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General Discussion  » From Smedley during interview today: "SWG PLAYERS - OUR NEXT GAME (not announced yet) IS DEDICATED TO YOU. Once we launch it... you can come home now."

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  Beatnik59

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Joined: 11/23/05
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"Playing things I shouldn''t be playing since 1977."

1/25/14 11:42:01 AM#21

I find it very confusing why now--only now--Smed is so committed to the SWG crowd with this new found dedication to us.

Didn't he throw us under the bus eight years ago to chase the kiddies with his fast-action combat and "kill, treasure, repeat?"  And where are those kiddies now?  Thrown under the bus--just like we were--with the closure of the kid titles (Clone Wars Adventures, FreeRealms and Wizardry Online).

And the whole ironic thing about this is that WE TOLD HIM SO.  We told him that one in the hand is better than two in the bush.  We told him that he shouldn't mess with a good thing; that his model eight years ago worked and they needed to double down on it, not throw it under the bus.

See, WE KNEW.  We knew that what SOE and Smed were doing eight years ago wasn't going to last.  It was good to be proven right, but questions remain.  If Smed has this big bromance with the Pre-CU crowd, why haven't we seen him in the Veteran's Refuge?  Eight years I've been waiting for Smed to come to the Veteran's Refuge, and eight years Smed was nowhere to be found there.  If he was interested in us, he always knew where to find us and make his case.

I'll tell you what.  If Smed comes down to the Veterans Refuge, I'll know he's serious.  But I don't know if he has the guts to come down there and talk with the likes of Wildcat84, Jest0rRodo and Shayde.

__________________________
"Its sad when people use religion to feel superior, its even worse to see people using a video game to do it."
--Arcken

"...when it comes to pimping EVE I have little restraints."
--Hellmar, CEO of CCP.

"It's like they took a gun, put it to their nugget sack and pulled the trigger over and over again, each time telling us how great it was that they were shooting themselves in the balls."
--Exar_Kun on SWG's NGE

  Obraik

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1/25/14 5:32:22 PM#22
Originally posted by Beatnik59

I find it very confusing why now--only now--Smed is so committed to the SWG crowd with this new found dedication to us.

Didn't he throw us under the bus eight years ago to chase the kiddies with his fast-action combat and "kill, treasure, repeat?"  And where are those kiddies now?  Thrown under the bus--just like we were--with the closure of the kid titles (Clone Wars Adventures, FreeRealms and Wizardry Online).

And the whole ironic thing about this is that WE TOLD HIM SO.  We told him that one in the hand is better than two in the bush.  We told him that he shouldn't mess with a good thing; that his model eight years ago worked and they needed to double down on it, not throw it under the bus.

See, WE KNEW.  We knew that what SOE and Smed were doing eight years ago wasn't going to last.  It was good to be proven right, but questions remain.  If Smed has this big bromance with the Pre-CU crowd, why haven't we seen him in the Veteran's Refuge?  Eight years I've been waiting for Smed to come to the Veteran's Refuge, and eight years Smed was nowhere to be found there.  If he was interested in us, he always knew where to find us and make his case.

I'll tell you what.  If Smed comes down to the Veterans Refuge, I'll know he's serious.  But I don't know if he has the guts to come down there and talk with the likes of Wildcat84, Jest0rRodo and Shayde.

 Maybe that's an indication that it was LucasArts that caused the problems rather than SOE?  Maybe that's why SOE has now publicly in a number of instances announced that they won't be doing IP license work again?  One only needs to look at TOR to see a repeat of the mistakes made with SWG...and there's only one common denominator across both games ;)

  grndzro

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1/25/14 5:52:09 PM#23
Originally posted by Obraik
Originally posted by Beatnik59

I find it very confusing why now--only now--Smed is so committed to the SWG crowd with this new found dedication to us.

Didn't he throw us under the bus eight years ago to chase the kiddies with his fast-action combat and "kill, treasure, repeat?"  And where are those kiddies now?  Thrown under the bus--just like we were--with the closure of the kid titles (Clone Wars Adventures, FreeRealms and Wizardry Online).

And the whole ironic thing about this is that WE TOLD HIM SO.  We told him that one in the hand is better than two in the bush.  We told him that he shouldn't mess with a good thing; that his model eight years ago worked and they needed to double down on it, not throw it under the bus.

See, WE KNEW.  We knew that what SOE and Smed were doing eight years ago wasn't going to last.  It was good to be proven right, but questions remain.  If Smed has this big bromance with the Pre-CU crowd, why haven't we seen him in the Veteran's Refuge?  Eight years I've been waiting for Smed to come to the Veteran's Refuge, and eight years Smed was nowhere to be found there.  If he was interested in us, he always knew where to find us and make his case.

I'll tell you what.  If Smed comes down to the Veterans Refuge, I'll know he's serious.  But I don't know if he has the guts to come down there and talk with the likes of Wildcat84, Jest0rRodo and Shayde.

 Maybe that's an indication that it was LucasArts that caused the problems rather than SOE?  Maybe that's why SOE has now publicly in a number of instances announced that they won't be doing IP license work again?  One only needs to look at TOR to see a repeat of the mistakes made with SWG...and there's only one common denominator across both games ;)

Ding ding ding ding ding ding!!!!!! We have a winner!!!!

  Beatnik59

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Joined: 11/23/05
Posts: 2233

"Playing things I shouldn''t be playing since 1977."

1/25/14 6:15:59 PM#24
Originally posted by Obraik
Originally posted by Beatnik59

I find it very confusing why now--only now--Smed is so committed to the SWG crowd with this new found dedication to us.

Didn't he throw us under the bus eight years ago to chase the kiddies with his fast-action combat and "kill, treasure, repeat?"  And where are those kiddies now?  Thrown under the bus--just like we were--with the closure of the kid titles (Clone Wars Adventures, FreeRealms and Wizardry Online).

And the whole ironic thing about this is that WE TOLD HIM SO.  We told him that one in the hand is better than two in the bush.  We told him that he shouldn't mess with a good thing; that his model eight years ago worked and they needed to double down on it, not throw it under the bus.

See, WE KNEW.  We knew that what SOE and Smed were doing eight years ago wasn't going to last.  It was good to be proven right, but questions remain.  If Smed has this big bromance with the Pre-CU crowd, why haven't we seen him in the Veteran's Refuge?  Eight years I've been waiting for Smed to come to the Veteran's Refuge, and eight years Smed was nowhere to be found there.  If he was interested in us, he always knew where to find us and make his case.

I'll tell you what.  If Smed comes down to the Veterans Refuge, I'll know he's serious.  But I don't know if he has the guts to come down there and talk with the likes of Wildcat84, Jest0rRodo and Shayde.

 Maybe that's an indication that it was LucasArts that caused the problems rather than SOE?  Maybe that's why SOE has now publicly in a number of instances announced that they won't be doing IP license work again?  One only needs to look at TOR to see a repeat of the mistakes made with SWG...and there's only one common denominator across both games ;)

Could be.  If so, he ought to come down to the Veterans Refuge to come talk to us someday.  I take the same attitude as Mace Windu: "If what you told me is true, you will have earned my trust."

__________________________
"Its sad when people use religion to feel superior, its even worse to see people using a video game to do it."
--Arcken

"...when it comes to pimping EVE I have little restraints."
--Hellmar, CEO of CCP.

"It's like they took a gun, put it to their nugget sack and pulled the trigger over and over again, each time telling us how great it was that they were shooting themselves in the balls."
--Exar_Kun on SWG's NGE

  Obraik

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1/25/14 8:10:22 PM#25
Originally posted by Beatnik59
Originally posted by Obraik
Originally posted by Beatnik59

I find it very confusing why now--only now--Smed is so committed to the SWG crowd with this new found dedication to us.

Didn't he throw us under the bus eight years ago to chase the kiddies with his fast-action combat and "kill, treasure, repeat?"  And where are those kiddies now?  Thrown under the bus--just like we were--with the closure of the kid titles (Clone Wars Adventures, FreeRealms and Wizardry Online).

And the whole ironic thing about this is that WE TOLD HIM SO.  We told him that one in the hand is better than two in the bush.  We told him that he shouldn't mess with a good thing; that his model eight years ago worked and they needed to double down on it, not throw it under the bus.

See, WE KNEW.  We knew that what SOE and Smed were doing eight years ago wasn't going to last.  It was good to be proven right, but questions remain.  If Smed has this big bromance with the Pre-CU crowd, why haven't we seen him in the Veteran's Refuge?  Eight years I've been waiting for Smed to come to the Veteran's Refuge, and eight years Smed was nowhere to be found there.  If he was interested in us, he always knew where to find us and make his case.

I'll tell you what.  If Smed comes down to the Veterans Refuge, I'll know he's serious.  But I don't know if he has the guts to come down there and talk with the likes of Wildcat84, Jest0rRodo and Shayde.

 Maybe that's an indication that it was LucasArts that caused the problems rather than SOE?  Maybe that's why SOE has now publicly in a number of instances announced that they won't be doing IP license work again?  One only needs to look at TOR to see a repeat of the mistakes made with SWG...and there's only one common denominator across both games ;)

Could be.  If so, he ought to come down to the Veterans Refuge to come talk to us someday.  I take the same attitude as Mace Windu: "If what you told me is true, you will have earned my trust."

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  Precursor

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Joined: 2/21/04
Posts: 140

Why are you wearing that stupid man suit?

1/25/14 8:27:52 PM#26

I hope he never shows up in the refuge. I'd get banned for sure. The tempatation within to cuss him out repeatedly is too strong.

  Smoey

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Joined: 7/25/05
Posts: 551

1/25/14 8:28:46 PM#27

I played SWG when it launched and loved it. If they create something similar to that including the 'little' things like dancing classes, farming materials by having to locate them first and allowing me to drop a class and pick another up then sure, this will be a great game with the new graphics publishers can produce now.

 

Will I try it? Yes, of course I will. Why would I not? Due to something Sony did in the past? Psssht!

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  shinkan

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Joined: 7/05/07
Posts: 223

1/26/14 4:28:21 AM#28

I've stayed away from any game involving smed or soe since SWG, and doubt a SWG like game is going to get me back.

  exile01

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Joined: 1/27/13
Posts: 147

1/26/14 4:38:36 AM#29

I dont know how you guys can be hyped about something that isnt even on the horizon.

 

Maybe its that Disney Land f2p star wars mmo they recently showed.

  Gatlan

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Joined: 1/19/13
Posts: 104

1/26/14 4:44:27 AM#30
Originally posted by Beatnik59
Originally posted by Obraik
Originally posted by Beatnik59

I find it very confusing why now--only now--Smed is so committed to the SWG crowd with this new found dedication to us.

Didn't he throw us under the bus eight years ago to chase the kiddies with his fast-action combat and "kill, treasure, repeat?"  And where are those kiddies now?  Thrown under the bus--just like we were--with the closure of the kid titles (Clone Wars Adventures, FreeRealms and Wizardry Online).

And the whole ironic thing about this is that WE TOLD HIM SO.  We told him that one in the hand is better than two in the bush.  We told him that he shouldn't mess with a good thing; that his model eight years ago worked and they needed to double down on it, not throw it under the bus.

See, WE KNEW.  We knew that what SOE and Smed were doing eight years ago wasn't going to last.  It was good to be proven right, but questions remain.  If Smed has this big bromance with the Pre-CU crowd, why haven't we seen him in the Veteran's Refuge?  Eight years I've been waiting for Smed to come to the Veteran's Refuge, and eight years Smed was nowhere to be found there.  If he was interested in us, he always knew where to find us and make his case.

I'll tell you what.  If Smed comes down to the Veterans Refuge, I'll know he's serious.  But I don't know if he has the guts to come down there and talk with the likes of Wildcat84, Jest0rRodo and Shayde.

 Maybe that's an indication that it was LucasArts that caused the problems rather than SOE?  Maybe that's why SOE has now publicly in a number of instances announced that they won't be doing IP license work again?  One only needs to look at TOR to see a repeat of the mistakes made with SWG...and there's only one common denominator across both games ;)

Could be.  If so, he ought to come down to the Veterans Refuge to come talk to us someday.  I take the same attitude as Mace Windu: "If what you told me is true, you will have earned my trust."

Don't forget that even though he told Mace Windu the truth, he still chopped off Mace's hand and and let him be lightning'd out a window.

  wilq

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1/26/14 4:45:58 AM#31
Sorry Smed but i think Repopulation will give me more SWG feel than you can.
  ktanner3

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1/26/14 8:38:49 AM#32
Which version of SWG is he talking about? The original, the CU or the NGE?

Currently Playing: Star Wars The Old Republic

  Pratt2112

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1/26/14 9:02:29 AM#33

Wow. Well that's something to chew on, now ain't it.

If that man is being insincere, and is just leading people on to drum up interest/hype, and then pulls one of his usual 180s and doesn't deliver (which he has a history of doing)... Well, he'd better have a bunker hidden away somewhere (not literally of course). That would be a serious dick move.

SWG players - particularly pre-NGE/CU - are perhaps the most passionate (and bitter - not that I blame them) I've seen in all my time gaming.

"Devs need to stop trying to make MMOs for people who don't like MMOs" - thevampirelematt/Reddit

  ReaperJoda

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1/26/14 9:17:17 AM#34
.....for one you all are even going to trust this guy's word??? After all the lies in the past and now the recent stuff with eqn. Second when will this even be released? 4-5 years in the future? Or on a council platform knowing sony. Think a bit first my old swg friends.
  alyndale

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1/26/14 9:17:43 AM#35

...with respect and honor to all you folks out there that were involved with this venerable old mmo, I salute you!

As of this writing there are at least 6 or 7 blog responses to the events that took place during the day on Friday, January 24th, 2014. Of course John Smedley is in the middle of all of this chatter. As some of you may know there is what Syp has defined on his blog, "Bio Break", a sort of "SoEpocolypse" going on at the campus in San Diego. What this means is not fully clear to us yet, but I fear may become more evident as 2014 moves forward.

Here's what I have gleaned thus from all this "stuff" being circulated by the SoE President Smed; 4 game are being canned, two in March and two in July; The new SoE pay plan goes into effect in April: pay $14.99 and play ALL current games for free; Brad McQuaid announced a few back that he is creating Pantheon; Smed announced that there will be new expansions for EQ and EQ 2 as well as some sort of new game releasing in 2014; Apparently Brad McQaid offered to buy back the source code for the dying Vanguard, but was turned down by Smed because it will NOT be made available; and finally Smed has announced that SoE is apparently spending money, time, and man-power on some mmo that will bring all of you former Star Wars Galaxies players back to SoE.

Before of all this media on Friday, I was trying my best to see Smedley as a sort of regular guy that often gets a bit over-excited about his company and chatters a bit "off script" on social media about what's going on "in house". Now, however, after adding these shenanigans with what I saw last August in his state of SoE address, I am beginning to feel Mr Smedley needs to move on or be replaced with a more professional leader at that campus. In truth, I am beginning to doubt whether any of the upcoming games this year next year or in the future are going to be anything they are being ballyhooed as.

We should keep watch as this year progresses. There is a heap-load of stress out on the Smed led campus in San Diego. The next SoE Live might be somewhat even MORE subdued that it was in 2013...

Watch this space...

Alyn

 

All I want is the truth
Just gimme some truth
John Lennon

  Dakeru

Elite Member

Joined: 9/21/09
Posts: 943

1/26/14 9:28:34 AM#36

A new game is being hyped by tossing out a comparison to SWG.

This is the same as Mortal Online fans claiming "If you don't support our game then you hate the genre itself!"

 

I know you are desperate to get your beloved game back but...

Shame on you if you fall for this kind of baseless hype.

  CthulhuPuffs

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Joined: 3/03/13
Posts: 379

Will consume your soul, yet stay crunchy in milk

1/26/14 9:53:19 AM#37
Originally posted by wilq
Sorry Smed but i think Repopulation will give me more SWG feel than you can.

Agreed.

The Repopulation has everything SWG had, but without the Smed

Bringer of Eternal Darkness and Despair, but also a Nutritious way to start your Morning.

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  Tierless

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Joined: 7/01/08
Posts: 2114

joie de vivre

1/26/14 10:39:47 AM#38

The trick to this concept is walking the line between "friendlier" new stuff and harsh old school stuff like the division of labor and forced socialization. IMO the more old school the better.

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  SuperDonk

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Joined: 6/22/10
Posts: 701

1/26/14 10:54:32 AM#39

I want to be excited, I do. But I am not.

Maybe it is because I have become an even more bitter vet since 2005, experiencing the march of the WoW clones, shitty sandboxes, and whatever GW2 is.

I'm sick of the hype and marketing that has been stirring people into frenzies only to leave most of them disappointed when the game is officially launched. No more preorders and no more spending hours researching every bit of data on upcoming MMO launches. This game will get the same treatment all MMOs get from me now: ignore all marketing and devs, wait until launch to see what the impatient pre-order folks have to say, decide if it is worth it.

I want to be Uncle Owen again.

  Dauzqul

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Posts: 1265

1/26/14 3:24:18 PM#40
Originally posted by CthulhuPuffs
Originally posted by wilq
Sorry Smed but i think Repopulation will give me more SWG feel than you can.

Agreed.

The Repopulation has everything SWG had, but without the Smed

and without the Star Wars.

 

The "Star Wars" part was half the game.

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