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1/17/14 9:36:05 PM#101
Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
Originally posted by Asamof
Originally posted by dancingstar
Originally posted by jbombard
Originally posted by karmath

No mention of the swtor? The fastest game to go ftp from a sub model ever and had to have content post launch cut because the engine lagged so horribly? Eh, dem advertising monies I suppose.

Actually I thought the Secret World beat them on fastest.  Granted at the time SWTOR went F2P it may have been fastest by TSW went F2P the following month and they released a few months after SWTOR if I remember correctly.

TSW lasted < 6 months as sub only (start of July 2012 to 12.12.12) but it isn't F2P, you still have to actually buy the base game in order to play it. 

Also TSW was a more earnest effort in making an interesting MMO

TOR was a lazy and greedy cash grab that didn't pay off in the end like EA thought it would

 Tor was by no means a lazy cash grab, remember EA invested 750,000,000 dollars in buying Bioware and then roughly another 200,000,000 dollars producing that garbage known as SWTOR. This game truly shows that more money does not mean a better title.

EA hoping to get WoW subscriber numbers by throwing mountains of money at  a nerdy developer is a lazy greedy move. As well as straight up copying WoW (even the skills/tooltip info was the same) instead of trying to make their own game, despite that plan having failed in the past time after time again

and now the fastest F2P conversion in MMO history was the final nail in the coffin


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The word cornucopia comes to mind.

1/17/14 11:43:57 PM#102
All of those games belong except Infestation. Yeah they lied.. yeah the developers are scum bags, I've heard and read that but everyones lame attempt to act like the game isn't fun is screams to me of  gaming sites banding together to be vindictive. Honestly I only bought when it went on steam for 3 $ But boy the best 3 $ ever spent. The 20 metacritic score and bad word of mouth power just goes to show you how far a rumor can spread mis-information. Has anyone at MMORPG even played this game that likes pvp? I don't play it all the time but I have put 200 hours on it.It's dangerous exciting rewarding, nothing to make you jump out of a chair like fing k-style nvg then hear gunfire nearby. Farstryder on steam check me out if you dont believe, and no I don't work for them or get paid. It's hardcore and very forgiving but if my brother who's gaming experience includes only Madden, let's just say he's not a gamer, can get addicted after watching me patiently stalk someone for 35 min so I can ambush and steal all his hard work worth of gear than anyone who's open to that can enjoy. It's not pay to win and they have added crazy amount of content and streamlined uber amounts of land and area. If you don't like traveling 20 min to meet your friend just for him to get to get shot and have to wait 20 min to rez.... don't play other wise Infestation is alot of fun and a hell less glitchier than Dayz standalone at this point.



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1/18/14 12:44:48 AM#103

I am seriously waiting for the first person that works here to admit this genre is on life support and nothing good has happened in a really long time, yes i have left my house recently i am serious. I honestly feel like mugatu from zoolander when he is screaming about crazy pills because all of derek's looks are exactly like blue steel.

 The worst MMO's and the best MMO's might as well be the same list its a bunch of wow clones that had to go F2P or they would be gone (yunno start with a subscription ) you get a bunch of people that wanna try out the 'new' game you start winning awards even though your population is dwindling, then you offer free mounts and hats or something......

Then you have the indie project's which many of us are getting all hyped up about and are always disappointed because they never live to to the hype etc.

 MMO's cost too much to make hence why nothing innovative is going on...i could freeze myself in time and come back in 5 years and nothing will have changed.


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1/18/14 12:49:54 AM#104
Originally posted by jbombard
I don't know if Scarlet Blade was a good game or not, but I'm pretty sure the editors don't either.  They have done a couple pieces that amount to little more than OMG evil boobies! My eyes! My eyes!, without any real attempt at reviewing the game.  If they haven't actually played or reviewed a game what metric do they use to determine best or worst?

It was a good game.

Aeria had the perfect opportunity to have a cash shop that just sold virtual skin items, too, since that was the main motivation for playing the game. 

Instead, they filled the cash shop with items that let you upgrade to give yourself a ridiculous and unbalanced advantage and promoted pvp.

It is really funny... This is the perfect example of a great game that was ruined by incompetent oversight and very little else.  Almost everyone who played it liked the core game.  The forums were filled with advice as to how to fix it (let money pay for skin, not pay to win mechanics) but Aeria ignored almost everyone.

I was surprised by how polished it was.

As far as MMORPG.COM and their review of it:  They didn't even play it, and even admitted it in several reviews before they edited things.  I think they are overly puritanical...


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1/18/14 1:06:11 AM#105

Well I raised my hand to playing MMOs because they are sexy, but I'm not a 13 year old boy, I'm a 20-something woman. Way to make assumptions, Just because I like boobies doesn't mean I am automatically a horny teenage male.

While I will agree Scarlet Blade had repetitive combat, that is what made the game bad, not the breasts or the skimpy outfits. I think it's more sexist to be so offended by the female form that you rate a game down simply because it has breasts in it.

Also I quite enjoyed the story of Scarlet Blade, I don't really know what you mean by "boring". The story was super funny, I was actually really surprised. A lot of the story was just them making fun of themselves, cursing, funny things, typical funny anime situations basically, but a bit more "adult". It's not a game for kids, but you could have just said that instead of saying "I don't like this game it has breasts". What's wrong with breasts? What are you, some kind of sexist?

I'm getting real tired of your hatred for boobies, what did boobies ever do to you?

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1/18/14 1:15:09 AM#106
Originally posted by orbitxo

agree with Dust 514.

sadly dont think theres no turning back on that one eh?...

Too many mistakes. Was a shame and a major blight on CCPs image.

Everyone thought the PS3 was an issue... Sadly that was the least of them


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1/18/14 1:15:21 AM#107
Originally posted by Vonatar
Neverwinter should be on that list for showing us the depths to which the once great MMORPG genre has sunk. Cartoony graphics, clunky linear gameplay and all the while trying to pick your pocket while you play. It's an insult to MMORPGs and D&D/Forgotten Realms fans.

Agreed, having played some of these games I think Neverwinter should be on this list. For those saying Neverwinter is the new D&D game I have to say lol.

Neverwinter does not target D&D fans and most left during betas or after a month of two of sad foundry junk.

Neverwinter is THE GAME that has convinced me to never ever play another Cryptic  or PW game again.


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1/18/14 2:01:37 AM#108
FFXIV a realm reborn is not on the list why?

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1/18/14 2:02:21 AM#109
Originally posted by remsleep

Oh wait Infestation Survivor Stories is War Z?

Ah OK Ive actually played that - oh yes it was downright dreadful. 

I didn't realize it got renamed.


All that means is their plan worked..



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1/18/14 2:10:36 AM#110
pretty sure final fantasy 14 a realm reborn needs to be added to this list


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1/18/14 2:15:23 AM#111
Originally posted by evilastro
Originally posted by SBFord
Originally posted by karmath

No mention of the swtor? The fastest game to go ftp from a sub model ever and had to have content post launch cut because the engine lagged so horribly? Eh, dem advertising monies I suppose.


It's not on this list because it wasn't released in 2013. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with advertising dollars. *facepalms*


Also compared to this list SWTOR is the messiah of online gaming.  I mean really, we get it.  You were disappointed with SWTOR, or it wasn't the game you wanted it to be, but to claim that it comes anywhere near the epic badness of the games listed in this column is laughable and complete trolling.

Try to be a little bit objective guys.  Blind hatred just makes you look foolish.  

Well, if you want to be objective... then how about comparing money to development.

See what certain amounts can accomplish, and see which team is more resourceful.\

I have a feeling, that asian companies are more resourceful and effecient for the amount put in... to bad it cant deliver story to the western market without some outside input. It seems that MMO companies would benefit from out sourcing to asian developers, which is a shame since the west has vets in the genre, but money is a huge factor.

However, on the flip side, ppl in the west are generous and do have the money... hence kick starter. Case in point, Star Citizen, and the more money they have the more they can develop for launch.

So money is a key variable. And, I would say that swtor is a great game for a first time play through, but seriously lacks retention with very slow development. The only new things that were added as expansions was one planet/area with no class stories but faction ones and gsf. That is over a two year period. Yes they had many updates of more of the same... but a game with a huge budget, and continuous huge revenue should be able to do a lot more than that when they have so many years of experience with their engine... unless of course the problem is a bit more serious than one should anticipate, and they are effecient but are working on a sinking ship, aka a broken engine. 


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1/18/14 2:23:28 AM#112

You miss like hundred games,  generic asian mmos.

And firefall, complicated awkward crafting system killed that game.


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1/18/14 6:18:27 AM#113
i will add all the mmorpg exit in 2013 are a fail.......RvR is a fail....Siege without end ARE a Fail....whenever someone force to nonsense a content well this is a fail.....I ll add also lot of game that will exit in 2014 .....

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1/18/14 8:29:45 AM#114
How DUST514 is higher then Scarlet BLade on the list? Dust might be not a masterpiece, still a solid shooter. While Scarlet Blade is pathetic shame of genre.

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1/18/14 8:46:48 AM#115
My first question is how many players are still playing these MMOs? My second question is how many players are still playing MMOs that were in the list for 'best MMOs of 2013'? My final question is, if we are not playing them now, what's the difference?

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1/18/14 9:19:27 AM#116
Originally posted by Tuchaka

I am seriously waiting for the first person that works here to admit this genre is on life support and nothing good has happened in a really long time, yes i have left my house recently i am serious. I honestly feel like mugatu from zoolander when he is screaming about crazy pills because all of derek's looks are exactly like blue steel.

 The worst MMO's and the best MMO's might as well be the same list its a bunch of wow clones that had to go F2P or they would be gone (yunno start with a subscription ) you get a bunch of people that wanna try out the 'new' game you start winning awards even though your population is dwindling, then you offer free mounts and hats or something......

Then you have the indie project's which many of us are getting all hyped up about and are always disappointed because they never live to to the hype etc.

 MMO's cost too much to make hence why nothing innovative is going on...i could freeze myself in time and come back in 5 years and nothing will have changed.

Agreed here

That's why i feel paying monthly for any of these games now is a waste of my money. I'VE been playing them since 99/2000 and they are all Everquest in different skins. And anyone that doesn't see this are on crazy pill's. Even the new games coming out are nothing new. Someone said they thought it was stupid that anyone would play f2p games that were not the f2p options that the AAA games offer. That's so lame because those games are only f2p with restrictions. So they don't give you a full game to play unless you spend money. Again more crazy pills at work.  The real f2p games may not be what some call AAA but some of them are fun and that seems to be lost on most people that post here. And a lot of them are starting to look better than alot of the so called AAA game's. And forget about gameplay They are all Everquest remember.


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1/18/14 9:59:16 AM#117
I cried tears of blood over Ragnarok 2 :( BUGS BUGS BUGS


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1/18/14 10:28:00 AM#118

There are 30 more just as bad if not worse on the virus all the little kids call STEAM! (yo dog, I thought you'd like a launcher to launcher your game, while looking for more games while you're launching your games)

Such garbage. All the greenlight crap is well..crap and if you're a desperate company, you go steam. If you're game is failing after youve spent millions, it goes to steam. For a steep discount.

The top games, won't ever be found on steam. Period.

This list, is on point. all garbage. Reminds me of these horrible knock off movies that people make. Why waste 4 mos of your life making a shit movie that was already done, 100x better and hit the theatre? Why? It's embarrasing.


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1/18/14 10:33:28 AM#119
Kinda amusing how almost every single one of those games are from Asia

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Played: Nexus:Kingdom of the Winds, Everquest, DAoC, Everquest 2, WoW, Matrix Online, Vangaurd, SWG, DDO, EVE, Fallen Earth, LoTRo, CoX, Champions Online, WAR, Darkfall, Mortal Online, Guild Wars, Rift, Tera, Aion, AoC, Gods and Heroes, DCUO, FF14, TSW, SWTOR, GW2, Wildstar, ESO, ArcheAge
Waiting On: Nothing. Mmorpg's are dead.


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1/18/14 10:57:38 AM#120
Originally posted by ragz45
Originally posted by BillMurphy
Originally posted by jogumby
Given their recent ad on this site, it appears League of Angels aspires to be the Scarlet Blade of 2014!




Just curious do you guys actually pick and chose which Ad space you sell to who?  Or do you just sell it in an open forum, and who ever buys it can put what ever they want?  I know sites can go either way, was just curious how you guys sold your Ad space.


Goes by who pays to do so. No other criteria that I've seen

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