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  DarkHigh

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OP  1/12/14 8:08:25 PM#1
Don't waste your money or time, truely a terrible game. It's rotten to the concept and breeds greifers. Yes I know this is alpha but I promise it's not going to get any better, its a marketing trick they all use "Open Beta" means live release you pay for and we will fix the bugs later. Alpha like this means no one would fund us so please help pay for development.
  remsleep

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1/12/14 8:23:15 PM#2

I think that's a bit harsh criticism.

However Rust is not a MMO - it's a MOG (multiplayer online game) as each user can host a server.

It doesn't belong on this site, otherwise DAYZ mod should be here too or any other game where users can fire up servers.

 

  C.L.O.U.D

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1/12/14 11:23:20 PM#3
Originally posted by remsleep

I think that's a bit harsh criticism.

However Rust is not a MMO - it's a MOG (multiplayer online game) as each user can host a server.

It doesn't belong on this site, otherwise DAYZ mod should be here too or any other game where users can fire up servers.

 

There are plenty of games on this site that aren't "MMOs", 

Also...here ya go : http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/834

  Rhoklaw

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1/15/14 7:36:18 PM#4

Well, if you play a PvP game, expect greifing. I started out on a PvP server and was doing fine till a group of hackers walked through my walls and took all my stuff. Granted, they did ban 1000+ hackers, PvP servers are meant for groups of players, not solo artists.

Hence, why it's called a Survivalist MOG

  lizardbones

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1/15/14 8:36:18 PM#5

I would mostly agree with the expressed preferences against the whole open world pvp thing, but Rust is sitting in Steam's Top 10 right now for concurrent players, above DayZ. 'Worst Game Ever' doesn't seem to apply.

I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.

  aRtFuLThinG

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1/15/14 8:59:33 PM#6
Originally posted by lizardbones

I would mostly agree with the expressed preferences against the whole open world pvp thing, but Rust is sitting in Steam's Top 10 right now for concurrent players, above DayZ. 'Worst Game Ever' doesn't seem to apply.

I would agree with that Steam top 10 assessment.

 

Rust seems to be better than DayZ at this stage because of a) the building and crafting element and b) the movements

  Rhoklaw

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1/18/14 12:40:20 AM#7
Originally posted by aRtFuLThinG
Originally posted by lizardbones

I would mostly agree with the expressed preferences against the whole open world pvp thing, but Rust is sitting in Steam's Top 10 right now for concurrent players, above DayZ. 'Worst Game Ever' doesn't seem to apply.

I would agree with that Steam top 10 assessment.

 

Rust seems to be better than DayZ at this stage because of a) the building and crafting element and b) the movements

Well, after reading the interview with Garry by PCGamer, I'm beginning to think he has no freaking clue what he's doing right now. The game is good, sure, especially for being in alpha. However, Garry comes off as a bit of a griefer when it comes to game design. If you read the interview and some of the forum discussions, he presents Rust like a game designed for griefing.

Take for instance the ability for anyone to build or construct right onto your own buildings. Now, in a game like Rust, that sounds like a great addition to strategy and raiding. Problem is, certain structures are not destructible, like foundations, pillars and ceilings. So in essence, anyone can grief you by placing random crap all over and around your structures. Ok Garry, if you want a realistic game, how about making all structures destructible than?

Sorry, as of right now, the direction and focus Garry is taking with Rust is nothing more than a griefers game, plain and simple.

  Boneserino

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Joined: 12/08/07
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1/18/14 12:47:55 AM#8
Originally posted by darkhigh
Don't waste your money or time, truely a terrible game. It's rotten to the concept and breeds greifers. Yes I know this is alpha but I promise it's not going to get any better, its a marketing trick they all use "Open Beta" means live release you pay for and we will fix the bugs later. Alpha like this means no one would fund us so please help pay for development.

So you are saying a game with open world PvP and full loot,  breeds griefers??!

 

This is shocking!!    Hurry everyone , warn your friends!!

 

Man, do I love this game!

FFA Nonconsentual Full Loot PvP ...You know you want it!!

  Rhoklaw

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1/18/14 12:54:20 AM#9
Originally posted by Boneserino
Originally posted by darkhigh
Don't waste your money or time, truely a terrible game. It's rotten to the concept and breeds greifers. Yes I know this is alpha but I promise it's not going to get any better, its a marketing trick they all use "Open Beta" means live release you pay for and we will fix the bugs later. Alpha like this means no one would fund us so please help pay for development.

So you are saying a game with open world PvP and full loot,  breeds griefers??!

 

This is shocking!!    Hurry everyone , warn your friends!!

 

Man, do I love this game!

Think you are missing the point as my previous post mentions. Designing a game specifically for greifing with no way to combat it is in fact a horrible game design. I think pretty much all open world PvP games with full loot have proven... Mortal Online, Darkfall and so on. It's ok, Garry can make his game any way he wishes, I know I won't support it any further till more fair mechanics are implemented.

  Boneserino

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1/18/14 1:23:03 AM#10
Originally posted by Rhoklaw
Originally posted by Boneserino
Originally posted by darkhigh
Don't waste your money or time, truely a terrible game. It's rotten to the concept and breeds greifers. Yes I know this is alpha but I promise it's not going to get any better, its a marketing trick they all use "Open Beta" means live release you pay for and we will fix the bugs later. Alpha like this means no one would fund us so please help pay for development.

So you are saying a game with open world PvP and full loot,  breeds griefers??!

 

This is shocking!!    Hurry everyone , warn your friends!!

 

Man, do I love this game!

Think you are missing the point as my previous post mentions. Designing a game specifically for greifing with no way to combat it is in fact a horrible game design. I think pretty much all open world PvP games with full loot have proven... Mortal Online, Darkfall and so on. It's ok, Garry can make his game any way he wishes, I know I won't support it any further till more fair mechanics are implemented.

There is no way to combat it.    People just think there is.

 

Go ahead and try but as soon as you do people wil complain it is too limiting or that it is unbalanced etc. 

 

Its the PvP wet dream,   but every day you are still going to wake up with damp sheets.

FFA Nonconsentual Full Loot PvP ...You know you want it!!

  Zaxx99

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Joined: 12/31/03
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1/21/14 3:35:58 PM#11

I find it amusing that while the OP says that Rust is the "worst game ever" I personally think this is the most fun I've had with a game in over ten years.

I myself miss the PvP of the Darktide server on Asheron's Call way back from like 1999 to 2003 or so. I also loved the PvP servers Mordred and Andred I think they were called on Dark Age of Camelot. Not since those two epic games have I had this much fun with a PvP game.

And to say that you must be a griefer to like a game like this is also nonsense. I am in no way a griefer and hate the griefers and cheaters. But a game like this gives me the opportunity to kick their arse. It's epic fun.

- Zaxx

  lizardbones

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1/21/14 3:58:21 PM#12
Originally posted by Rhoklaw
Originally posted by Boneserino
Originally posted by darkhigh
Don't waste your money or time, truely a terrible game. It's rotten to the concept and breeds greifers. Yes I know this is alpha but I promise it's not going to get any better, its a marketing trick they all use "Open Beta" means live release you pay for and we will fix the bugs later. Alpha like this means no one would fund us so please help pay for development.

So you are saying a game with open world PvP and full loot,  breeds griefers??!

 

This is shocking!!    Hurry everyone , warn your friends!!

 

Man, do I love this game!

Think you are missing the point as my previous post mentions. Designing a game specifically for greifing with no way to combat it is in fact a horrible game design. I think pretty much all open world PvP games with full loot have proven... Mortal Online, Darkfall and so on. It's ok, Garry can make his game any way he wishes, I know I won't support it any further till more fair mechanics are implemented.

 

I could be missing something here, but isn't it possible that there are people who want a game that specifically allows griefing?  Say people who played Mortal Online, and were cool with the idea, but were tired of the game's glitches, exploits and overall bad quality?  What about people who played Darkfall, but don't want to pay a sub, and who found Darkfall's lack of griefing no fun?

 

If posts on these boards are any indication, there are people for who a game that not only doesn't impede griefing but that encourages it has a market.  It may be a market that no one wants to touch because it's an icky market, but if that market exists, then someone can provide a product for it.  Maybe Rust is that product, and Garry will make another mint from it.

 

I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.

  User Deleted
1/21/14 4:04:29 PM#13
Originally posted by Rhoklaw

Designing a game specifically for greifing with no way to combat it is in fact a horrible game design. I think pretty much all open world PvP games with full loot have proven... Mortal Online, Darkfall and so on. It's ok, Garry can make his game any way he wishes, I know I won't support it any further till more fair mechanics are implemented.

I have to agree with this. Also, the fact that it is #1 currently on the top-sellers on Steam while in Early Access is ridiculous. Especially when the little blue box says:

“We are in very early development. Some things work, some things don't. We haven't totally decided where the game is headed - so things will change. Things will change a lot. We might even make changes that you think are wrong. But we have a plan. It's in our interest to make the game awesome - so please trust us.”

People will buy anything it seems.

  lugal

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1/21/14 4:24:36 PM#14
Souinds like the OP didn't put the lotion on his skin and got the hose.

Roses are red
Violets are blue
The reviewer has a mishapen head
Which means his opinion is skewed
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  TruthXHurts

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1/21/14 4:45:42 PM#15

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  Kaneth

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1/21/14 4:51:31 PM#16
Originally posted by lugal
Souinds like the OP didn't put the lotion on his skin and got the hose.

I don't know why, but this comment made me just about do a spit take.

  Siphaed

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1/24/14 11:56:03 AM#17
Originally posted by remsleep

I think that's a bit harsh criticism.

However Rust is not a MMO - it's a MOG (multiplayer online game) as each user can host a server.

It doesn't belong on this site, otherwise DAYZ mod should be here too or any other game where users can fire up servers.

 

Rust seems to be more persistent than a normal MMORPG.   When I log out, my body is still there, sleeping with all it's loot.  People can kill me if I'm not in a protected, locked shelter and loot my stuff while I'm sleeping in real.   THAT is true PvP that many of the "hardcore PvPers" have been looking for.

 

  And the OP is right in that it is ripe with griefers and people that are general dicks.   However, it's by no means a "worst game ever" (that goes to Infestation -formerly known as The War Z- and it's ilk).     There's plenty of opportunities to find people to join with and faction up with via bribes, providing protection, and so on.   I've already met and befriended 6 people on my server that all have a mutual understanding of 'kill everyone else but never shoot one of us'.  

  apocoluster

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1/24/14 12:21:47 PM#18
Originally posted by Kaneth
Originally posted by lugal
Souinds like the OP didn't put the lotion on his skin and got the hose.

I don't know why, but this comment made me just about do a spit take.

It a semi common thing peeps find noob shacks and build a compound around them holding them prisoner. Lugal it seems does so while quoting Buffalo Bill.

as far as the game goes.  I'm having a blast though I play on a care bear server.  Our version of Pvp is whom can build the biggest phallus ;)

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  NineFuries

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1/24/14 7:24:32 PM#19

So OP got griefed in a pvp game?  Apparently he didn't read the disclaimer before jumping on this ride.  

"Worst game eva!"  Dude relax, take your add meds and play something else then?

Perhaps if you did the eeny teeny slightest bit of searching you might find that there is in fact a great deal of no pvp servers.

While I tend to agree on the idea that it is bogus to pay for early release games which don't have an "official" release till years later, the money trail is showing that this is the way to go for devs and the people are shoveling out their cash hand over fist for these games on steam so early release games are only going to increase alot more.

 

Now aside from the hacking which is being dealt with, it is possible to have loads of fun with this game which is simply not gonna happen with the linear hand held games being pumped out like mickey D's french fries these days.  Join a low pop server I would say with about 20-30 active players max and you can build your base, make some friends and enemies and enjoy what this game has to offer.  

 

Perhaps when they make the map alot bigger it will be possible to have more people on the server without getting your base raided constantly.  Also finding the right spot and hiding your base correctly will save you alot of grief.  You really have to act like a ninja and use your brain to work around all the KOS base raiding bandits which I find immensely fun.

 

I have spent hours on some low pop servers and gave a helping hand to some noobs who end up becoming my allies and we work together to build our bases and keep them hidden and then when the time is right we go out on the prowl.  You really can create your own fun in this game which I think most gamers, especially the younger generation doesn't know how to do.  These survival type games are kind of a microcosm of human nature and often times it is survival of the fittest.  It is in your best interest to understand that and make your decisions accordingly.

 

Personally Ive had more fun in this game than any other mmo since age of conan(loved the pvp before craig morrison came along) and any game in the past several years because it gives the players tools which they can choose how to implement.  All for 20$ you really can't beat that.

And this game is way better than dayz at the moment where you cant even build a base or craft much of anything oh and also the combat loggers.  With Rust you have options...which are only going to increase.  There is alot of versatility here and already there are servers which have an economy and money system.  Some even hold pvp hunger game type tournaments!  If you are a pve carebear well there are servers and like minded people for you to play with!  

 

  Stimz

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Joined: 8/03/12
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1/24/14 7:26:32 PM#20
My guild and I actually really enjoyed Rust, guess some people just have differing opinions, and we do enjoy pvp, so that probably had something to do with it.

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