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  Psion33

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OP  11/23/13 3:22:27 PM#1

Ok. Say I'm thinking of buying the Explorer's pack. That's for Landmark right, which is altogether a different game then EQN?

 

Do I understand that correctly? During the SOE live feeds are they showing Landmark or EQN? Because the lion race isn't suppose to be in EQNL because as it states on the website, EQNL is a human-only world currently with the possibility of incorporating other races eventually.

 

So, I'm kinda confused. (Yes I've read quite a few topics already at their site and these forums.)

  Enrif

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11/23/13 4:07:13 PM#2

The recent live streams were about Landmark. 

the revealing back in august was mostly on NEXT.

  Psion33

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OP  11/23/13 4:08:39 PM#3
Originally posted by Enrif

The recent live streams were about Landmark. 

the revealing back in august was mostly on NEXT.

 

I kinda figured so, but the fact that the EQN and EQ:NL videos are shared on both pages makes one kinda confused lol.

  Hedeon

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11/23/13 4:14:15 PM#4
Originally posted by Psion33
Originally posted by Enrif

The recent live streams were about Landmark. 

the revealing back in august was mostly on NEXT.

 

I kinda figured so, but the fact that the EQN and EQ:NL videos are shared on both pages makes one kinda confused lol.

tbh the diffrence between the 2 aint that big, except EQN will need alot longer time in development - I think of it more like 2 diffrent set of server rulesets, where EQ: NL  is faster to develope, so we get those servers first.

but sure sold as 2 diffrent games

  Psion33

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OP  11/23/13 4:27:42 PM#5
Originally posted by Hedeon
Originally posted by Psion33
Originally posted by Enrif

The recent live streams were about Landmark. 

the revealing back in august was mostly on NEXT.

 

I kinda figured so, but the fact that the EQN and EQ:NL videos are shared on both pages makes one kinda confused lol.

tbh the diffrence between the 2 aint that big, except EQN will need alot longer time in development - I think of it more like 2 diffrent set of server rulesets, where EQ: NL  is faster to develope, so we get those servers first.

but sure sold as 2 diffrent games

 

Well, the fact remains. They are only allowing at start in landmark the human race. So the founders packs everyone is buying...they will be limited to skewed versions and customization options of humans only.

I don't think people are realizing/understanding the fact that they are getting nothing at all like NEXT.

  Aelious

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11/23/13 8:13:24 PM#6
To each there own but the human only "issue" is easily solved by a race change potion once the other races are in. I certainly hope that people putting down 20-100 dollars for a founders pack have seen the information that is out there. If so they know exactly what's going on between EQN and Landmark.
  Grahor

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11/24/13 2:21:41 AM#7
Originally posted by Psion33

I don't think people are realizing/understanding the fact that they are getting nothing at all like NEXT.

Well, never stopped anyone before. Certainly not going to stop anyone now. And if you'll try to explain things to them, well, you better not. :)

  muffins89

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11/24/13 4:21:03 AM#8
landmark is an alpha test for next. 

I think the prostitute mod corrupted your game files man. -elhefen

  gelraen

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11/24/13 6:17:06 AM#9
Originally posted by muffins89
landmark is an alpha test for next. 

In some ways that statement contains some truth, but it's not actually "true" in the sense that Next will have a completely different alpha which has nothing to do with Landmark.

I think it's more accurate to say that Landmark is the functional testing ground for user generated content, which then has a chance to make it into Next.   Even though you and I both know and understand that they're likely going to test out a lot of ideas in Landmark (gameplay wise) which might eventually make it into Next as well.

To the OP, you're right, it is a bit confusing, but mostly because they announced both games together and both contain at least one character set/race and probably both will share a lot of animations, textures, etc.  My understanding from reading all that I can, is that those packs only pertain to Landmark though, and will give no benefit to Next.

  Nadia

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11/24/13 11:52:36 AM#10
Originally posted by Psion33

Ok. Say I'm thinking of buying the Explorer's pack. That's for Landmark right, which is altogether a different game then EQN?

http://www.reddit.com/r/EQNext/comments/1qdzm1/founders_pack_discussion_thread/cdc7qep

Currently, none of the items are going to transfer into EverQuest Next once it launches. These items are of value specifically for a character or player in Landmark. EQN will have a very different focus.

  yaminsux

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11/26/13 6:27:39 PM#11

Sorry to hijack this thread, but I dont feel the need for a new thread for my question.

 

So, for a newbie like me (I did not played any EQ before), which one suits me better? As someone pointed out Next and Landmark differences are only at:

 

- gameplay pacing

- landmark are humans only for the time being

 

I prefer less time to be invested (relatively speaking), but at the same time wants full feature. Enlighten me on the matter.

  Nadia

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11/26/13 9:55:31 PM#12
Originally posted by yaminsux

 As someone pointed out Next and Landmark differences are only at:

- gameplay pacing

- landmark are humans only for the time being

Landmark has any theme -- scifi, horror, western, etc

EQN is restricted to the Norrath fantasy theme

 

you won't be seeing Scifi outfits like Tech Commander gear in EQN

  Sleepyfish

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11/26/13 11:44:43 PM#13
Originally posted by Hedeon
Originally posted by Psion33
Originally posted by Enrif

The recent live streams were about Landmark. 

the revealing back in august was mostly on NEXT.

 

I kinda figured so, but the fact that the EQN and EQ:NL videos are shared on both pages makes one kinda confused lol.

tbh the diffrence between the 2 aint that big, except EQN will need alot longer time in development - I think of it more like 2 diffrent set of server rulesets, where EQ: NL  is faster to develope, so we get those servers first.

but sure sold as 2 diffrent games

Which is kind of confusing to me since the hype on Landmark just shot up to almost 9 and all the games that were at 8 are now sitting at 7. I would hate to think the website was artificially hyping games, surely not :/ It is not like this is the only voxel game coming out now or that voxel is new by any account. Just blatant advertisement annoys me. 

  Grahor

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11/27/13 4:39:04 AM#14
Originally posted by yaminsux

Sorry to hijack this thread, but I dont feel the need for a new thread for my question.

 

So, for a newbie like me (I did not played any EQ before), which one suits me better? As someone pointed out Next and Landmark differences are only at:

 

- gameplay pacing

- landmark are humans only for the time being

 

I prefer less time to be invested (relatively speaking), but at the same time wants full feature. Enlighten me on the matter.

There is someone confused here, and it's not me.

 

Landmark is a building game in the same way as Minecraft. EQN is a mmorpg game with mobs, dungeons, npcs, quests, epic loot and leet raiders.

 

Landmark doesn't have actual mobs, quests or dungeons. It doesn't have lore. It doesn't have story. It doesn't send you on quests or to the dungeons to get a key. You don't fight actual mobs, you know (except for very simplified combats, which will likely not be in EQN at launch at all), you don't heal your camrades, you don't collect drops or sell them.

 

You do look for minerals and collect resources, that allow you to upgrade your pickaxe. Which allows you to collect better resources which allow you to make better pickaxe. And you build castles but without any other reason than to build them. That's pretty much the whole progression AND quest story in Landmark. That's it. That's all.

 

Everything else is possible, may be, theoretically, can be build by players when and if the systems for it will be introduced into Landmark with patches - because it will not be there at launch.

  SavageHorizon

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11/27/13 4:49:03 AM#15
Originally posted by Grahor
Originally posted by yaminsux

Sorry to hijack this thread, but I dont feel the need for a new thread for my question.

 

So, for a newbie like me (I did not played any EQ before), which one suits me better? As someone pointed out Next and Landmark differences are only at:

 

- gameplay pacing

- landmark are humans only for the time being

 

I prefer less time to be invested (relatively speaking), but at the same time wants full feature. Enlighten me on the matter.

There is someone confused here, and it's not me.

 

Landmark is a building game in the same way as Minecraft. EQN is a mmorpg game with mobs, dungeons, npcs, quests, epic loot and leet raiders.

 

Landmark doesn't have actual mobs, quests or dungeons. It doesn't have lore. It doesn't have story. It doesn't send you on quests or to the dungeons to get a key. You don't fight actual mobs, you know (except for very simplified combats, which will likely not be in EQN at launch at all), you don't heal your camrades, you don't collect drops or sell them.

 

You do look for minerals and collect resources, that allow you to upgrade your pickaxe. Which allows you to collect better resources which allow you to make better pickaxe. And you build castles but without any other reason than to build them. That's pretty much the whole progression AND quest story in Landmark. That's it. That's all.

 

Everything else is possible, may be, theoretically, can be build by players when and if the systems for it will be introduced into Landmark with patches - because it will not be there at launch.

Unlike Wurm Online that let's you do both in a single persistent world.

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  DMKano

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11/27/13 4:51:16 AM#16
Originally posted by muffins89
landmark is an alpha test for next. 

Not really.

Landmark is it's own product - yes it uses the same voxelfarm engine - but that's it. The fact that EQL and EQN will coexist when complete proves this, the fact that EQL alpha is what players will be getting into is another.

So EQL will have it's own alpha/beta/release clients.

EQN will have it's own alpha/beta/release as well.

EQN is not in alpha yet - so there's is no alpha for EQN yet.

If EQL was an alpha test for EQN, then EQN won't have an alpha phase... and that's simply false.

 

 

  Darwa

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11/27/13 5:19:12 AM#17

No, they won't transfer as confirmed last night on Twitter: https://twitter.com/EQNLandmark/status/405476759350411264

 

 

  Nitth

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11/30/13 12:06:03 PM#18


Originally posted by SavageHorizon

Originally posted by Grahor

Originally posted by yaminsux Sorry to hijack this thread, but I dont feel the need for a new thread for my question.   So, for a newbie like me (I did not played any EQ before), which one suits me better? As someone pointed out Next and Landmark differences are only at:   - gameplay pacing - landmark are humans only for the time being   I prefer less time to be invested (relatively speaking), but at the same time wants full feature. Enlighten me on the matter.
There is someone confused here, and it's not me.   Landmark is a building game in the same way as Minecraft. EQN is a mmorpg game with mobs, dungeons, npcs, quests, epic loot and leet raiders.   Landmark doesn't have actual mobs, quests or dungeons. It doesn't have lore. It doesn't have story. It doesn't send you on quests or to the dungeons to get a key. You don't fight actual mobs, you know (except for very simplified combats, which will likely not be in EQN at launch at all), you don't heal your camrades, you don't collect drops or sell them.   You do look for minerals and collect resources, that allow you to upgrade your pickaxe. Which allows you to collect better resources which allow you to make better pickaxe. And you build castles but without any other reason than to build them. That's pretty much the whole progression AND quest story in Landmark. That's it. That's all.   Everything else is possible, may be, theoretically, can be build by players when and if the systems for it will be introduced into Landmark with patches - because it will not be there at launch.
Unlike Wurm Online that let's you do both in a single persistent world.

By the sounds of things EQN will have the building portion of EQNL incorporated to some degree.

So effectively EQN is the best of both worlds.


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  collekt

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12/13/13 11:14:20 AM#19
So Landmark is just basically Minecraft with better graphics and stuff? I could never get into this type of game.. what do you do after you build your castle or whatever? Just sit around and look at it?
  apocoluster

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12/13/13 11:22:39 AM#20
Originally posted by collekt
So Landmark is just basically Minecraft with better graphics and stuff? I could never get into this type of game.. what do you do after you build your castle or whatever? Just sit around and look at it?

Tear it down and make an even bigger one. 

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