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General Discussion  » Possibly the biggest threat to WoW so far

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12/13/13 9:08:39 AM#21

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12/13/13 9:11:09 AM#22
3 of my 4 classes in college we've talked about Wildstar. Everyone's getting it LOL. :)


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12/13/13 9:11:40 AM#23

It's still too early to tell - it's just not as popular as it may seem. To the regular crowd going to these sites, it may appear like that but it's not that mainstream. It's a solid game and their marketing guys are pretty creative, but I'm just saying the initial impact won't be so large to be deemed as a 'threat'.


After that initial hype, the 1-2 month phase comes in to judge how the game will fare in the long run. All in all, it's looking to be another GW2. Before we get into that, let's just wait and see.


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12/13/13 9:12:01 AM#24
"This game is the WoW killer!'          Never heard that one ten times before......

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12/13/13 9:16:49 AM#25
HAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!  <slaps knee> BWAHAHAHAAAAAA!!! Oh man that was some seriously funny stuff and I don't even play WOW anymore. lol!

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12/13/13 9:25:09 AM#26
Originally posted by DeniZg
Originally posted by Foomerang


Originally posted by patience13
When you say better then all these wow clones...what kind of sub numbers are you predicting for WildStar?


I dont know what the subs will be for Wildstar, but I do think this game has the potential to pull a lot of NA/UK subs from WoW..and keep em.

Honestly, I think Wildstar will hit SWTOR's player base (or what's left of it) harder than WoW's. Whether they will be able to overcome unknown IP, depends on the marketing hype, which I think they will increase a lot more as the launch approaches.

To be honest i think SWTORs player base has little interest in a game that looks almost like wow and is directed at even younger audience. The part that has already left for wow. The rest that still play wont exchange SW world for this thing. We'll see.


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12/13/13 9:35:01 AM#27

Honestly, this game looks like SWTOR and WoW had a baby. It brings nothing new besides an IP.

I dub thee Star WarCraft!

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12/13/13 9:35:43 AM#28

I disagree.

I do not think that Wildstar offers anything that would give significant portion of Warcraft's players a reason to leave their game.

WoW's players are either happy with the game which means they will most likely stick to it for years to come or unhappy which means they would leave anyways. I think the percentage of players who are subscribed waiting for a slightly different copy of their game to come, so that they could switch to it is very low.

Yes, WoW will be losing subs due to the stage of product lifecycle it is at which is called "Decline" for a reason. It is a natural process which is relevant for vast majority of products. I believe it is what people here call "the game will kill itself".

Just try to log in the game and ask people about Wildstar. You will see most people will have no idea what it is. It is like before GW2 was released. This forum was full of people predicting that it will kill WoW. Back then, I was in WoW everyday and talked to its players. Practically none of them knew about GW 2 release or simply did not care. What they cared about was the raid in calendar and chating with their friends / guildmates they knew for years.

I am quite certain that no game will take away significant part of WoW's subs numbers. Just look at the games that are being developed. Such game would have to be a genre changer, not a game that is practically the same with different IP and slight modifications. It is not impossible for a game to take away WoW's subs,but I think it is rather improbable considering the products launched or announced since 2004. Maybe such game will be announced tomorrow.


Waiting for L2 EU Classic


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12/13/13 9:36:45 AM#29
How many people who leave wow are really looking to play wow only different.


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12/13/13 9:43:53 AM#30
Originally posted by coretex666

Practically none of them knew about GW 2 release or simply did not care.

What they cared about was the raid in calendar and chating with their friends / guildmates they knew for years.

i agree -  most existing sub mmo gamers tend to stick w what they already know


I remember when WOW launched, I had a tough time trying to get EQ friends to try it


despite being a smash success, it took WOW 5 months to reach 1.5 million



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12/13/13 9:48:26 AM#31

I think we have a definite contender for the 'Joke of the Day' award


seriously though, Wildstar may, or may not be a decent game, but the next WoW killer, not in a million.

Too few classes, too 'instanced' and too 'cartoony' and if TESO releases too close, or just before it does, then it might even disappear into obscurity, and i don't even like TESO


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12/13/13 9:50:31 AM#32
A lot of people are also playing WoW on old computers. I have a on old computer at home (GTX 460 lol) and I can still play WoW at ultra, but Wildstar (not sure if I can write this...) plays at 10-20 FPS at best with everything at low.

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12/13/13 10:04:31 AM#33

Isn't this what we always say every time a good looking and well marketing team for a MMO comes close to launch? Nothing will de-throne WoW. WoW does the MMO market right at targeting casual player base. I'm not a fan boy i went through my fair share of MMO's




GW2 (no considered a MMORPG)







and many others

and their all let downs in one way or another

WoW was my first MMO when vanilla was released and that was pure awesome at the taste of a MMO and i played every Xpack it has come out for WoW and i keep coming back to this game for some reason

1 - There are a lot of players

2 - The people you meet in guilds and on adventures are awesome

3- the fluid combat and animations (This is big for me)

4- Content

and many other things i can;t think of right now (Its the morning here)


No doubt i'll get Wildstar and ESO but i wont be surprised after a month i quit. I always like blizzards game as there the one that always suck me into the game aside from Diablo 3 (which was a total fuck up)


Edit: Not saying WoW is perfect it has some faults also (gear grinding , quest hub grinding) but their is just somthing about WoW i like and i keep coming back after trying many other games


Edit edit: If a game does not please me in the first 1-10 levels then i lose interest in the game.


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12/13/13 11:00:46 AM#34

IMHO, will this game kill Wow? No, Only the game developers can do that themselves.

Will handful of players leave to play it? maybe.


Tbh i think any game released next year and beyond will be healthy competition for Wow (Think competition is a much better word than "Wow killer"), i say this because blizzard aren't exactly trying to redefine the genre themselves, we've had the same old same old for past two expansions with little features added here and there, but nothing to gawp over. I've been hoping blizzard would raise the bar and set new standards, but instead they seem to be missing it themselves completely. 


So to round off, no the game wont kill Wow, but it will provide some competition, so will ESO, Everquest and many other titles released in the future, unless blizzard  fix (Leveling and content difficulty pre-raiding) and improve what they have.



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12/13/13 12:09:58 PM#35
The idea that WoW can only kill itself is pretty stupid.. There is no lifecycle for MMOs - most flame out early. But others like WoW kept growing into the second and third expansion well beyond the point they should be trending down. Some grow slowly but never go down like Eve.

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12/13/13 12:13:01 PM#36
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12/13/13 12:15:03 PM#37
Originally posted by DMKano

It wont do jack to WoW (or other games)

Only WoW can kill itself, just like other games have.

This imo has been proven over and over again.

Also WoW didn't make a serious impact on any of the previous games either.

Rift at release was "wow done better" - Rift today is vastly different and stands on its own, but it made no impact on WoW.

GW2, FF14ARR..… no impact.

Wildstar won't be any different.

IMO folks who love WoW - stick with WoW.


100% accurate statement.  I have co-workers who play WoW and nothing but.  They don't even know other games exist.


And for the record I used to believe the only thing that could kill WoW was WoW.  Now I believe it to no0t be true.  WoW will be around forever.

Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!

Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!


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12/13/13 12:17:23 PM#38
I don't think this game will hit as hard as you think. I think the game will do fine. I'm not impressed by it at all. I think it will do fine on it's own, but nothing close to a "WoW killer". Sorry

Who said this won't be perfect after all we know what is right
And the sounds of bodies clashing is enough to make them cry.
You know this cannot be perfect even when it is feeling right.
And the sound of bodies crashing echo through the night.


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12/13/13 12:18:44 PM#39
Originally posted by Foomerang


Originally posted by colddog04
You were the last person I expected to make a WoW killer thread.


haha believe me, I'm not saying it as a fan. In fact, this game hasn't really appealed to me as of yet. But looking at the design and systems of this game, it really does look like a sequel to WoW. And that may end up taking away a lot of subs.

There we go again with beating this dead horse.

Some people just never learn.

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12/13/13 12:31:07 PM#40

Wildstar is not as big of a threat to WoW as all the anti-WoW people on this site would like to think it is.  It will be a NICHE title, just like 95% of all other MMO's that have come out in the last 5 years.  

WoW = years of friendships + significant time investment/progression + nearly timeless "stylized graphics" + strong IP (lore)

Wildstar's graphics are going to turn off a lot of are the lame telegraphed attacks.   Instead of feeling like "stylized" graphics it looks (and acts) like a bad Saturday morning cartoon (IMHO) - some people will enjoy that but I do not think it is going to be as big as some people hope on this site.  I also no longer trust NCSOFT as a company after what I've seen with the GW2 and Aion cash shops - going B2P + Sub is the only way this game will survive under NcSoft so all the fans better hope enough people enjoy it enough for it not to go F2P.  For those looking forward to it I hope it turns out great, but I have zero interest.

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