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  greenreen

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1/04/14 9:20:22 AM#21

Well, on Reddit there are 3 people in the last few days who have talked about getting a computer to support the game so you can add their votes to the "it'sa' gonna' be a'ght category "

 

I want something that will run new games like BF4 and Elder Scrolls Online well. Willing to go to at least $600.
http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/1u45eg/build_ready_first_budget_pc/

 


... I have a price limit around $1200 and am looking to use it primarily for games like skyrim and Elder Scrolls Online.
http://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/1uc3px/making_the_switch_from_console_need_help/

 


... and maybe a couple MMOs like Final Fantasy XIV and Elder Scrolls Online.
http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/1uc11n/build_help_looking_for_feedback_an_a_few_things/

 

  Gilllean

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1/04/14 9:47:13 AM#22

I personaly  don't think game will fail. 

  1. First of all from first preview many things changed !! also that Zenimax focused on immersion and exploration 
  2. ESO should be orientated mostly for The Elder Scroll fans than to MMO community trash.
  3. ESO will have 1 continent of NIRN FULL TAMRIELL  < if you don't know what this means you're opotion folks have 0 value to me!!
  4. I think that ESO will bring WORLD vs WORLD vs WORLD to a new level  much more better than in GW 2  where I spent a lot of time even if in GW2 it's a bit pointless Fact ! ESO improved this content look up for info I won't waste my time for whiny girls.
  5. LEAD LORE MASTER is GANDALF and he's a soccer real soccer !! Lawrence Schick and this guy have all TES lore to play with !! just imagine what he might bring into ESO!!!!
  6. Character development freedom and combinations. 
  7. Time ~ Worth in game achievement like becoming WvsWvsW Emperor with special armor set for them which will be very very very hard to achieve but worth the time.
  8. OLD TES fans like me will be able to explore MORROWIND MAP which I think was best of the series 
  9. Fully voiced NPC and from few I had opportunity to hear with great voice and accent. 
Maybe from MMO point of view not is  all-inclusive still as a first MMO attempt it will be great plus there lore wise content expansion is HUUUUGE  Zenimax will be retarded if not use this opportunity 
 
Comparing ESO with SWTOR just proves that majority of gamers are stupid people who are easily influenced buy some corrupt youtube /social media    Reviews 
When ESO will release and will break sales records. Remember me }: )
  Theodwulf

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1/04/14 9:48:22 AM#23
it's going to be a failure..sadly. This is going to be another Kamikazie  the IP for profit scenario. You already have the action packed , commercial videos with lots of Matrix moves, always a bad sign. It's going to be hyped to death and the majority of people are going to be disappointed.
  ElRenmazuo

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1/04/14 9:53:14 AM#24
Originally posted by KyutaSyuko
I have to disagree mainly because, if I remember correctly, that article was mainly about console gamers like they're the only ones that exist anymore and they'll determine the fate of the game.  I'd risk my current savings on betting most TES players are actually PC gamers.  The guy's also basing his decision on the fact it'll be P2P rather than F2P or B2P which most MMO players on this forum seem to prefer the P2P model.

TES series sold way more on consoles than it did on PC.  Skyrim alone was 86% of its sales on consoles with 14% on PC.

  SoulTrapOnSelf

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Joined: 11/17/13
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1/04/14 10:01:00 AM#25
It will fail in the long-term; initial sales will be a success just because of the IP; the end-game PvP won't cut it; the classes and lackluster PvE are not worth the monthly sub; just play the game and see for yourself; ready for my second warning of the year
  Bahz

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Joined: 9/21/06
Posts: 178

1/04/14 10:08:52 AM#26
The game seems fun to me, saw a couple of (recent) leaked gameplay movies, but I voted "yes" because of the subscription model.
  Sawlstone

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Posts: 308

1/04/14 10:10:15 AM#27

 

What people don't understand that ESO's failure would have to mean it never launches. You don't kind of fail a test, you either do or do not. so if ESO launches, that's a success. Whether people play it is something totally misconstrued with the developing and launching of a mmorpg.

  Drucalion

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1/04/14 10:10:50 AM#28
I think you need to define failure for the purpose of this poll. The person who wrote that article doesn't seem to know the difference between failure, and failed to live up to expectations. Yeah so SWTOR failed to make to the kind of money they were hoping for but it's F2P option IMO is a great success. Same for TES, I doubt it will ever meet their expectations but after a year or so it will settle down into what ever business model makes them a little profit and it will just plod along, much like SWTOR today.
  Drucalion

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1/04/14 10:13:32 AM#29
And another thing lol. If a game makes more money than it cost to make then it is a success, just because it makes 1million a month instead of 100 million doesnt make it a failure.
  Sawlstone

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1/04/14 10:17:22 AM#30
Originally posted by Drucalion
And another thing lol. If a game makes more money than it cost to make then it is a success, just because it makes 1million a month instead of 100 million doesnt make it a failure.

And this only might mean it fails fiscally. My half finished Unity3d project is a failure, not a published finished game. People are so frustrating. 

  Gilllean

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1/04/14 10:18:24 AM#31

LONG TERM notion is such a JOKE Problem is in gamers first you dont know what a successful mmo is !  

Example if I like milk white Caucasian girls does this mean that rest of the girls in world are ugly ?Of course NOT

You see gamers have a horrably distructive un logical thinking and now in ERA or internet every stupid person have and opinion THEY came it by them self or was PUT IN their mind by social media they have an opinion.

 

I think ESO will BE MY CUP OF TEA I WILL JOIN SOME PVE WvsW Role play guild and will enjoy the game as much as I can 

Back to LONG TERM  which is inspired by WOW Vanilia rely people ? you want this back ? NON of you will play such game in 2014 you know why?  your spoiled !!!

IN PRESENT LONG TERM IN MMO CAN'T EXIST simply gamers are so damn spoiled.  I see ESO extremely successful if they focus on lore quest lore fans  and if they will expand ESO  lore  WITH OTHER continents of nirn return of OLD GODS new maps new quests new Dungeons new Raids New Features  WITH RANDOM OBLIVION PORTALS SPAWNING with random generated content inside  and TO FOCUS ON IMMERSION .

 

LONG TERM you say ?! and what you mean by it ?  If you will do 500 times one dungeon you will vomit when see it  MMO can be succeseful only if they expand and expand SOMETHING LIKE WOW in present DO you think WOW would have 7 mil subscribers at the moment it they kept the  Vanilia LOL no ! 

  Xarko

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1/04/14 10:20:03 AM#32

It will be a commercial success cuz of IP, but it will fail as an MMO.  Look at several last years and there is almost 100% chance it will fail to meet general expectations. I predict similar progress to GW2, people will play it to lvl cap, realise there is nothing to do and its PvP systems doesnt really work. Not to mention the lagfests !

Thats why my crystal ball says ;)

I'll probably give it a try because of lore and story if it proves to be of a decent quality and then leave quietly.

  Braindome

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1/04/14 10:20:13 AM#33

I think it will be a failure to 90% after the initial first month regarding Elder Scrolls fans and what they expect, the other 10% will play to max level within 3 months and 5% of those will quit, leaving 5% hanging around hoping and praying the game gets better.

Call it a success if you want I guess as initial sales will probably be good, but personally I don't consider that a success, especially considering the game heritage.

  Chewychomp

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1/04/14 10:28:14 AM#34
Its a EA game of course its going to fail badly, they haven't released a finished descent product in years.
  KyngBills

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1/04/14 10:31:34 AM#35
One thing specifically I think the Forbes article got wrong was when he commented that no one was asking for an Elder Scrolls MMO...Now...I realize this could be because I mostly play MMO's and my guildmates mostly play MMO's...But there had been conversations among us for years wondering if they would ever make an Elder scrolls MMO...Especially after Skyrim...So I'm not sure what he was talking about there...I believe there is a demand...Of course the game is going to have to be good or the demand won't matter much...
  kasta

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1/04/14 10:33:14 AM#36
It won't generate WoW like income for the developers.  It will be profitable.  Success to some, failure to others.  Who really cares other than the investors? 
  Agent_Joseph

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1/04/14 10:33:58 AM#37

as SP rpg  +  co-op game it ll be great but as mmorpg prolly not too much impressive

Have no idea how looking pvp ,it is only for what I am interested in that game.

only EVE is real MMO...but I am impressive with TSW

  NobleNerd

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OP  1/04/14 10:34:34 AM#38
Originally posted by Chewychomp
Its a EA game of course its going to fail badly, they haven't released a finished descent product in years.

Do you even know what game we are talking about here? EA is SWTOR... we are talking about ESO which is Zenimax/Bethesda.

  JJ82

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1/04/14 10:38:14 AM#39
Originally posted by ElRenmazuo
Originally posted by KyutaSyuko
I have to disagree mainly because, if I remember correctly, that article was mainly about console gamers like they're the only ones that exist anymore and they'll determine the fate of the game.  I'd risk my current savings on betting most TES players are actually PC gamers.  The guy's also basing his decision on the fact it'll be P2P rather than F2P or B2P which most MMO players on this forum seem to prefer the P2P model.

TES series sold way more on consoles than it did on PC.  Skyrim alone was 86% of its sales on consoles with 14% on PC.

 Not only that but the vast majority of PC TES players are heavy modders who mainly don't play MMORPGs. I know this is where someone who just so happens to be a TES fan and MMO fan will jump in and say I am wrong but then I will just point out that if most of them were MMORPG players, then why are they still playing Oblivion after 6+ years?

If they were MMORPG players they wouldn't be playing a SRPG for that long of time and still making mods for it. It goes against the very idea of being an MMORPG player except for a CASUAL MMORPG player, in which case, TESO still wont be a game for you because its end game PvP based created for hardcore players.

TESO is not targeting the vast majority of TES fans, something the writer ALSO pointed out. But like all fanboys, everyone is trying to just focus on him talking about subscriptions, something else he was correct about in his context. Subscriptions is a way to NOT target the TES audience which do not play subscription based games.

MAJORITY, that is what his context is. The majority of TES players are not MMORPG players.

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  killahh

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1/04/14 10:39:30 AM#40
Originally posted by NobleNerd
Originally posted by Chewychomp
Its a EA game of course its going to fail badly, they haven't released a finished descent product in years.

Do you even know what game we are talking about here? EA is SWTOR... we are talking about ESO which is Zenimax/Bethesda.

 

I know what game we are talking about, but what's bothering me is yet another post by someone who is bashing, seriously dude, if you are that blinded by your hatred of the game take those God-awful sunglasses off.

Gonada Dahung,over 20 years of mmorpg's and counting....Please Lord, let someone make a game that had all the awesomeness of UO, EQ and EVE...

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