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  jonesing22

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12/06/13 8:00:30 PM#21
Originally posted by Sephros
Wait so is this game like minecraft with random world generatation. Gathering items to crat and create. Ala minecraft survival mode. Or is this some lame creative mode game where everything gets pulled out of tabs in your inventory because you want a house there. Im confused.

Yeah, I am curious about this too. For me, minecraft creative mode is boring.

  xanthmetis

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12/06/13 8:16:10 PM#22
Originally posted by Vidir
Originally posted by Reklaw
Originally posted by Vidir

Is eqnl a open World pvp?

 

Why would anyone want a forced playstyle in a sandbox game?

Lots of gankers wants that. All pvp lovers in the world.

The information has not been released on pvp.  If you listen to this past video it said we will help determine some of the aspects of pvp eqn-l alpha.  However, in a previous video they did say the are not going to alienate any part of the market that would not be good for business.  Thus, its sounds like they are going to have a system that allows for nonforced but available or servers that determine the pvp rule set.  They also alluded to something we have not seen in reference to player housing/lots and having coops and possibly things going sour thus causing possible pvp... that statement was very vague as all their comments have been.

 

In response, to why would anyone want forced playstyle referring to pvp in a sandbox.  There are several sandboxes with ow pvp that are successful with large player bases... so in response to your statements hundred of thousands to millions of ppl lol just not you and many others :)... 

 

I for one do not feel its a viseral world without the option.  I am not a ganker but any means, but I love the extra rush of having that around the possiblity.  I always feel like a game world is lacking if they do not have it.  Also, I love having those option to start rivialries and war between groups so much fun!  If there was no pvp and owpvp they would be turning off part of the market and would not be a smart business practice.

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  Sephros

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12/06/13 8:28:29 PM#23
Very boring.

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  Kyleran

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12/06/13 8:32:48 PM#24

What is EQN:L?  A clever way to sell you a single game twice.

 

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  Amjoco

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12/06/13 8:34:15 PM#25

I don't like knocking games, but his first few seconds he described any and every mmorpg that has ever been created. He was pumping me up to play what I have played over and over again. And no, I don't want to quick build a house, I want it to be a challenge to find the materials, time intesive to make it.  Quit making us games that we race to level cap within the first week or two. I want immersion and I'm getting tired of the genre changing into my sons XBox Skylanders game. 

To be honest, I will probably buy the game and play it, I like trying new things, but I don't want to be bored within a week of playing. The only thing I see in the near future that remotely interest me is Gloria Victis because it looks like what an RPG should be (IMHO).

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  Rinna

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12/06/13 8:40:55 PM#26

I find Dave Georgeson to be as likeable as John Smedley is unlikeable.

I swore I'd never give SOE another dime yet here I sit tranfixed... buying a trailblazer pack.

I hope EQNext has a subscription option.  I still disagree with Smedley's FTP is the future BS.  

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  User Deleted
12/07/13 5:27:27 AM#27
Originally posted by Kyleran

What is EQN:L?  A clever way to sell you a single game twice.

 

Wait they said It will be F2P   I don't get you're point

  tom_gore

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12/07/13 6:03:29 AM#28

Ok I can't resist anymore. This game is going to be fucking awesome. Crafting, exploring, building. All the stuff I love in MMOs.

Sold.

  tom_gore

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12/07/13 6:09:08 AM#29
Originally posted by jonesing22
Originally posted by Sephros
Wait so is this game like minecraft with random world generatation. Gathering items to crat and create. Ala minecraft survival mode. Or is this some lame creative mode game where everything gets pulled out of tabs in your inventory because you want a house there. Im confused.

Yeah, I am curious about this too. For me, minecraft creative mode is boring.

 

It's going to be like Survival mode. You'll have to gather the mats, the recipes, etc. You might have to fight monsters to get the fancier stuff, too.

  Nadia

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12/07/13 6:14:57 AM#30
Originally posted by Rinna

I find Dave Georgeson to be as likeable as John Smedley is unlikeable.

I hope EQNext has a subscription option.  

I still disagree with Smedley's FTP is the future BS.  

I agree with all 3 points  -- I removed one line because I've always liked SOE games

  Mr.Kujo

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12/07/13 7:01:06 AM#31

No matter what type of system they will implement, you don't have to be a developer or genius to know, that they won't port your dick towers, dream castles and all the other random, personal preference stuff into the other game. If anything, they will pick few of the more professional stuff, that appeals to masses. Something that can be used in gameplay in any way. Things that are created by talented players, selected few of the best works. No reason to trash their new game with random stuff, that few people may find interesting.

 

Don't you think it would be stupid to make two games, and put a little bit of everything into both? What is the point of that... Landmark should be about building, and all activities that are related, and EQN should be about all the player interaction and character progression. What is the point in sticking PvP in both games, other than splitting resources to make worse building experience?

 

Building is boring? For other people mindless slashing up monsters with keyboard is boring. Some people find creating something beautiful that will persist in virtual world more interesting, if you are not one of those people you shouldn't be in a sandbox game forum.

  Reklaw

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12/07/13 8:30:18 AM#32

I want to know at 4:29 you see this Mech like thing, can you make it work. For example in Planet Explorers you can actually make all sorts of vehicles and they actually work ingame, that is if you put everything well and working together..hehe.

Curious how far EQL goes.......

 

  Iczer

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I want a world in a sandbox ... not a theme park!

12/07/13 8:43:23 AM#33
Originally posted by Ice-Queen
I always loved building housing in Ultima Online, EQN-L may end up being pretty good, will have to see in alpha :)

Ding ding ding ... that is exactly the feeling I get when looking at this video. i dont even care if the two games are connected or not connected or whatever. I just want something new and fresh that is not the same old rehash with a different skin.

I am playing DayZ epoch right now quite a lot and the most interesting aspect of that to me is you can build your own fort, house, safe place, ect... Its rather detailed and takes some time and effort so I am compelled to get back in and back to work on my project. I want that same feeling of purpose in an MMO.

  keglo

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12/07/13 9:37:49 AM#34
Originally posted by Amjoco

To be honest, I will probably buy the game and play it, I like trying new things, but I don't want to be bored within a week of playing. The only thing I see in the near future that remotely interest me is Gloria Victis because it looks like what an RPG should be (IMHO).

Ok, at least two people have mentioned buying this game. I was under the impression that this and EQN where going to be free games. Is this not the case? As for my opinion of the game, it looks pretty darn sweet to me. I even like the graphics that most folks seem to hate. 

 

 

  Nitth

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12/07/13 9:49:25 AM#35


Originally posted by keglo

Originally posted by Amjoco To be honest, I will probably buy the game and play it, I like trying new things, but I don't want to be bored within a week of playing. The only thing I see in the near future that remotely interest me is Gloria Victis because it looks like what an RPG should be (IMHO).
Ok, at least two people have mentioned buying this game. I was under the impression that this and EQN where going to be free games. Is this not the case? As for my opinion of the game, it looks pretty darn sweet to me. I even like the graphics that most folks seem to hate. 
 

Founders packs for early access is what people are talking about, If you wait till the official release date is will be f2p.


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  superconducting

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12/07/13 11:09:22 AM#36

This game is actually MORE appealing to me than EQN is.

  Vivasvan

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12/07/13 4:54:26 PM#37
This game is a hyped up Disney overlay minecraft wrapped up using the legendary EQ name .

They already said it was F2P then a month ago you can purchase some pre founder pack for $99

It's total pile of shit
  rogue187

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12/07/13 5:33:05 PM#38
Originally posted by Vivasvan
This game is a hyped up Disney overlay minecraft wrapped up using the legendary EQ name .

They already said it was F2P then a month ago you can purchase some pre founder pack for $99

It's total pile of shit

You mad bro? it's for early forum/game access and perks...and no other game gives you these features at this quality level

  Valkyrie

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12/07/13 8:02:03 PM#39

To answer a few questions raised here from what we know so far:

EQN:L will be more like minecraft survival mode but supposedly you can move your plot if you don't like your neighbours anymore (or what they build). Not clear if mobs can destroy or damage what you build, probably not, but mobs will be ressource nodes. Unclear if there is PvP too or sieging, but it is definitely not going to be enforced as playstyle.

 

There will be leveling in EQN:L for your crafting skills it seems but definitely tiers of material, tiers of tools (what tier of material can you use/harvest/gain), subtiers of tool quality (how fast can you gain/harvest).

 

The worldbuilding/modelling tools of EQN:L are show in the video, but the speed only works if you have the materials for this. So basically you work to get materials, then you can use these with the worldbuilding tools shown. Getting the material can take a long time. You can save a structure/building as template, offer it for sale and then rebuild it quickly by "filling" it with the necessary materials. But again: the time consuming part is getting the materials first.

 

Edit: They sell currently special packs that will allow early access to alpha or closed beta with items/outfits and other perks, but EQN:L will be F2P once release is there. The difference between EQN:L and EQN is that the later will have events and quests and such, is so to say a curated world where player can do only very limited things to the terrain or buildings or such if at all, so it is more a common MMO where you follow the story and impact it and perform tasks etc.
 

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  kostanza

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12/07/13 8:23:19 PM#40

Last I heard, EQNL was nothing more than a building platform.  It isn't a "game" so much as "here's some space...do stuff to it".  The reason people are hyped for it is because SoE claimed that if you make really really cool crap in EQNL it might become part of EQN. 

Mostly, it looks like just something to hold your attention while they try to figure out how to make EQN...after all, it wasn't long ago that SoE ALLEGEDLY scrapped EVERYTHING and started over...about 2 months before the screenshots began and they started asking through polls how respondents wanted them to make their game, I think.

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