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News & Features Discussion  » World of Warcraft: Greg "Ghostcrawler" Street to Leave Blizzard

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  DocBrody

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11/28/13 4:08:32 AM#41
is he the person who invented dailies and reputation in MMOs?
  User Deleted
11/28/13 4:31:55 AM#42

Three bad expansions and unrepairable damage to the game later and now he wants to leave. He should have been fired years ago. But you have to give it to him if he didn't understand something he simply removed it or gave it to everyone. 

Thanks for the memories you @#$%@#$%@#$%.

  Malvious

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11/28/13 4:48:52 AM#43

AW MY GAWD WOW IS GONNE DIE NAU!!!!

Fine, we'll compromise. I'll get my way & you'll find a way to be okay with that.

  Muke

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11/28/13 4:50:36 AM#44
Originally posted by itchmon

2- oh lord please don't let itbe with ccp.

If he did let him work on the DUST game, that is almost dead and buried anyway.

My take would be a Disney Star Wars franchise game, as they are keen to release a batch of games when the newest episode is released.

"going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"

  FrodoFragins

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11/28/13 4:53:55 AM#45

I thought the game pretty much went downhill when the good devs left WOW and he took over?

 

I don't really follow the game that closely as I'm not an end game raider and haven't been since early TBC.

  AndrewGoat

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11/28/13 5:01:59 AM#46
Good riddance.
  deniter

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11/28/13 9:22:10 AM#47
Originally posted by Sleepyfish

Three bad expansions and unrepairable damage to the game later and now he wants to leave. He should have been fired years ago. But you have to give it to him if he didn't understand something he simply removed it or gave it to everyone. 

Thanks for the memories you @#$%@#$%@#$%.

Exactly this!

  Yaevindusk

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Logic, reason and fact do not supersede human nature. Ignorance reigns without justice.

11/28/13 10:33:55 AM#48

Originally posted by nationalcity
lol, who will everyone blame now for all the Wow problems 8P

Hopefully people will come to realize that it is folly to do so with out intimate knowledge and an unbias nature.  In most cases lack of interest is self served, though to come to the acceptance that once wasted 9+ years on a game that they then quit is too much to bare for some.  People need scape goats, and who better than to blame the most vocal and those with a title next to their name?  People quit out of loss or personal interest and use little things as reasons so that they are able to fool themselves otherwise.  It's hard to keep count of people who quit because of one simple little change; they just look for reasons and then join in on the mob mentality to make it so that it's Blizzard's fault they quit and not their own (one reason I laugh at is the talent changes... as if looking up a website for the efficient pick for 1 minute and then never having to worry about it again or even press the talent interface for as long as they play WoW.  The new talent system makes me access it on an hourly basis depending what class I want, if I'm solo, If I'm in dungeon, PvP, certain bosses, or just different rotations and tactics).  Though we just need to find that one thing we don't agree with and then stubbornly stick with it without trying things out for ourselves or letting ourselves take a balanced viewpoint once again.  Human nature and all that.

Originally posted by tawess

Greg Street was the lead system designer of WoW. He became the "face of evil" by being a very active and communicative person on the WoW forums.

 

Some people have a weird notion that WoW would have done better if it was not for GC, i personally think those people are confused... But that is my opinion. I personally have enjoyed how his team have worked to streamline a lot of very clunky features in to one of the smoothest games on the market. Who ever take up the reins will have some big shoes to fill... Especially on the whole "forum activity" part.

 

Will have to keep an eye on where he end up.

 

 

 

The main problem is that he responded to so many people through various outlets (as you said).  Had he just remained silent the whole time there would be less presumptions and less people upset that the WoW team didn't meet their demands.  Most of the time he gave sound reasons as to things and even responded well enough in some capacity.  Though with that people expect more and more and the insatiable are never... satiated.  There are even a few comments here stating that they don't like how he handled some things.  Poor reasons to be happy at seeing someone go.  Though there was also a wise saying stating that "it's better to have the evil you know, than the evil you don't" when referring to some individuals.

 

Damned if you do, damned if you don't when there is high expectations or a long term playerbase.  Now we just need to find reasons to hate the one who takes his place so that we can feel good about ourselves.  Though I could imagine this being good news if one did not like any of the last three expansions at all (even though numbers peaked during Wrath).  Some horrible systems put into place during the beginning of Cataclysm, to be sure.  Yet he had experience and years of mistakes to learn from.  Whoever they replace them with will have to have errors of their own to learn from now.

 

 

Though as a whole it seems like a good opportunity has arrived for him.  That presents something new for both him and the game that many love or love to hate.  Perhaps some fresh air is needed or perhaps this is the worse thing that could possibly happen at this junction.  Time will be the judge of that.  Perhaps even the bias nature people had towards him will make them positively bias towards the game and new decisions made just because it isn't the the same man baring the title as before.  Though at the end of the day it's the same developers for the game.  If what they've told me when I talked to some of them at various events, each member has a say in development and teamwork is crucial.  Therefore I wonder if this is the placebo that some of the masses need to once again "enjoy" their time.  Though I'd imagine those who blamed him will just say something along the lines as "x years too late" and use that as their new excuse to justify to themselves the time spent and why they quit.  After all, it's hard to quit something addictive if one does not find something to blame or a goal to achieve.

 

When faced with strife or discontent, the true nature of a man is brought forth. It is then when we see the character of the individual. It is then we are able to tell if he is mature enough to grin and bare it, or subject his fellow man to his complaints and woes.

  skeaser

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Don't die mad, just die.

11/28/13 10:41:34 AM#49
It'd be cool if when you guys post news you told us who the dude is. I had to Google to find out he was the lead system designer.


A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything.
-Friedrich Nietzsche

  furbans

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11/28/13 12:48:14 PM#50
Originally posted by tawess

Greg Street was the lead system designer of WoW. He became the "face of evil" by being a very active and communicative person on the WoW forums.

 

Some people have a weird notion that WoW would have done better if it was not for GC, i personally think those people are confused... But that is my opinion. I personally have enjoyed how his team have worked to streamline a lot of very clunky features in to one of the smoothest games on the market. Who ever take up the reins will have some big shoes to fill... Especially on the whole "forum activity" part.

 

Will have to keep an eye on where he end up.

 

 

I stopped playing WoW since WotLK with ICC but I recall reading that the dev's no longer communicate via forums and everything was done by twitter?

I disliked GC ever since he was adament that prot warriors were fine, regardless that all other tank classes were numerically proven to be better by a substantial amount with the exception of the DK.

  Panzerbase

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11/28/13 12:55:57 PM#51
Probably too little too late, but it's good to see Blizzard finally taking out the trash. Hopefully his next job is walking to the mailbox to collect his unemployment check. 
  Thupli

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11/28/13 12:58:28 PM#52
thanks for a good time in tbc and wrath Ghostcrawler, i loved it then. Best of luck on your next endevour!
  bcbully

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11/28/13 1:00:46 PM#53
Originally posted by deniter
Originally posted by Sleepyfish

Three bad expansions and unrepairable damage to the game later and now he wants to leave. He should have been fired years ago. But you have to give it to him if he didn't understand something he simply removed it or gave it to everyone. 

Thanks for the memories you @#$%@#$%@#$%.

Exactly this!

Took away Affliction Locks drain mana... I played a lot of 2v2. After the removal of this iconic skill in Cata, my 2v2 two matches went from 5 minutes to 25 mins each.  I had never complained about a nerf before,  and didn't complain about this removal either. I just left shortly after. 

  Volgore

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11/28/13 3:37:45 PM#54
He may have finally noticed that the game is going nowhere and looked out for greener pastures.

  slickbizzle

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11/28/13 3:44:11 PM#55
Originally posted by Hawkster
Originally posted by Iceman8235
WoW won't be the same without him.  I wish him luck in his future endeavors.

Yeah...it can only get better.  He is leaving about....6 years too late.

 

I have to agree with that.  

 

 

 

 

  lostincombatfindings

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Joined: 11/12/13
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11/28/13 3:45:24 PM#56
To leave Blizzard? Hasn't he left like 10 times already? I mean didn't he leave last month?
  twrule

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11/28/13 4:36:19 PM#57
Originally posted by Rusque

Wow, people liked ghostcrawler?

On this forum of all places people actually thought he was good for WoW and Blizzard?

My assumption is he got a nice offer from another company. Regardless of how/why he's leaving I'm happy. I hated his style of communication and I hated most of his design decisions. And I really hated how stubborn he was to react to community input, he would refuse, deny, and put down any claims of current class issues and then turn around a year later and say, "oops, guess we over-nerfed ___" Not to mention Cata and MoP sucked. For every positive thing they brought to the game, they brought two negatives.

Agreed - my main beef with the guy was primarily his condescending, overbearing attitude toward the community. It was easy to get the impression that, to him, the community was always just a collection of whiny children who should just pipe down and keep forking over their money complacently regardless of what changes were made to the game. Even though I never once posted on the official WoW forums, this attitude and the player culture it engendered was ultimately enough to get me to leave the game for good (more so than any design decision - though I was no fan of those either, largely because I could tell this attitude influenced them).

  Antiquated

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11/28/13 5:10:29 PM#58

You have to work for a Blizzard to get the six-figure salary. And have the kind of fans that might make you to spend it on bodyguards.

  TechnoMonkey

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11/28/13 8:32:27 PM#59

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!  OMFG THIS IS THE BEST NEWS EVER! 

seriously though, I AM having a party in honour of these amazing news.

November 28 will always be remembered as "get rid of an a**hole" day from now on!

  maplestone

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11/28/13 9:45:49 PM#60
A good flamewar tank in a complex and unforgiving job, my sympathies to whoever has to step into those shoes.
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