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  Maejohl

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12/09/13 1:52:40 AM#61
Sorry but Eve is a bland, dull and lifeless husk of a game in combat terms compared even to DFUW.

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  DarthRaiden

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12/09/13 3:34:18 AM#62
Originally posted by Holophonist
Originally posted by Tibernicuspa

Almost every thread that gets made becomes derailed by 4-5 dedicated trolls who on several occasions have said that they don't play the game, yet they feel the need to comment on every Darkfall thread about how dead it is (even though they aren't subscribed)

I honestly don't understand it. I don't understand how you can NOT play a game and still find a reason to go actively try to destroy it. Do they really think that by sabotaging DFUW that they'll get DFO back? They won't. This is it. Even if they kill DFUW, they're just hurting their chances for a hardcore full loot pvp game in the future because people will point to DFUW and say "look! those games always fail!" There's no reason to try to sabotage this game other than their feelings were hurt by AV. It's pathetic.

No one else is needed to destroy  anything. AV handles that all by themselves.

Even with no updates for 1,5 years the DFO forums have been relative peacefull, that was AV period of grace given to them by the players to see if the promises for the DF2010 announcement hit the server.

That didn't happen....grace period over.

Only results count from now on...

PS: just a brief visit on the official forum reveals even that those WHO PLAY are overly unhappy with AV  and have thousands of reasons to criticise DF:UW and the progress to get finmally a working game and get it out of  Beta.

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  User Deleted
12/09/13 4:43:41 AM#63
Originally posted by Maejohl
Sorry but Eve is a bland, dull and lifeless husk of a game in combat terms compared even to DFUW.
 

Wormhole PVP, go.

  Scrappy_Doo

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12/10/13 12:43:16 PM#64
Originally posted by Holophonist

I don't think it is a turd. I'd sooner play DFUW over 95% of MMOs on the market. What I'm saying is you guys who hate on Darkfall aren't giving it the credit its due for being the kind of game it is. Also anytime anybody even starts a conversation about comparing the two, somebody usually breaks out into a wall of text rant about things they prefer about DFO, which usually includes a lot of hyperbole and personal preference, so it's impossible to respond to. If you look at DFUW objectively, it's really not that bad. They're adding things slowly but surely. I'm not sure what else you can reasonably expect. The only thing that I think you can objectively blame AV for is being TERRIBLE with timelines/communication. But that isn't a substantive complain. 

 

And I don't necessarily expect AV to do anything. I'm not banking on them doing anything. I would still play DFUW over almost any other MMO. In fact the main reason I'm not playing DFUW is because of the terrible community. You're just ruining the game for the people who like it. And why? Because it's different from DFO? 

 

 

I don't think you are looking at DF:UW objectively either.  You claim that those that dislike DF:UW are unwarranted and should just move on or that they are damaging the game somehow.  I say that those that like DF:UW don't know any better, and in thier own way are damaging the game by leading new players on and allowing the devs to think thier game is good as it is.  You keep stating that DF:UW is the best pvp full loot of its kind....its the only pvp full loot of its kind so comparing a game to nothing and then calling it the best is like winning a contest with no competitors.  I would rather play nothing then a shitty game, but that is my opinion.  Why exactly should I be chastized for speaking my opinion but you are allowed to come here and tell everyone that the game is the best thing since sliced bread?  I've played DF:UW and I've played DFO, SB, UO, DAoC and the other pvp loot conquest games that have been out over the years and DF:UW is the worst of them.  You keep talking about the people that are complaining about DF:UW and not playing it yet you just admitted that you no longer play DF:UW and yet you come here to defend it.

  boris20

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Joined: 7/26/07
Posts: 88

12/10/13 12:56:06 PM#65

 

 

I don't think you are looking at DF:UW objectively either.  You claim that those that dislike DF:UW are unwarranted and should just move on or that they are damaging the game somehow.  I say that those that like DF:UW don't know any better, and in thier own way are damaging the game by leading new players on and allowing the devs to think thier game is good as it is.  You keep stating that DF:UW is the best pvp full loot of its kind....its the only pvp full loot of its kind so comparing a game to nothing and then calling it the best is like winning a contest with no competitors.  I would rather play nothing then a shitty game, but that is my opinion.  Why exactly should I be chastized for speaking my opinion but you are allowed to come here and tell everyone that the game is the best thing since sliced bread?  I've played DF:UW and I've played DFO, SB, UO, DAoC and the other pvp loot conquest games that have been out over the years and DF:UW is the worst of them.  You keep talking about the people that are complaining about DF:UW and not playing it yet you just admitted that you no longer play DF:UW and yet you come here to defend it.

I agree completely with you

  DarthRaiden

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12/10/13 1:11:21 PM#66
Originally posted by Scrappy_Doo
Originally posted by Holophonist

I don't think it is a turd. I'd sooner play DFUW over 95% of MMOs on the market. What I'm saying is you guys who hate on Darkfall aren't giving it the credit its due for being the kind of game it is. Also anytime anybody even starts a conversation about comparing the two, somebody usually breaks out into a wall of text rant about things they prefer about DFO, which usually includes a lot of hyperbole and personal preference, so it's impossible to respond to. If you look at DFUW objectively, it's really not that bad. They're adding things slowly but surely. I'm not sure what else you can reasonably expect. The only thing that I think you can objectively blame AV for is being TERRIBLE with timelines/communication. But that isn't a substantive complain. 

 

And I don't necessarily expect AV to do anything. I'm not banking on them doing anything. I would still play DFUW over almost any other MMO. In fact the main reason I'm not playing DFUW is because of the terrible community. You're just ruining the game for the people who like it. And why? Because it's different from DFO? 

 

 

I don't think you are looking at DF:UW objectively either.  You claim that those that dislike DF:UW are unwarranted and should just move on or that they are damaging the game somehow.  I say that those that like DF:UW don't know any better, and in thier own way are damaging the game by leading new players on and allowing the devs to think thier game is good as it is.  You keep stating that DF:UW is the best pvp full loot of its kind....its the only pvp full loot of its kind so comparing a game to nothing and then calling it the best is like winning a contest with no competitors.  I would rather play nothing then a shitty game, but that is my opinion.  Why exactly should I be chastized for speaking my opinion but you are allowed to come here and tell everyone that the game is the best thing since sliced bread?  I've played DF:UW and I've played DFO, SB, UO, DAoC and the other pvp loot conquest games that have been out over the years and DF:UW is the worst of them.  You keep talking about the people that are complaining about DF:UW and not playing it yet you just admitted that you no longer play DF:UW and yet you come here to defend it.

DF:UW full loot is a underwhelming feature. The loot is crap for several reasons.

- gathering is a dull activity mostly done afk

- crafting is a shallow activity produces generic stuff.

- everyone can craft everything

All that together leads to loot being crap. 

AV will probably remove full loot in a attempt to fix the game, declare that step as "natural evolution". and guess what they could be right with it. Cause loot in this shape doesn't cause anyone to go out and PvP.

 

In general i don't thing DF:UW offers anything to justify it as a MMORPG. There isnt anything much more happening server side beside a persistant big  but lifeless world.

There are several multiplayer games i play for my PvP fix. Take Mount and Blade, it offers perfect mechanics for medievel PvP, more exciting combat, you jump instantly to action with no grind and a loot system like DF:UW doesnt let me miss it.

Now if DF:UW offered a reason to justify why i should take part on their server i would by they don't.

 - gathering materials is underwhelming. crafting material is underwhelimg. class system is a turn down, area control mechanics almost no existing, PvE is underwhelming .  

Why i should leave my exciting PvP multiplayer combat games for such mediocre and dull activities on DF:UW server ?

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-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!

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