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News & Features Discussion  » [Interview] General: SOE's Smedley on Re-Imagining the All-Access Pass

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1/13/14 9:28:47 AM#41
Originally posted by aspekx
i think the subscription model is about to make a comeback and in the form described above. something like amazonprime that offers a package of benefits while not excluding others from basic services.


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1/13/14 11:08:13 AM#42

Sub model is fine.

THE PROBLEM: When micro-transactions are offered along with paying a sub. I absolutely despise companies that do that. It reflects poorly and just reeks of greed. It makes the company look cheap, IMO.

It should ALWAYS either be 100% Sub OR 100% FTP with Cash Shop.


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1/13/14 12:12:13 PM#43
Originally posted by hfztt

They need to go the Turbine way when it come to the EU publisher: Cut them out of the equation.

Best thing Turbine ever did for DDO and LOTRO.

 Yes such a good thing that their revenue dropped so low their investors sold them off to WB.

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Might play EQN + new secret SWG-type game Sony is working on! In the meantime, ESO is looking good!

1/13/14 1:12:19 PM#44
Originally posted by Dauzqul

Sub model is fine.

THE PROBLEM: When micro-transactions are offered along with paying a sub. I absolutely despise companies that do that. It reflects poorly and just reeks of greed. It makes the company look cheap, IMO.

It should ALWAYS either be 100% Sub OR 100% FTP with Cash Shop.

I don't mind the hybrid free and cash shop model, since they both can add enjoyment to the game.

To be honest, I find a couple of trends in cash shops quite alienating. The worst is the gambling box or bag of random goodies, which entice players to keep purchasing the box/bag until they have a complete set of armour/home decorations/pets. The other trend I don't like is very overpriced rare mounts. I think the best ways to ensure that mounts or other objects are rare, is to either restrict the period over which they're sold (rather than multiplying the price), or to let them be part of a complex gaming achievement.  I actually went on a long break from MMOs because I didn't like those kinds of trends. Hopefully at some point it stops since it pretty much preys on impulse. Bottomline, I'd prefer games to not have casino type attributes, or if they do - they should put all possible items found in the bags/boxes on sale individually as well, for players who don't want to play spin the wheel.



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Might play EQN + new secret SWG-type game Sony is working on! In the meantime, ESO is looking good!

1/13/14 1:19:55 PM#45
Originally posted by TangentPointFor example, when he says "I can't wait to see what people come up with!", you can just hear the real thought going through his mind: "I can't wait to see how much money we make off of all these people creating and selling stuff!"

Frankly, people who run shops thru' Amazon also benefit from Amazon's infrastructure and widespread access to browsing customers. Just like players who make stuff for Sony's game cash shops benefit from the context and worldwide audience Sony games give their Player made items. Sony still has to tweak or finesse player items that get sold. I don't begrudge Sony making profit on this arrangement at all. The environment in which players have been enabled to make some money is all thanks to Sony.


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1/13/14 2:38:45 PM#46
This is a little confusing. I know he has mentioned they have not worked all the details out yet, however in the above (1st paragraph) he says that if you subscribe to one of their games you will get access to all their games as a subscriber, correct? Well, right now I can sub to DCUO for 9.99/m (3 month term, recurring). So, does that mean that instead of the $15/m all access, I get access to all for 9.99/m because I subbed with DCUO for that amount??? Or are they going to strip all the subscriptions in each game and ask that you now sub through all access pass?

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1/13/14 4:10:10 PM#47

Don't they have the station pass anymore?

I remember that from when I played EQ2 when it first came out, I looked at it and thought it was a pretty good deal if I'd want to play more of SWG or some of the other games they offered.

So yeah, does seem like a good idea, depending on the pricing of course.

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1/13/14 4:32:51 PM#48
Originally posted by Lord-Kronk
I love how people say this is a great idea for gaming companies to pick up.  How it's the future plan for MMO's (being the sub for full game access).. But what company can really do this other than SOE?  99% of the MMO companies out there only have 1 game.  I could maybe see CCP doing this with EVE/Dust/Valkyrie/WoDO... And I guess Funcom with AoC and TSW, but that's pretty much it.



This seems more like marketing smoke and mirrors to me. If you happen to want to play multiple SoE games at the same time I guess it's a good deal but how many would you want to even play and aren't they all pretty much F2P now anyway? So basically EQN is now a sub game and you get to play their other F2P games for free and still buy things in the cash shop? Nice Jedi Mind Trick there Smed.


If this had been announced in a slightly different way the F2P crowd would be having a fit but when you jazz it up with lots of "free" and "all access" marketing mumbo jumbo so somehow it's brilliant. Sorry but I doubt most people want to play EQ, EQ2 and EQN all at the same time anyway so I fail to see all this great value that is any different than what you get with a sub model anyway.


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1/13/14 4:36:14 PM#49
For a big corporation like SOE, this can really be a good thing.  Granted I'm not a fan of paying a sub for one game, but for several then yeh.  Heck some of their older games blow a lot of newer 2013 games out of the water.  This won't work for all companies, but it makes sense for SOE. 

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1/13/14 4:37:29 PM#50
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by Uhwop

Would be nice if that would carry over to DCUO on playstation. 

I sub to DCUO on PS3, but I'm planning on getting a PS4 once sony gets around to releasing them for real.  I'm not really sure if I would have to keep paying a sub once I start paying for playstation plus, something they said they didn't want people to do on the PS4. 

This came up on the EQ2 forums when discussing Gold status changes. They want to work something out for the console players as well. I'm not sure why it's so tricky to figure that part out.

Because of playstation plus


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Perhaps tomorrow will be better.

1/13/14 10:59:16 PM#51

1 We can already try other games with no worries,so SOE is offering nothing there.

2 This is a cash shop business,this means NOTHING is FREE.Their plan is not to combine games to give you a is to hope you try other games and spend any amount on those cash shops,they figure their not going to get money from you on those games,this way there is hope.

That is the lame thing about developers and marketing speeches,they will NEVER tell you both sides of the fence only what sounds good to entice customers,in other words,misleading information.It is not right but there is no law against it,just immoral.

The only truth to it all is the wording "all-access",yes it gives access to all games but it is still cash shop generated.

I live by the same rule always,if a game is not good enough to sub,how does it make the game better just because i can access it for free?It is still the EXACT same game,only the pricing changes,i don't pick which games i play based on pricing,except that i want a straight forward price,nothing misleading.

When Smedley comes out and tell us the good AND BAD of SOE's pricing ideas,then i might believe him.I have already been a VERY good customer to SOE maybe spent as much or more than anyone on these forums,but i know when i am getting mislead and i don't like it,so i left SOE and most likely will never return.
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