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  calranthe

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OP  12/25/13 11:06:17 AM#21
Originally posted by A1learjet
Originally posted by winghaven1

Let me get this straight.

 

Have you tested/played it yet?

Oddly   My same thought

Yes I have and it isn't a bad mmo, I don't hate it in any way shape or form but it is formulaic mmo fodder with better than average graphics but it is not elder scrolls, in the sea of mmo games the one thing that is suposed to make it stand out and shine being an elder scrolls game is lacking if you are actually looking for "Elder scrolls online", no other way I can put it.

Let me expand on that without causing any issues, it is an mmo, it has some interesting ideas, yes I know it is beta so I am looking at it as a beta, it feels okay and it isn't a wow clone but it does not feel like an elder scrolls game and yes that is a huge issue.

Most elder scrolls fans I know would laugh at the idea of using the phrase end game with the words elder scrolls, and using the words RvRvR and PVP in the same sentence as elder scrolls just it just doesn't fit as a concept.

When a game license and sells itself as an Elder scrolls game but lacks the very things that actually make an elder scrolls for a lot of fans then it is sad, it isn't about hate or anger it is just a sinking feeling and that is how I felt as I explored one of the towns.

  bcbully

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12/25/13 11:09:12 AM#22

Funny, I cut my teeth on Oblivion. I had played all types of M.U.Ds and pen and paper games before it. After about 2 amazing months, I bought WoW (1 week into BC). I never looked back. My point being is ES lead me to mmorpgs. I can't stand the thought of playing by myself again. I look forward to ESO because of Oblivion.

 

 

  Thornrage

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12/25/13 11:31:46 AM#23

I will pre-order and I will play as long as the game keeps me satisfied. I cannot ask for more.

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  jdnewell

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12/25/13 11:51:45 AM#24
Originally posted by killahh
Your right, it is not hate, but the opinionated "I want this" attitude that is aggravating. I've played yed most, if not all the mmo's over that past 25 years, and as far as eso goes I have the same if not more hours invested in oblivion, Skyrim, and morrow wind. What I am is called a gamer:someone who loves to game, whether tabletop D&D, Console or computer. I have developed mods for games, been part of successful mmo games on the graphics side, and have managed to become an adult and have a solid family while doing it. Do I think eso will be like the single player game? No. Do I think it will have the lore? Yes. Do I want to experience the vision of a company daring to try to take on the beast that is eso? You bet. That's the attitude you should have IF YOU ARE A REAL GAMER, and even then it's OK not to be, just try to get it through your heads that everyone has a different vision how it should be.

Well said and I agree.

  Mackaveli44

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12/25/13 12:01:23 PM#25
Originally posted by rodarin

Well the more I hear the less inclined I am to buy it at this point.

 

I was already willing to accept some of the shortcomings but theyre mounting up rapidly.

 

The no AH and multiple guilds combined is a major negative.

 

The irony is the franchise is completely PvE but theyre trying to make PvP the major focus of the MMO product theyre putting out. The PvE 'end game' seems like a complete after thought and is just something they threw together last minute. Probably cutting and pasting existing stuff for the original race of the zone and upgrading it and putting it in for the visiting higher level players of a different alliance.

 

Major srikes that can be talked about without breaking NDA....

 

Sub game

No housing

No AH

Diminished 'end game' PvE

Extremely limited exploration options

 

 

Minor strikes against it....

 

PvP focused and PvP looks like a retooled version of several games meshed together

Completely unknown crafting, but with no AH crafting is moot

No apparent economy mini game (that might be a major one for some people)

 

There are a few positives, but they are not nearly enough to outweigh the known (what can be talked about) negatives. Once the NDA is lifted then people will get a little bit of each side but they will have to wait to see what side gains more the negative or the positive (at least in most peoples opinion).

Games that have subs tend to be higher quality games(if you think otherwise your extremely ignorant) so your reason for not wanting to play it because it has a sub is blah.  No AH?  Guilds can set up merchants to sell stuff so theres your AH, so what that you have to go to their merchants.  Its the same as going to the AH, just their own version of it.  Diminished End game?  You kidding me?  The game so far on paper sounds like it will have a LOT more to do then most, if not all MMO's that have come out in the previous years.  16 Expert difficulty dungeons mixed with Contested dungeons, mixed with the Adventure zones(Mix of group and raid) which those alone are going to be massive. And thats just the PvE side of it.   More then anything any previous games have had...  Your points are all null.  Than again, theyre your opinion but when you try to make a point on those, they just dont make sense.

 

Your claim that its PvP focused is extremely wrong.  Yes, Cyrodill is a big part of the game but that doesnt mean its the holy grail of the game. Its 1 zone vs the 19823 PvE zones... If you take a step backwards and look at everything thats PvE based, you may change your opinion about it being primarily PvP based.   Oh and need I mention a Darkness falls style dungeon?(DAoC massive open dungeon, massively fun)  If all these things that have been mentioned - 16 heroics, contested dungeons for groups/raids, Adventure zones hold true when in-game then I think your in for a surprise about the PvE.  I know for starters Im extremely excited for contested dungeos.  Every game post WoW/EQ2 era have been extremely instance based and thats a huuuuuuuuuuge turnoff.  Talking about disconnecting you from the world.  Ontop of all that content you have your character progression with skills/morphing/skill points.  So theres a lot of stuff to do, at least on paper.  How it shapes up in game is an entirely different beast.  It may turn out great, it may not, who knows but I do know that you basing your choice to play on those tidbits just seem pretty funny to be honest.  No offense or anything but look at all the stuff PvE wise that there is.

  kiltak

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Joined: 4/10/04
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12/25/13 12:09:50 PM#26

I didn't read whatever one else had to say so please forgive me on that front. However I did want to give my opinion on the subject of Elder Scroll Online. I played a few of the elder scrolls and thought that they would make wonderful MMO. I think it's hard to judge a game that is in beta. I also think it's hard to judge a game when you have no idea what the game will have later on down the road. MMO are hard to make and you have to focus on core content if you want to push out you're game in a timely fashion.

That being said I think the landscape of MMO is about to change. With Everquest Landmark I see the face of MMO changing forever. If the tools there building are as good as they claim and the game takes off I think it will have a massive impact on MMO across the board. I think with something like Landmark in a game like Elder Scroll would be truly amazing. 

I think Elder Scroll Online shows promise but it's a tad bit to early to tell. My personal opinion it could go either way. Right now I'm just going to wait till they get to alpha and then make up my mind. My one thought on Elder Scroll online as far as development is they need to use Skyrim as a base for it's design. Skyrim has been rather popular and people love the look and feel of the UI and Skill system as well as combat. However again as I said game is still in Beta and is at least a year away from being completed. Only time will tell one way or another.

  flguy147

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12/25/13 12:13:11 PM#27
People complaining about no AH but how they are implemented guild stores is one of the reasons i am excited about the game.  Makes it much more interesting.  Gives a reason for PVP instead of capture the flag like WAR.  Also you have to shop around different guild stores and different players will be known for the items they sell.  You have to defend your keep in order to make more money to sell your crafted goods so PVP is more important and actually affects the game. That means  you may stumble across some small keep and go inside and find a very cool looking helm to buy from a player owned store that you cant buy anywhere else in the game.    Going to the AH house and seeing 20 of the same weapons on the same AH or store isnt great to me.  Yes there maybe many crafters in the game that can make the same weapons but you have to find their store/keep to buy it and considering keeps will be changing factions, it wont always be in the same place.  Makes the world change a little actually which is very difficult to do in MMOs.
  udon

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Joined: 12/23/07
Posts: 1642

12/25/13 12:15:38 PM#28
Originally posted by kiltak

I didn't read whatever one else had to say so please forgive me on that front. However I did want to give my opinion on the subject of Elder Scroll Online. I played a few of the elder scrolls and thought that they would make wonderful MMO. I think it's hard to judge a game that is in beta. I also think it's hard to judge a game when you have no idea what the game will have later on down the road. MMO are hard to make and you have to focus on core content if you want to push out you're game in a timely fashion.

That being said I think the landscape of MMO is about to change. With Everquest Landmark I see the face of MMO changing forever. If the tools there building are as good as they claim and the game takes off I think it will have a massive impact on MMO across the board. I think with something like Landmark in a game like Elder Scroll would be truly amazing. 

I think Elder Scroll Online shows promise but it's a tad bit to early to tell. My personal opinion it could go either way. Right now I'm just going to wait till they get to alpha and then make up my mind. My one thought on Elder Scroll online as far as development is they need to use Skyrim as a base for it's design. Skyrim has been rather popular and people love the look and feel of the UI and Skill system as well as combat. However again as I said game is still in Beta and is at least a year away from being completed. Only time will tell one way or another.

I think one thing is safe to say for sure however.  With all of ESO's content being developed in house and no player generated content option there will never been even a fraction of the content available for ESO that there is for the older Elder Scrolls games.  They are banking on PVP  to fill the place of modding tools.  It really remains to be seen if that is going to turn out to be a good move or not.

  Distopia

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12/25/13 12:27:17 PM#29
Originally posted by udon
Originally posted by kiltak

I didn't read whatever one else had to say so please forgive me on that front. However I did want to give my opinion on the subject of Elder Scroll Online. I played a few of the elder scrolls and thought that they would make wonderful MMO. I think it's hard to judge a game that is in beta. I also think it's hard to judge a game when you have no idea what the game will have later on down the road. MMO are hard to make and you have to focus on core content if you want to push out you're game in a timely fashion.

That being said I think the landscape of MMO is about to change. With Everquest Landmark I see the face of MMO changing forever. If the tools there building are as good as they claim and the game takes off I think it will have a massive impact on MMO across the board. I think with something like Landmark in a game like Elder Scroll would be truly amazing. 

I think Elder Scroll Online shows promise but it's a tad bit to early to tell. My personal opinion it could go either way. Right now I'm just going to wait till they get to alpha and then make up my mind. My one thought on Elder Scroll online as far as development is they need to use Skyrim as a base for it's design. Skyrim has been rather popular and people love the look and feel of the UI and Skill system as well as combat. However again as I said game is still in Beta and is at least a year away from being completed. Only time will tell one way or another.

I think one thing is safe to say for sure however.  With all of ESO's content being developed in house and no player generated content option there will never been even a fraction of the content available for ESO that there is for the older Elder Scrolls games.  They are banking on PVP  to fill the place of modding tools.  It really remains to be seen if that is going to turn out to be a good move or not.

Might just be me, but I'm kinda glad about that, it just means to me I'll never move on from the SP games, as I love to mod them, now if I can just finish my Conan the Valorous mod I'll be happy.

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  MikePaladin

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12/25/13 12:39:12 PM#30
Yeah yeah we know you exist and your opinion is very important to me us )) You see not that hard to make some one  happy .
  Phry

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12/25/13 12:43:00 PM#31
Originally posted by flguy147
People complaining about no AH but how they are implemented guild stores is one of the reasons i am excited about the game.  Makes it much more interesting.  Gives a reason for PVP instead of capture the flag like WAR.  Also you have to shop around different guild stores and different players will be known for the items they sell.  You have to defend your keep in order to make more money to sell your crafted goods so PVP is more important and actually affects the game. That means  you may stumble across some small keep and go inside and find a very cool looking helm to buy from a player owned store that you cant buy anywhere else in the game.    Going to the AH house and seeing 20 of the same weapons on the same AH or store isnt great to me.  Yes there maybe many crafters in the game that can make the same weapons but you have to find their store/keep to buy it and considering keeps will be changing factions, it wont always be in the same place.  Makes the world change a little actually which is very difficult to do in MMOs.

The problem is the 'guild' stores are in cyrodil, thats a fail, because there are multiple instances of cyrodil, one for each 'campaign' which your put into when you create your 'toon' you can switch later on to one your guild is in, but if your in multiple guilds, you probably won't be able to access the stores of each guild, unless they are going to make the guild stores span multiple instances. Personally i see it as a design flaw, and the only reason that the stores are going to be in cyrodil is because they couldn't put them outside of it, as the 'zones' outside of cyrodil are 'fluid' and are based on player numbers rather than 'static' zones. I just don't see it being worth the effort personally, they would have been better off with a cross server/instances auction house, it would have made more sense than what they appear to be trying to cobble together, i mean i could be wrong, but looking at it at the moment its hard to see it as anything other than it is.

  Raquis

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12/25/13 12:46:27 PM#32

I as a fan and lots of players wanted an elders scrolls game that you can share.

so ill pay even though I am not happy with the sub.

its just one of those things ill play any good rpg game and with others its what I wanted.

lots of online rpg games coming end of 2014.

  Agent_Joseph

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12/25/13 1:20:25 PM#33

The Elder Scrolls MMORPG,should to be sand box without any limitations , mmo based on players interactions .

 

only EVE is real MMO...but I am impressive with TSW

  udon

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12/25/13 1:30:19 PM#34
Originally posted by Pigglesworth

All these people that just want a single player game should go back into their mother's basement, log into whatever single-player ES game they want and just play with them self all day. Its what they like. Most of them would be playing with themselves in an MMO anyways, because they are obviously incapable of finding any friends, even in the online world.

So, if you only like single player games, why are you even on a MMO forum?

So, go play with yourself. That way you don't have to hear all of us telling you that you are doing it wrong.

Who's complaining that ESO isn't single player?  Some people want the game to be a multiplayer version of the Single Player series rather than (insert generic MMO name here) with a Elder Scrolls skin added on top of it.  I have personally wanted to play a Elder Scrolls game with my friends for many years now and unfortunately the more we learn about this game the less likely it appears that is going to happen.  I am hoping that I'm pleasantly surprised and all the complaints I have heard is nothing more than overreacting but I guess in 4 months we shall see.

  artemisentr4

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12/25/13 1:46:12 PM#35
Originally posted by Phry
Originally posted by flguy147
People complaining about no AH but how they are implemented guild stores is one of the reasons i am excited about the game.  Makes it much more interesting.  Gives a reason for PVP instead of capture the flag like WAR.  Also you have to shop around different guild stores and different players will be known for the items they sell.  You have to defend your keep in order to make more money to sell your crafted goods so PVP is more important and actually affects the game. That means  you may stumble across some small keep and go inside and find a very cool looking helm to buy from a player owned store that you cant buy anywhere else in the game.    Going to the AH house and seeing 20 of the same weapons on the same AH or store isnt great to me.  Yes there maybe many crafters in the game that can make the same weapons but you have to find their store/keep to buy it and considering keeps will be changing factions, it wont always be in the same place.  Makes the world change a little actually which is very difficult to do in MMOs.

The problem is the 'guild' stores are in cyrodil, thats a fail, because there are multiple instances of cyrodil, one for each 'campaign' which your put into when you create your 'toon' you can switch later on to one your guild is in, but if your in multiple guilds, you probably won't be able to access the stores of each guild, unless they are going to make the guild stores span multiple instances. Personally i see it as a design flaw, and the only reason that the stores are going to be in cyrodil is because they couldn't put them outside of it, as the 'zones' outside of cyrodil are 'fluid' and are based on player numbers rather than 'static' zones. I just don't see it being worth the effort personally, they would have been better off with a cross server/instances auction house, it would have made more sense than what they appear to be trying to cobble together, i mean i could be wrong, but looking at it at the moment its hard to see it as anything other than it is.

I believe they said that you can port into a Keep from the PvE area. But only if the Keep is not under siege.

 

Could be that you won't have to run to the Keep or PvP, just port there, buy, then port out. They could make it so you can port into any of the guilds your are a part of regardless of campaign. As long as you are booted out if a siege starts and or you can't leave the Keep if you port in.

 

There is also a "guest" option to enter into any campaign. So if you join up with others that are going shopping at a Keep, you should be able to port into any campaign as well.

Edit: We could see a number of "caravans" from PvE major hubs with the "guest" option. A crafter from a crafting guild lets players know that they have a lot of items for sale and will be leaving soon. Join the group and port into the guild Keep for shopping, then port out when you are done.

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  DamonVile

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12/25/13 1:46:50 PM#36

It's probably a good thing all these people wanting a multiplayer skyrim aren't going to play. If the game isn't what they want, the last thing I'd want to hear is them constantly whining about it in chat.

It's going to happen of course because they'll play anyway...but it would be nice if they didn't.

  McSire

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12/25/13 1:55:48 PM#37

The thing that amazes me is, how many people are comparing SINGLE PLAYER GAMES such as Oblivion, or Skyrim. To ONLINE MULTIPLAYER/MMO GAMES, such as ESO.

Please stop, it only makes you look stupid.

  NobleNerd

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12/25/13 1:56:39 PM#38
Originally posted by calranthe

This is my opinion, not fact and I do not really mind if anyone else does not follow it.

Why post it here then ? If you are not playing just move on.

Well the simple answer is that this forum both for positive and negative for everyone who had or has an interest in this game be it to love or hate.

I know the company that is doing the game is a different company than the one that does Skyrim etc but this is an Elder scrolls game and just be held up to the past and history of these games.

Having been immersed in the lore and game play of the series since the original game which I have fond memories of my wife watching me play and Daggerfall with its shops and huge world single handed started my wife's gaming addiction.

My Morrowind save has over 2400 hours on it, Oblivion 1100 and as of this morning my Skyrim game is just nudging 604 hours.

So as a fan of the series and player of the games I am heavily invested in those titles, I spent a few hours last night with some not too accurate stats and realized that It would take me over 17 years of constant play to get through all the mod content on nexus and steam for skyrim alone.

March 2006 Oblivion came out and 7 years later if you use the latest meshes and enhancements it looks better than ESO, Skyrim with a decent pc you came make absolutely breath taking even morrowind is being shoe horned into the skyrim engine.

Bethesda makes good games but it is the tools and open ended architecture that cause it to surpass the lifetime of most other fantasy games.

At the same time I have played mmo's since muds and meridian 59 nearly every online title out there, currently I spend time in TSW, STO and Eve online.

My hope for ESO was a co-operative version of skyrim 4-8-16 players server mechanics like a modable minecraft server that people could come play in your world and adventure with you, open to all skyrim content available both original as well as nexus and steam the only limit being what the server owner decided would be on there.

Maybe I am the only one who wanted that I don't know but thinking about the elder scrolls as a genre in its own right and knowing that no development team in the world will be able to create and give content at the level of the mod people can I realize at best ESO will be a RvRvR competent mmo with ES lore and skin.

It just isn't for me, hell I will probably still be able to play skyrim in 7 years and will be amazed if ESO is still around then.

Just came to the conclusion that I do not need the ESO that is being created for us.

I do not hate it, sad at a lost chance to make something pretty unique after all imagine a co-op version or skyrim with access to all the mods available from quests to houses from races to item 17+ years of content for you and friends to play through.

I have hopes for wildstar and other mmo games but ESO is just stepping into a realm where it can never fill the world people have been playing in for 10 years already.

The company doing the game is Zenimax online. Zenimax is Bethesda, it is just a different division of the SAME company! 

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  muppetpilot

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12/25/13 1:58:47 PM#39
Originally posted by Pigglesworth

All these people that just want a single player game should go back into their mother's basement, log into whatever single-player ES game they want and just play with them self all day. Its what they like. Most of them would be playing with themselves in an MMO anyways, because they are obviously incapable of finding any friends, even in the online world.

So, if you only like single player games, why are you even on a MMO forum?

So, go play with yourself. That way you don't have to hear all of us telling you that you are doing it wrong.

And if you don't know how to speak to people decently, or get your point across without insulting someone else, then why are YOU on an MMO forum?

From the wording of your post, all of it completely unnecessary and uncalled for, it sounds as if YOU are the one who is incapable of finding any friends.  People who are happy and satisfied with themselves generally don't feel the need to belittle others, either in forums or in real life.  The hatred and vitriol in posts like yours tells the rest of us everything we need to know about you.  What a lonely, miserable existence you must lead.

When's the last time YOU came out of the basement, eh? 

  Rhazmuz

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12/25/13 2:00:25 PM#40

Personally I dont want the SKyrim ecperience in a Co-op setting. Im more looking for the ES feel infused in a MMO setting. To that end I havent seen anything causing me major concerns so far.

 

I will try it out, and see how it plays/feels, and then I will make my opinion if it is something I will keep with.

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