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  User Deleted
12/17/13 4:24:15 PM#141
Interesting you pointed this game to grab WoW sub. I won't be playing this game, I do not enjoy cartoon games. Same reason I didn't play WoW. I prefer real world looks to my games. I skipped WoW and  played GW. I also skipped Rodger Rabbit to watch Die Hard.
  muppetpilot

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12/17/13 4:39:07 PM#142
Originally posted by Foomerang

I think WoW just may take its biggest subscription hit when this game launches. And I think Blizzard knows it.

Yes, because all of the other "WoW-killers" we have seen over the past nine years have been hugely successful, haven't they?

How many of those games are still even operating under a sub model?  Zero, I do believe.

WoW is losing subs because it is approaching TEN years old, not because of some outside factor.  Nothing lasts forever.  It is utterly unbelievable, the fact that WildStar isn't even out yet and it's being heralded as something magical.

I'm pretty sure the thing Blizzard "knows" better than anything else is how to laugh all the way to the bank while watching their competition go from sub to f2p.

And no, I don't play WoW.  I have in the past but it's been quite a while.  But I certainly know better than to make these "prophetic" posts.

  Axeshun

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12/17/13 4:51:33 PM#143

WoW killers....right.....

 

I am actually more interested to see if Blizz can unseat LoL?Dota 2 in the moba market.  

 

This WoW killer stuff  is way beyond ridiculous to even rationalize the thought.

  Velocinox

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12/17/13 7:05:28 PM#144

How can this kill WoW?

It IS WoW...

'Sandbox MMO' is a PTSD trigger word for anyone who has the experience to know that anonymous players invariably use a 'sandbox' in the same manner a housecat does.


No game is more fun than the one you can't play, and no game is more boring than the one you've become familiar with.


How to become a millionaire:
Start with a billion dollars and make an MMO.

  RizelStar

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12/17/13 7:10:54 PM#145
...lmao

I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.

I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.

P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)

Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.

  Tokken

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12/17/13 7:12:18 PM#146

No, Wildstar in no Wow. There are many differences.

I like the character and creature models better in WOW.

I can't say anymore but they are very different on many levels.

UO, EQ, DAoC, SWG, WOW, EQ2, CoH, CoX, VG, Aion, STO, CO, DCUO, LOTRO, Tera, SWTOR, GW2, DP, NW, TSW, MH, DDO, Rift, WS, ESO, Trove, LM

  RizelStar

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We all breathe and we all die.

12/17/13 7:15:15 PM#147
Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by Kyleran
It's missing one very key element that Wow has, a popular IP behind it.

This alone will hamper it's success as the average WOW player will likely never hear of it.

Its also missing Blizzard.

Also missing WoW engine and combat.

Also missing years of loot earned and friendships formed over the years of WoW play.

Missing is the emotional connection to years put into playing your character.

 

I mean it's combat is more enjoyable but that's just my opinion, but the third thing you posted is actually why WoW still has a lot of subs and why they loose and get back subs..lucky bastards made it right in time.(The time where p2p was legit the best choice)

[Time invested]

I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.

I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.

P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)

Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.

  Bruthor

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12/19/13 11:41:17 PM#148
I'm personally very excited for this game. From what I understand the combat is very fluid, there are some WoW developers involved in the Dev team, and there's Open World PvP... sounds fantastic to me. Unfortunately the business model is $20 a month, or you can earn enough in game currency within that month to afford the subscription fee without paying anything. This will most likely be my personal "next major MMORPG" when it comes out, and will remain as such until Blizzard's Titan comes out. 
  Dauntis

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12/20/13 12:02:30 AM#149

I think this game has the mass appeal to lure in non-mmo players and mmo players alike.

I recently returned to WoW and I think their certainly is a segment of the population that are looking for something else, but with some comforting familiarity. No WildStar is not a WoW clone it offers quite a bit of different features, however it does have a lot of things that will be familiar for WoW players and make it an easy transition for a lot of them. I think WildStar will bubble huge and could certainly be that next big MMO, it has polish and an attractiveness that many mmos lack, it will draw in non gamers again, it just may take time for it to reach the broader audience without some advertising outside the gaming community.

I would like to give an opinion on this post, but if I agree I will offend people who disagree. While if I disagree my comment will be seen as inflammatory. Either way I will get banned by this site full of the most delicate flowers in online gaming. Ban people for giving honest opinions... beautiful. Unfortunately I still like the articles.

  IceAge

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12/20/13 8:12:06 AM#150

Am I missing something? The OP said that Wildstar will be having a great impact in WoW subs and not that it will kill WoW. Your only argument against op is "hey, not another WoW killer, post , thread, etc", where he was just saying that WS will be a threat to WoW. 

In fact, the only "WoW killer" line came from trolls. GG :)

PS: Yes, WS will be big and it will have a big impact to WoW subs. Deal with it .. 

Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy?
Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!

  AzurePrower

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Ahh yes, "Hypers." The people who praise and hate every MMORPG... We've dismissed that claim.

12/20/13 8:15:46 AM#151

We all know that it is a given that this won't even scratch WoW. So the real question is whether or not this MMO will be a success.

And I have the trump card to counter claim Wild Star's success:

NC Soft.


Granted they could possibly redeem themselves. But I don't have high hopes for it.

Had the same feelings about SWTOR. Looked interesting to play. But the company behind it didn't have a good track record.

  Thessik_Irontail

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12/20/13 6:28:01 PM#152
Originally posted by AzurePrower

We all know that it is a given that this won't even scratch WoW. So the real question is whether or not this MMO will be a success.

And I have the trump card to counter claim Wild Star's success:

NC Soft.


Granted they could possibly redeem themselves. But I don't have high hopes for it.

Had the same feelings about SWTOR. Looked interesting to play. But the company behind it didn't have a good track record.

Sorry but Wildstar is amazing and if you were in beta playing it you would know that. Wildstar will not only make a huge scratch in WoW, I am predicting that after a few years, WoW will be #2 mmo behind Wildstar. 

The game is that good, and I dont care who believes me at this point since most are forming opinions on failures of previous MMOs. Wildstar does everything WoW does, in much the same way WoW does, only it does it all better. It is basically WoW++ and people love WoW, they are just bored of the same setting classes races, etc.. Wildstar offers all new stuff.

Just wait, spring 2014, the start of Wildstars rise to #1

  urbanmech

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12/20/13 10:10:15 PM#153
Originally posted by Thessik_Irontail
Originally posted by AzurePrower

We all know that it is a given that this won't even scratch WoW. So the real question is whether or not this MMO will be a success.

And I have the trump card to counter claim Wild Star's success:

NC Soft.


Granted they could possibly redeem themselves. But I don't have high hopes for it.

Had the same feelings about SWTOR. Looked interesting to play. But the company behind it didn't have a good track record.

Sorry but Wildstar is amazing and if you were in beta playing it you would know that. Wildstar will not only make a huge scratch in WoW, I am predicting that after a few years, WoW will be #2 mmo behind Wildstar. 

The game is that good, and I dont care who believes me at this point since most are forming opinions on failures of previous MMOs. Wildstar does everything WoW does, in much the same way WoW does, only it does it all better. It is basically WoW++ and people love WoW, they are just bored of the same setting classes races, etc.. Wildstar offers all new stuff.

Just wait, spring 2014, the start of Wildstars rise to #1

Its just WOW 2.0, completely boring. Go to quest giver, marked with a !, go to area and click/kill x amount of things. Within 20 minutes I had the been there done that feel.

  User Deleted
12/20/13 10:21:49 PM#154
Originally posted by Foomerang

 


Originally posted by colddog04
You were the last person I expected to make a WoW killer thread.

 

haha believe me, I'm not saying it as a fan. In fact, this game hasn't really appealed to me as of yet. But looking at the design and systems of this game, it really does look like a sequel to WoW. And that may end up taking away a lot of subs.

Except that the only thing keep so many people playing WoW is other people.  Most that I know of seem to be playing *in spite of* WoW's "features" like stylized graphics etc..  People are tired of WoW, and simply making a better version of WoW isn't going to do much.

  Coated

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12/20/13 11:19:40 PM#155

A clone kills a clone...

No matter who comes out victorious here, you will be playing WOW. You can slap a different name on it, but it's still WOW.

  GeezerGamer

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12/20/13 11:49:18 PM#156

There hasn't been an MMO yet that hurt another MMO by stealing its active playerbase. Why do we still have this discussion?

It's the sad state of the genre. The next big title has as many threads discussing issues with it's business model than issues with the game itself.

  Raquis

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Posts: 361

12/20/13 11:50:37 PM#157
I don't like wow but that game will never die they will just make it free when titan comes.
  Bakkoda24

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Posts: 244

It's a whole new game.

12/20/13 11:57:49 PM#158
Originally posted by urbanmech
Originally posted by Thessik_Irontail
Originally posted by AzurePrower

We all know that it is a given that this won't even scratch WoW. So the real question is whether or not this MMO will be a success.

And I have the trump card to counter claim Wild Star's success:

NC Soft.


Granted they could possibly redeem themselves. But I don't have high hopes for it.

Had the same feelings about SWTOR. Looked interesting to play. But the company behind it didn't have a good track record.

Sorry but Wildstar is amazing and if you were in beta playing it you would know that. Wildstar will not only make a huge scratch in WoW, I am predicting that after a few years, WoW will be #2 mmo behind Wildstar. 

The game is that good, and I dont care who believes me at this point since most are forming opinions on failures of previous MMOs. Wildstar does everything WoW does, in much the same way WoW does, only it does it all better. It is basically WoW++ and people love WoW, they are just bored of the same setting classes races, etc.. Wildstar offers all new stuff.

Just wait, spring 2014, the start of Wildstars rise to #1

Its just WOW 2.0, completely boring. Go to quest giver, marked with a !, go to area and click/kill x amount of things. Within 20 minutes I had the been there done that feel.

You must feel that with every MMO. *sadface* You poor thing, you.

  Magicabbage

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12/20/13 11:59:10 PM#159

It doesn't have Dwarfs; therefore, WILL NOT be a "WoW killer" period

 

  kabitoshin

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12/21/13 12:11:22 AM#160

From what they say that this games going to be really hard, so doubt it will be PUG friendly, and only a small percent of those PUGs will complete the dungeons. Part of the reason I think WoW is soo popular cause it's very PUG friendly and has its raids watered down for anyone to be able to complete. I see PUGS being very stressful in Wildstar, a wipe will happen someone will either leave, or rage on someone, this happens a lot but Wildstar has some challenging content and might happen several times in 1 dungeon.

Hopefully they stress mechanics early on and make new players learn the game, this is something all MMO's should stress and skip altogether. Not all of us have been playing since 1999, and are very adapt to this genre.

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