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  Prokaryotik

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12/01/13 8:00:52 PM#41

2 reasons:

1) Console companies ie: Sony and Microsoft pay game studios extra piles of cash to have exclusive rights to a game title either for a period of time or forever. Since PC has no all-encompassing company like that we rarely see PC exclusive games anymore.

2) The specs for consoles are constant while PCs are ever changing. When you're designing a game and working within the constraints of the system its easier to know your boundaries on a console than it is on a PC. Thus PC games must go through rigorous testing and whatnot in order to optimize it on multiple platforms. There are just so many variables in PC gaming hardware and software that can cause problems and inevitably ends up costing companies money spending time and effort debugging all those combinations.

  aRtFuLThinG

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12/01/13 8:06:59 PM#42
Originally posted by catlana
Originally posted by goldtoof
No its not

Pc is the largest selling platform.

All consoles combined outsell pc, but no individual console does.

Quoting figures for individual games means nothing. The pc market, and pc gamers is more varied in its taste. Consoles tend to be boom or bust with their games, they're either massive hits like gta, cod and gow or they do nothing.

GTA V has out sold every other video game this year. GTA V may eventually be ported to PC. However, Rockstar did not port Red Dead to pc. Rockstar has obviously concluded that releasing on PC costs them money.

You may be right on total sales but for an individual game basis consoles have much higher numbers.

That speaks more for the strength of GTA series, NOT the strength of console. GTA could've released V on iphone/android and it would have been sold in vast numbers just the same. There is virtually no way to tank it unless they did something really stupid.

 

However, if devs try releasing indie or smaller/unheard of games on console, I don't even think the dev will even make 10k in sales. On steam on PC on the other hand, people gobble it up like no tomorrow as long as they sell it cheap.

 

And corrrection on the all consoles combined outsell pc part, they don't and it is not even close. Just goggle some stats you will find it.

  rojoArcueid

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"It is double pleasure to deceive the deceiver". - Niccolo Machiavelli

12/01/13 8:08:17 PM#43
i'll pass AC:IV on PC. I'll sacrifice the superior graphics and get it on PS4 (when i get one) because Assassins Creed multiplayer always suck on PC. Either nobody plays or their netcode is garbage because it never finds people on PC. I never had that problem on consoles with any AC online.

  iamrta

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12/01/13 8:20:45 PM#44
It is ironic considering all of the "live" gameplay they ever show at E3 are done on PC's hiding behind little cardboard displays. 
  Drakynn

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12/01/13 8:29:34 PM#45
Originally posted by Havekk

 


Originally posted by asmkm22 The console market is much larger than the PC market.  Look at just the xbox live service, which hit something like 46 million users earlier this year.  That's easily 3 or 4 times the potential audience of PC gamers just with one console.  If you look at PC-exclusive games that have sold really well, most top out at around 10-12 million.  The Sims 2 hit 20 million or so, and it was pretty much aimed at the fairly huge casual-female market that later transitioned over to Farmville and other Facebook games.  The closest example of a non-casual PC game would be Diablo 3, which sold 12 million. Compare those numbers to, say GTA V, which has sold around 30 million in less than a month, or any of the various Wii exclusives which usually sold 20-30 million -- on one platform -- and it's not difficult to see why publishers are more interested in consoles.  They're cheaper to develop for and have a larger audience that includes teens just getting into games (more young teens can afford a console than a gaming computer). The problem for PC gamers is that the control and UI setup has to be completely reworked in most cases, which means most PC games end up with fairly crappy UI's or stripped down gameplay because they were designed for consoles first.  For that to change, there needs to be a larger potential audience for PC games, and that will never happen unless hardware and software prices really drop below the $500 range for a high-end gaming machine.  

 

Agreed. In addition, although folks around here don't want to see or admit to the fact that the PC in general is dying. Look at the sales... Record lows across the board. I prefer PC gaming myself, but I don't deny the truth. We're a dying breed.

 

While you are right about the record lows in the last year it's yet to be seen whether that is a temporary thing due to the mass adoption of mobile platforms like smart phones and tablets or a permanent trend.I have a tablet but also plan on having a good PC because I like both platforms for different purposes and games.Your cries of doom are as of yet unproven and unsubstantiated.

  Thomas2006

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12/01/13 8:48:04 PM#46

The reason is simple. Why would anyone buy a subpar console copy of a game when they can almost always get a better expierence and graphics on the pc copy.

Really would you rather play GTA V on the PC or a console? Would you rather play AC4 on the PC with semi better graphics or on a console with less graphic quality?

Want to know why we didnt get Dust 514 for the PC. Because Sony dumpped a massive bucket of money to make it a PS exclusive. Not to mention compared to other shooter games on the market it is very VERY subpar.

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  heirloom

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Joined: 12/04/13
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12/04/13 8:52:58 PM#47

They're almost turning console into PC. That way they're monopolized or something...hmm...that sounds familiar...oh never mind that.

But yeah, it's sad that there are console exclusives but the least I could do is not support it by not buying le console just for that exclusive. I try to satisfy myself just watching a full playthrough of it. It may not be enough but at least I didn't spend much, since I'm mostly after the story of the game anyway. But if it's a different type of game...well...that really sucks.

  User Deleted
12/04/13 9:22:44 PM#48

Everyone who buys a gaming console has the full intention to look for, buy, and play games on it. Not everyone who own a PC is using it as a gaming machine.

So from a developer's perspective, which demographic would you make your games for? The one where you know that 100% of the people who own that platform are looking to buy games on a regular basis, or the platform where you really don't know how many people are even looking for your game on their platform let alone have a powerful enough rig to run it.

Consoles are easier to make games for than a pc because you are only dealing with a single hardware configuration. A console sits in the living room attached to the tv by default (those of you who have pc's hooked up to your living room tv for entertainment are in the extreme minority right now).

Easy to develop for, easy access for users, a reliable demographic with a high attach rate. PC gaming is an expensive hobby if you truly want to have the best graphics year in and year out.

You can play hypotheticals all day long. Spouting off, "well if this game came out on pc it would have far superior graphics and the mod community would be outstanding." But the reality is that console exclusive aint going anywhere and if you want to hold out for a pc port, go for it but thats not really gaming imho.

If you are really into gaming, then the platform does not matter. Any gamer worth their weight in hot pockets will go where the games they want are available. IF thats pc, then there it is. IF its a console exclusive and they deem it a must have title, then you pony up the cash and get your game on.

I play games on my pc and it is easier to count how many consoles and handhelds i have not owned, than it is try try and calculate all of the gaming devices I have attained in my 35+ years of gaming. And I dont regret any of it. I would have missed out on some of the best gaming experiences ever had I taken the stance of pc superiority > all.

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