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  User Deleted
1/01/14 4:29:50 PM#21
There have been dozens of people just like you that have successfully sued and won millions. It sounds like you have a strong case too, when was the last time you played?
  Zydari

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1/01/14 4:31:45 PM#22
Just shows that no one reads the EULA.

Experience demands that man is the only animal which devours his own kind, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor.

Thomas Jefferson

  Cobaltus

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1/01/14 4:39:34 PM#23

I truly am a lawyer, but one only needs a sixth grade education to answer your pathetic question:  (1) You repeatedly, over a long period of time, bought the product; (2) There was nothing missing from the product that you purchased; (3) You woke up from a New Year's Eve bender and realized you spent too much money on the game, (and that your girlfriend was a smelly fat pig); and as an aside (4) It is because of people like you that I went to law school. =Res ipsa loquitur.

  zSurrender

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1/01/14 4:40:11 PM#24

This is by far the stupidest post I've ever read in my life on any forum.

Dude, go cry about it.

  Lugors

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1/01/14 4:42:53 PM#25

I know we're feeding a troll, but we can't resist apparently. 

You paid them for a product, and then did not like the product. 

The prudent thing to do would be to stop paying for said product. 

 

  Cephus404

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1/01/14 4:59:46 PM#26
Originally posted by Zydari
Just shows that no one reads the EULA.

Or has an ounce of common sense.

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  Manestream

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1/01/14 5:00:43 PM#27
I have bought the game at release and every subsequent expansion and subscribed on the game for about 8 and a half yrs, not played it for past 4 months, rather then the 2 breaks I had previously (3mths and 6mths) 9 mths total and now a 4 mth break and thusfar I have not missed it at all. I don't hold blizzard to account, they run their game as they see fit and hey, I have had several yrs of enjoyment from playing it.
  Wizardry

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Perhaps tomorrow will be better.

1/01/14 5:02:02 PM#28
Originally posted by kalosjakar

please tell me you are kidding.

 

 

yo papa gino's that pizza i ate 2 years ago, yeah.... it wasn't that great, can I have my money back?

Don't mock that statement because YES there are actually laws that protect customers up to several years later depending where you live.

A perfect example would be if an employee laced the pizza with some kind of poison that causes long term damage.If 2 years later they traced all dead people as having ate from that pizza joint and entered the Hospitol that same day,then they would be sued for a lot of money.

Also just because some publisher has a lawyer write up a legal document,does not make it LAW.The law will ALWAYS preside over that digital agreement you enter into.They also have absolutely no right to change the game any way they see fit just because they say so,they still have to preside under the law,no exceptions.

A good argument would have to prove they mislead you into how much you would spend.Example the common topic on PAY TO WIN gaming.If they mislead you by having you spend say 20 bucks a month to compete,then after investing thousands all of a sudden they force you to spend 500 a month ,that would be grounds for  a lawsuit and full recovery and maybe more.

To understand it better you would need to think "monopoly" or price fixing.You might think a publisher has the right to charge whatever they want but they do not,it is for customer protection.A GIANT gaming operation known as HASBRO was sued by the USA government for just those reasons and of course they admitted guilt but got away easy with a settlement.

point being ,yes the law is quite inept at protecting customers but there is still law out there with a good lawyer IF of course you can prove they broke the law.

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  evianwater

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1/01/14 5:03:00 PM#29
no...Terms and Conditions...
  ste2000

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1/01/14 5:30:20 PM#30
Originally posted by Wizardry
Originally posted by kalosjakar

please tell me you are kidding.

 

 

yo papa gino's that pizza i ate 2 years ago, yeah.... it wasn't that great, can I have my money back?

Don't mock that statement because YES there are actually laws that protect customers up to several years later depending where you live.

Yes it is true, but there is a little problem when you accept the Eula (which is a binding contract btw)

You are actually accepting that "the game experience might change at any time" something that is clearly stated in the first few lines of the Eula.

Once you accept that term, you cannot complain that the game is not the same you used to play, because you clearly accepted to play it even though you were warned in advance.

If you notice, every time a Publisher updates the game there is generally a new Eula to sign.

This is an acknowledgement that the game has changed from the previous version and might play differently, so a new Eula is required to make sure that the user is fine playing a game that might be different from the version he played before and that could be different in the future..

Every major update requires a new Eula to accept, that's to avoid that a customer that signed an Eula 4 years ago complains 4 years after that the game has changed several times and it is not the game that has signed for.

So every time a game get updated the publisher submits a new Eula to sign, so to cover those situations.

 

Of course if blizzard turned WoW into Word Office then the OP might stand a chance............. but that's not the case.

WoW is still a game, it is still a MMO.............. it is just slightly different than the original version, it is not a different product.

  Dibdabs

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1/01/14 5:34:12 PM#31

You have no hope whatsoever of recourse against Blizzard.  You will just have to...

 

  flguy147

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1/01/14 5:38:05 PM#32
  c0796

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Whatever look you were going for...you missed.

1/01/14 5:40:45 PM#33

Heh, normally I would agree, but, if you're in the US, maybe you can pull it off. I've read so many cases where people have successfully won their suit when they and the Judge should be slapped upside the head.

If someone can sue McDonalds because they spilled coffee on themselves, then you sir just have to show up to court and say, your Honour, I'm here, and unhappy, I understand that in this country all someone has to do is look at me wrong and I can sue them.

  aRtFuLThinG

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1/01/14 5:47:25 PM#34
Originally posted by sludgebeard

I mean think about it, I played up till WOTLK, the game was drastically different back then, more grouping and open world pvp just to name a couple things.

 

I spent half a grand on this game, and I cant even install it and play for a minute because of how poorly designed and away from its original content the game has become. So my question is, do I have any right to legal recourse against Blizzard? Or am I just forced to play a game that is drastically different than what I agreed to originally?

Seriously, why do people who play mmos have this above type of ridiculous concept where your money spent DON'T depreciate with time and e-products are NOT real products?? :/

 

Hell if you bought a pair of designer shoes for $500 5 years ago you WOULD NOT ask for money back just because the brand changed the fashion style...

Or you WOULD NOT ask for money back on the food you ate just because they changed the favour...

 

You have already spent your money's worth and got your value for it. Get over it.

  Bruhza

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1/01/14 5:48:03 PM#35
THIS SOUNDS LIKE A JOB FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMON SENSE!
  killahh

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1/01/14 5:49:10 PM#36
wow, simply wow

Gonada Dahung,over 20 years of mmorpg's and counting....Please Lord, let someone make a game that had all the awesomeness of UO, EQ and EVE...

  LittleBoot

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1/01/14 5:54:49 PM#37
Originally posted by c0796

Heh, normally I would agree, but, if you're in the US, maybe you can pull it off. I've read so many cases where people have successfully won their suit when they and the Judge should be slapped upside the head.

If someone can sue McDonalds because they spilled coffee on themselves, then you sir just have to show up to court and say, your Honour, I'm here, and unhappy, I understand that in this country all someone has to do is look at me wrong and I can sue them.

Super-heated coffee sold in a drive-thru.  This is one of those headlines that sound ridiculous, but the content of the story actually  makes a lot of sense.  

The OP's comment however; well, it isn't really worthy of response.  

  ste2000

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1/01/14 5:56:21 PM#38

BTW....... I just love the title.

It has to be the only thread where the title contains more information than the body itself............. you can't miss it can you?

Great job OP, this is going to be an epic thread.

  Zapzap

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1/01/14 6:01:11 PM#39
Originally posted by godpuppet

Did anyone sue SoE over the pre/post CU Patch?

 

Dont think so.

 

Theres your answer sir

I believe people did sue SOE over the expansion on false advertising prior to the NGE patch. As the expansion contained tons of changes that were never discussed or told to the consumer which completely changed the nature of the game. The end result of that was SOE offered a full refund to anyone that purchased the expansion.

In the present case there is no allegations of false advertising, or fraud or trying to hide anything tp get someone to purchase the game or subscribe like in the case of SOE.  Here the OP is paying Blizzard per month to play a game each month not for future months.  if the game changes and he does not like the future design, direction or present content he can cancel his subscription.  The point here is he was paying Blizzard money not for future content but for present content.  Now if he had a long term 1 year subscription and Blizzard drastically changed their design he might have an argument. but that's not the case here. Even then that might be considered the risk of purchasing a cheaper long term subscription.  The simple answer here is the OP got value for what he paid for and if at anytime he was not satisfied with the product he could have cancelled.  They owe him nothing.

  TheLizardbones

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1/01/14 6:03:48 PM#40

If you're gonna be stupid, you gotta be tough.

I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.

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