habbo Hotel Hailan Rising HaloSphere2 Haven & Hearth Hawken Heart Forth Alicia Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft Helbreath Hellgate Hellgate: London Hello Kitty Online Hero Online Hero Zero Hero's Journey Hero: 108 Online HeroSmash Heroes & Generals Heroes & Legends: Conquerors of Kolhar Heroes in the Sky Heroes of Atlan Heroes of Bestia Heroes of Gaia Heroes of Might and Magic Online Heroes of Thessalonica Heroes of Three Kingdoms Heroes of the Storm Hex Holic Online Hostile Space Hunter Blade Huxley Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition Illutia Illyriad Immortals USA Imperator Imperian Inferno Legend Infestation: Survivor Stories Infinite Crisis Infinity Infinity Iris Online Iron Grip: Marauders Irth Worlds Island Forge Islands of War Istaria: Chronicles of the Gifted Jade Dynasty Jagged Alliance Online Juggernaut Jumpgate Jumpgate Evolution KAL Online Kakele Online Kaos War Karos Online Kartuga Kicks Online King of Kings 3 Kingdom Heroes Kingdom Under Fire II Kingdom of Drakkar Kingory Kings Era Kings and Legends Kings of the Realm KingsRoad Kitsu Saga Kiwarriors Knight Age Knight Online Knights of Dream City Kothuria Kung Foo! Kunlun Online Kyn L.A.W. LEGO Universe La Tale Land of Chaos Online Landmark Lands of Hope: Redemption LastChaos League of Angels League of Legends - Clash of Fates Legend of Edda: Vengeance Legend of Golden Plume Legend of Grimrock 2 Legend of Katha Legend of Mir 2 Legend of Mir 3 Legendary Champions Lego Minifigures Online Lichdom: Battlemage Life is Feudal Light of Nova Lime Odyssey Line of Defense Lineage Lineage Eternal: Twilight Resistance Lineage II Linkrealms Loong Online Lord of the Rings Online Lords Online Lords of the Fallen Lost Saga Lucent Heart Lunia Lusternia: Age of Ascension Luvinia World
M-Q
MU Online Mabinogi Maestia: Rise of Keledus MagiKnights Magic Barrage Magic World Online Manga Fighter MapleStory Martial Heroes Marvel Heroes Marvel Super Hero Squad Online Marvel: Avengers Alliance Mass Effect 4 MechWarrior Online Megaten Meridian 59 : Evolution Merlin MetalMercs Metaplace Metin 2 MicroVolts Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor Midkemia Online Might & Magic Heroes: Kingdoms Might & Magic X: Legacy MilMo Minecraft Mini Fighter Minions of Mirth Ministry of War Monato Esprit Monkey King Online Monkey Quest Monster & Me Monster Madness Online MonsterMMORPG Moonlight Online: Tales of Eternal Blood Moonrise Mordavia Mortal Online Mourning My Lands Myst Online: URU Live Myth Angels Online Myth War Myth War 2 Mythborne Mytheon Mythic Saga Mythos N.E.O Online NIDA Online Nadirim Naviage: The Power of Capital Navy Field Need for Speed World Nemexia Neo's Land NeoSteam Neocron Nether Neverwinter Nexus: The Kingdom Of The Winds NinjaTrick NosTale Novus Aeterno Oberin Odin Quest Odyssey RPG Ogre Island Omerta 3 Online Boxing Manager Onverse Oort Online Order & Chaos Online Order of Magic Original Blood Origins Return Origins of Malu Orion's Belt Otherland Forums OverSoul Overkings Overwatch Oz Online Oz World Pandora Saga Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen Panzar Parabellum Parallel Kingdom Parfait Station Path of Exile Pathfinder Online Perfect World Perpetuum Online Persona V Phantasy Star Online 2 Phantasy Star Universe Phoenix Dynasty Online Phylon Pi Story Picaroon Pillars of Eternity Pirate Galaxy Pirate Storm Pirate101 PirateKing Online Pirates of the Burning Sea Pirates of the Caribbean Online Pixie Hollow Planeshift Planet Arkadia Planet Calypso PlanetSide 2 Planetside Planets³ Playboy Manager Pocket Legends Pockie Ninja Pockie Pirates Pockie Saints Pokémon X and Y PoxNora Prime World Prime: Battle for Dominus Priston Tale Priston Tale II Prius Online Prodigy Project Blackout Project Gorgon Project Powder Project Titan Forums Project Wiki Project Zomboid Puzzle Pirates Quest for Infamy Quickhit Football
R-S
R2 Online RAN Online RF Online ROSE Online Rage of 3 Kingdoms Ragnarok Online Ragnarok Online II RaiderZ Rail Nation Rakion Rappelz RappelzSEA Ravenmarch Realm Fighter Realm of Sierra Realm of the Mad God Realm of the Titans Realms Online Rebel Galaxy Reclamation Red Stone Red War: Edem's Curse Regnum Online Remnant Knights Renaissance Repulse Requiem: Memento Mori Rift RiotZone Rise Rise of Dragonian Era Rise of Empire Rise of the Tycoon Risen 3: Titan Lords Rising of King Risk Your Life Rivality Rockfree Rohan: Blood Feud Role Play Worlds Roll n Rock Roma Victor Romadoria Rosh Online Roto X Rubies of Eventide Ruin Online Rumble Fighter Runes of Magic Runescape Rust Rusty Hearts Ryzom S4 League SAGA SD Gundam Capsule Fighter Online SMITE SUN Sacred 3 Sagramore Salem SaySayGirls Scarlet Blade Scions of Fate Seal Online: Evolution Second Chance Heroes Second Life Secret of the Solstice Seed Serenia Fantasy Seven Seas Saga Seven Souls Online Sevencore Shadow Realms Shadow of Legend Shadowbane Shadowgate Shadowrun Online Shaiya Shards Online Shattered Galaxy Sho Online Shot Online Shroud of the Avatar SideQuest Siege on Stars Sigonyth: Desert Eternity Silkroad Online Skyblade Skyforge SmashMuck Champions Smoo Online Soldier Front Soul Master Soul Order Online Soul of Guardian South Park: The Stick of Truth Space Heroes Universe Sparta: War of Empires Spellcasters Sphere Spiral Knights Spirit Tales Splash Fighters Squad Wars Star Citizen Star Conflict Star Sonata 2 Star Stable Star Supremacy Star Trek Online Star Trek: Infinite Space Star Wars Galaxies Star Wars: Clone Wars Adventures Star Wars: The Old Republic StarQuest Online Starbound Stargate Worlds Starlight Story Starpires State of Decay SteelWar Online Stone Age 2 Stormfall: Age of War Stormthrone Storybricks Stronghold Kingdoms Styx: Master of Shadows Sudden Attack Supremacy 1914 Supreme Destiny Sword Girls Sword of Destiny: Rise of Aions SwordX Swords of Heavens Swordsman
T-Z
TERA TS Online TUG Tabula Rasa Tactica Online Tales Runner Tales of Fantasy Tales of Pirates Tales of Pirates II Tales of Solaris Talisman Online Tamer Saga Tank Ace Tantra Online Tatsumaki: Land at War Terra Militaris TerraWorld Online Terraria Thang Online The 4th Coming The Agency The Aurora World The Banner Saga The Black Watchmen The Chronicle The Chronicles of Spellborn The Crew The Division The Epic Might The Hammers End The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing 2 The Legend of Ares The Lost Titans The Matrix Online The Mighty Quest for Epic Loot The Missing Ink The Mummy Online The Myth of Soma The Pride of Taern The Realm Online The Repopulation The Secret World The Sims Online The Strategems The West The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt Theralon There Therian Saga Thrones of Chaos Tibia Tibia Micro Edition Tiger Knight Titan Siege Titans of Time Toontown Online Top Speed Topia Online Torchlight Torment: Tides of Numenera Total Domination Transformers Universe Transistor Transverse Traveller AR Travia Online Travian Triad Wars Trials of Ascension Tribal Hero Tribal Wars Tribes Universe Trickster Online Trove Troy Online True Fantasy Live Online Turf Battles Twelve Sky Twelve Sky 2 Twilight War Tynon U.B. Funkeys UFO Online URDEAD Online Ultima Forever: Quest for the Avatar Ultima Online Ultima X: Odyssey Ultimate Naruto Ultimate Soccer Boss Uncharted Waters Online Undercover 2: Merc Wars Underlight Unification Wars Universe Online Utopia Valkyrie Sky Vampire Lord Online Vanguard: Saga of Heroes Vanquish Space Vector City Racers Vendetta Online Victory - Age of Racing Vindictus Virtonomics Vis Gladius Visions of Zosimos VoidExpanse Voyage Century Online W.E.L.L. Online WAR (Warhammer Online) WAR2 Glory WYD Global Wakfu War Thunder War of 2012 War of Angels War of Legends War of Mercenaries War of Thrones War of the Immortals WarFlow Waren Story Warflare Wargame1942 Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade Warhammer 40K: Dark Millennium Online Warhammer Online: Wrath of Heroes Warkeepers Warrior Epic Wartune Wasteland 2 WebLords Wild West Online WildStar Wind of Luck WindSlayer 2 Wings of Destiny Wish Wizard101 Wizardry Online Wizards and Champions Wonder King Wonderland Online World Golf Tour World of Battles World of Darkness World of Heroes World of Kung Fu World of Pirates World of Speed World of Tanks World of Tanks Generals World of Warcraft World of Warplanes World of Warriors World of Warships World of the Living Dead WorldAlpha Wurm Online Xenoblade Chronicles: X Xenocell Xiah Xsyon Xulu YS Online Yitien ZU Online Zentia Zero Online Zero Online: The Andromeda Crisis Zodiac Online Zombies Ate My Pizza eRepublik

MMORPG.com Discussion Forums

General Discussion

General Discussion 

The Pub at MMORPG.COM  » MMO's Antisocial?

3 Pages 1 2 3 » Search
51 posts found
  plat0nic

Novice Member

Joined: 11/20/03
Posts: 303

 
OP  1/31/14 10:35:48 AM#1

Isn't that an oxymoron?

..as said by Wildstar dev: "And solo players are tragically underserved in most MMOs – something like 65% of players tend to play largely solo (Massively Single-player, as it were)."
http://www.wildstar-online.com/uk/ne...f_the_game.php

How do you feel about more people tend to play solo in MMO? Tbh, I dont know where he get that info from, but surely not out of the blue sky.


Main Game: Eldevin (Plat0nic)
2nd Game: Path of Exile (Platonic Hate)

  Betaguy

Advanced Member

Joined: 12/31/04
Posts: 2653

Some folks are like Slinkies, totally useless but great fun to watch when pushed down stairs

1/31/14 10:37:42 AM#2
Originally posted by plat0nic

Isn't that an oxymoron?

..as said by Wildstar dev: "And solo players are tragically underserved in most MMOs – something like 65% of players tend to play largely solo (Massively Single-player, as it were)."
http://www.wildstar-online.com/uk/ne...f_the_game.php

How do you feel about more people tend to play solo in MMO? Tbh, I dont know where he get that info from, but surely not out of the blue sky.

 People play how they want, that is what makes an MMO an MMO.

  Lienhart

Novice Member

Joined: 5/21/07
Posts: 673

1/31/14 10:42:54 AM#3
MMOs, in general, are games that attract the anti social irl. 
  CrazKanuk

Elite Member

Joined: 10/06/09
Posts: 1611

1/31/14 10:54:48 AM#4

Well, he probably does have a wealth of real data at his fingertips, but it could also be very subjective. 

 

Personally, I play a LOT of the content solo, especially story content. Reason being, that MMOs really haven't made it compelling to group for any reason other than to defeat content you can't complete on your own. In fact, they go out of their way to gimp people by reducing overall experience gains. I understand that if there are 5 people and some mob gives 100xp, it's logical to split that 5 ways, but I can usually pick up 4, 5, 6, 10 mobs on my own, spend 1.5 or 2 times the amount of time to kill them and get all the experience. So, from a leveling perspective, there's no real advantage, unless you have a group of people who can really clear like crazy, but even then you spend 80% of your time looking for new mobs. 

 

Apart from content where you're actually forced to group (like battlegrounds or dungeons or raids) what advantage do most games give you? 

 

Crazkanuk

----------------
Azarelos - 90 Hunter - Emerald
Durnzig - 90 Paladin - Emerald
Demonicron - 90 Death Knight - Emerald Dream - US
Tankinpain - 90 Monk - Azjol-Nerub - US
Brindell - 90 Warrior - Emerald Dream - US
----------------

  StonesDK

Novice Member

Joined: 8/06/11
Posts: 1845

1/31/14 11:02:42 AM#5

I think a very few, is one or the other 100% of the time. I have yet to meet somebody who only groups and never solo's or vice versa. They either play with a balance maybe leaning more towards one or the other playstyles.

Because of that there should be enough room for both playstyles in any good MMO

 

As to being anti social. MMO's are an escape from real life. If you want to escape real life for a moment, chances are that involves people as well.

  greenreen

Hard Core Member

Joined: 11/19/12
Posts: 1515

1/31/14 11:11:50 AM#6

I always thought of an MMO as lots of people in the same settings doing things. I never expected or enforced a rule that they had to be doing things together. Sometimes people tell me that I'm a pud for thinking that way and I'm antisocial but all I have to give them are the letters INTJ. If it weren't for the game they would probably never encounter me anyway so they can be unhappy that I solo more than I group but I'm not asking them for permission on how I play so it won't affect either of us. Ok, maybe THEM when THEY want a group. For me, I can amuse myself in small details of games, I don't think I require them to be around and grouped with me at all times. That's their hangup, not mine.

Grouping can lead to waiting on them or their kids grabbing their attention or anything else in life. I once was in a guild with a fireman - if he was called out, he had to leave raids, period because something was on fire. When I solo I can go at my own pace and stare at things or read quests without people hustling me along. That's how I like to play. The thing I hate most about groups is that person in the front who always wants to start a fight with everything they see. I'm always late to the party and they have something practically dead before I get close or I turn around and they are half dead running toward me with mobs on them. Yeah, that guy can go group with someone else. I'll stick to something where people communicate when grouped and everyone is ready before the fight starts instead of being led by a tank with a death wish. Not to mention, they loot everything too. Those bastards.

  Akerbeltz

Apprentice Member

Joined: 2/12/13
Posts: 157

1/31/14 11:33:16 AM#7

I don't think it's a question of forcing players to group as much as possible. But I'd say that any MMORPG who wanted to have a staying power and do justice to the 'RPG' term should promote the presence of diverse networks of interdependency among players from its very design. Very specially on the political, strategic and economic areas.

 

Most of MMORPG nowadays fail in this sense because they 'isolate' the players in a tunnel-vision experience, providing with compartments - usually directed from a lobby - to have the 'social' experience (one should say the 'grouping' experience though...). And even on these terms these games fail to provide with a sufficient degree of functionality to feel satisfactory and sustainable on the long run; being the former usually limited to combat, an AH, a crafting minigame and, in the best of cases, more minigames.

 

Last and in response to another poster above: Funny you say that, heard news of a sociological study that stated that people that tend to be social irl, tend to be social online. My own experience confirms it.

 

 

Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.

  Quirhid

Elite Member

Joined: 1/28/05
Posts: 5725

Correcting wrongs on the Internet...

1/31/14 11:34:30 AM#8

Most people play solo most of the time. This was true in GW1 and Eve according to Arenanet and CCP.

I skate to where the puck is going to be, not where it has been -Wayne Gretzky

  DeVoDeVo

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/07/13
Posts: 89

1/31/14 11:41:20 AM#9

I believe that the general attitudes of MMO players influence the game and not vice versa. Game mechanics cannot force people to be social. Really.

 

It's funny that people equate solo players with being anti-social but they have no proof that soloers are less friendly than any other player subdivision. Show me the data.

 

What about the guilds that only group and talk among themselves or others on their so called  "status level". They completely ignore the rest of the game population except to take their money in an auction house. Can one consider them to be a big antisocial solo group?

  GuyClinch

Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/28/13
Posts: 487

1/31/14 11:46:39 AM#10

GW2 does a nice job with the solo but kinda sorta grouped game play.. I think this is a trend we will see more of in the future. People want to play solo in a persistent world and be able to chat with guildmates/friends as well as accomplish more things.

The interesting thing about mmos is it feels more 'real' then single player games even if you are playing solo - likely because you can later use those accomplishments in your group. For example my g/f will craft alot of stuff and then send them to me or use them on her her characters.

So players are often alone but still working for a team. It's much more powerful then single player only games IMHO - and if done right can really grow the industry. Developers like Carbine, Blizzardd and Arenanet show some signs of 'getting it' But for every step forward like GW2 - there are several steps back (FFXIV). Now if you play FFXIV you know they randomnly make you ungroup and prevent random passer bys from help you with their 'duty' quests.

Now in theory this is to make the game harder - but in reality it just makes it seem stupid. Some monster is beating on a fellow adventurer - I should be able to step in and help.

Now most players here are obsessed with the idea that MMOs are failing because they don't force grouing. In reality, they aren't failing when they don't suck - and forcing grouping isn't a ticket to success. Ironically, listening to 'fans' is about the worst thing an MMO can do. They need to listen to their own data and make intelligent game design decisions.  Because letting fans design your game is stupid.

Working together is a great way to gate higher level content - but allowing solo or duo play where you can help the larger team in your own ways is a very important part of successfull MMOs.

  drakaena

Novice Member

Joined: 1/11/06
Posts: 508

1/31/14 11:52:48 AM#11
People have become much more anti social and MMOs are a reflection of that. If we want a more social gaming experience then devs need to make grouping required with huge incentives instead of solo options, otherwise players will choose the path of least resistance
  DamonVile

Apprentice Member

Joined: 11/22/05
Posts: 4909

1/31/14 11:54:00 AM#12

I'm not really sure why it matters so much that others play solo. They have no real effect on me or my game while they do it. I think what's important is that the game provides things for groups to do and that it somehow rewards group play while letting those people play how they want.

Forcing people to be social or group when they just want to solo has always seemed silly to me. I don't want to play with people who only group to get what they want done then drop group and leave. 

MMOs are imo long past the point of being group only games though. And people don't just play them to be social with others all the time.

  nariusseldon

Elite Member

Joined: 12/21/07
Posts: 20652

1/31/14 11:59:56 AM#13
Originally posted by CrazKanuk

Well, he probably does have a wealth of real data at his fingertips, but it could also be very subjective. 

 

It can be subjective to you of whether playing solo is a "good" thing. But statistics is not subject. If he indeed has data saying 65% of players (whatever the sample is) playing largely (with some rigorous definition, like 90% of the play-time) solo, then 65% of the players largely playing solo, no ifs and buts.

  inemosz

Novice Member

Joined: 3/13/12
Posts: 384

1/31/14 12:01:37 PM#14

I think it depends on the game. If the game emphasize its contents & gameplay on group play, the players will do that.

A good example is the good ol' Ragnarok, you hardly can solo the game all the way to level cap, even starting from lower level areas you're encouraged to party up with other players.

Games nowadays, however, doesn't emphasize on that. Developers know that people prefer to play solo if it's possible, so they provide their game as soloable as possible. This leads to themepark mmorpgs. They may force players to do some party play such as world boss or story quest that requires you to clear a dungeon, but that's all. Endgame is different though, as most of endgame stuff in mmorpgs requires you to party up. However, the recent trend of LFG tools really killed the social aspect of party play. People tend to ignore other member because of the randomness.

  Ruien

Novice Member

Joined: 3/15/12
Posts: 42

1/31/14 12:05:16 PM#15

MMO's started out being very social. In fact it was a way for a lot of nerds to have friends and do things together. It wasn't till WoW brung the genre to mainstream soccer moms and console kiddies that the genre has changed to be largely solo able. In my opinion that hasn't been for the best, but I am not making a living off the games either.

 

In my MMO dreams I would go back to the beginning and thats where the genre stayed. The WoW crowd could have made their own genre. Sure there wouldn't have been soo many MMO's made. That would have been a good thing in my book since every new MMO is crap piled with more crap.

  StonesDK

Novice Member

Joined: 8/06/11
Posts: 1845

1/31/14 12:07:00 PM#16
How the stats play out, largely depends on the MMO's in question and how they are set up. You have to take a look at what games the statistics comes from, if you are going to take any statements made on the matter serious
  Maquiame

Advanced Member

Joined: 8/21/07
Posts: 670

Power without perception is spiritually useless and of no true value

1/31/14 12:08:00 PM#17

Its called Massively Multiplayer Online Roleplaying Game

 

Not Massively Solo, Multiplayer Dungeon Game

Any mmo worth its salt should be like a good prostitute when it comes to its game world- One hell of a faker, and a damn good shaker!

  Flyte27

Advanced Member

Joined: 12/13/05
Posts: 2255

1/31/14 12:10:01 PM#18
Originally posted by Ruien

MMO's started out being very social. In fact it was a way for a lot of nerds to have friends and do things together. It wasn't till WoW brung the genre to mainstream soccer moms and console kiddies that the genre has changed to be largely solo able. In my opinion that hasn't been for the best, but I am not making a living off the games either.

 

In my MMO dreams I would go back to the beginning and thats where the genre stayed. The WoW crowd could have made their own genre. Sure there wouldn't have been soo many MMO's made. That would have been a good thing in my book since every new MMO is crap piled with more crap.

Thats true and it's unfortunate because I'm a fairly anti social person.  I don't hate people, but I'm not thrilled about interacting.  MMOs forced you to interact to at least some degree.  You may not have had to group, but you usually had to ask for help, ports to different places, buffs, trading with people, advice, camp check, etc.  Now you don't have to do any of that on top of not having to group to fight.  It's not like most of those things took much time or effort either.  They have just been removed by things like the auction house, fast travel, lfg tools, simplification of buffing systems, etc.

  Maquiame

Advanced Member

Joined: 8/21/07
Posts: 670

Power without perception is spiritually useless and of no true value

1/31/14 12:12:16 PM#19
Originally posted by Ruien

MMO's started out being very social. In fact it was a way for a lot of nerds to have friends and do things together. It wasn't till WoW brung the genre to mainstream soccer moms and console kiddies that the genre has changed to be largely solo able. In my opinion that hasn't been for the best, but I am not making a living off the games either.

 

In my MMO dreams I would go back to the beginning and thats where the genre stayed. The WoW crowd could have made their own genre. Sure there wouldn't have been soo many MMO's made. That would have been a good thing in my book since every new MMO is crap piled with more crap.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1588672538/pantheon-rise-of-the-fallen

Any mmo worth its salt should be like a good prostitute when it comes to its game world- One hell of a faker, and a damn good shaker!

  StonesDK

Novice Member

Joined: 8/06/11
Posts: 1845

1/31/14 12:12:55 PM#20
Originally posted by Maquiame

Its called Massively Multiplayer Online Roleplaying Game

 

Not Massively Solo, Multiplayer Dungeon Game

It's not called Massively 'never solo' Multiplayer Online Roleplaying game either.

 

I'd hate for you to start reading any religious books. You may start taking them too literally

3 Pages 1 2 3 » Search