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11/24/13 6:38:25 PM#41
I expect these games to launch strong, shake their players down for as much as they can, and close down before the players know what hit 'em.

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11/24/13 6:58:20 PM#42

It depends on what you mean by "Last."

If you mean Last as in have 1 million+ subs for years and years like WoW then NO.

If you mean simply still in operation then yeah. Even the failed MMOs are still around. Vanguard servers are still UP even though it was declared a failure 7 years ago. Rift is still around, AION, TERA, SWTOR, Neverwinter, FFXIV are all still operational.

Whether you are having fun in these games is up to you. Speaking for myself I am having fun right now in my little niche games that I play. Game hoppers bring about their own misery because they are always focused on the next game rather then living in the now.


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11/24/13 7:11:08 PM#43
  As a MMO nomad im not expected to adhere to any game for any point in time longer than 3 months or so..  but games like EQN i plan on putting into my game rotation since its free to try..and ESO as well if/when it goes free to try. 

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11/24/13 7:14:46 PM#44
After being and currently in beta for WS/ESO. Those games are complete rubbish, don't know about EQN yet but my stinkeye is ready.

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11/24/13 7:26:20 PM#45
Originally posted by PerfArt
EQN absolutely. Their model is airtight. If the delivery matches, it could be unstoppable for some time. SOE is playing a very smart game right now.

Wildstar might be a success, but I doubt it will have real legs. Seems a bit too surface level to last very long, but time will tell.

ESO will most likely be a beautiful, fireworks-drenched extravaganza of failure. That or a resounding triumph. I truly can't call that one. Too many variables involving the IP and the real content... but if pressed, I would predict the former.

My pick for "longevity" is therefore EQN.

I agree with you on EQN, although the whole founder packs "fiasco" might actually hurt them, if only in the beginning.

I also agree with you on Wildstar, although I'm a tad more optimistic than you, because I it's "real legs" is it's humor, and it's good humor at that (I have laughed at at least one thing per dev video, so I think that shows how good it is)

I think ESO will be a fireworks-drenched extravaganza of resounding triumph.  Judging by gameplay videos, it looks almost identical to Skyrim with some differences, and let's face it, Skyrim was an awesome game.

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11/24/13 8:21:00 PM#46

I'm not expecting any MMO to last, nor do I think they should.  Games are only fun for a certain amount of time and then people go elsewhere.  I cannot imagine staying with a single game, no matter how fantastic it is, forever.  I think every game coming out is going to do fine for a while, then lose players, then go F2P and eventually fade away, leaving only the few fanatics that all games come up with.

Why should they be any different than the vast majority of games on the market?

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11/24/13 8:23:43 PM#47

Originally posted by asrlohz

Originally posted by delete5230 With the anticipated newer mmos around the corner, and as fun as they seem, are you really expecting Deep, Rich, Long lasting enjoyment.  An mmo as you perceive it ......I'm asking you to put aside features, and asking you if you expect to call one home for a long time.......Yes, my question is Longevety...Are you finally expecting it ? Examples : -Wildstar -Elder Scrolls Online -EverQuest Next,  -any other near future mmo.     My Opinion : I for some reason was expecting FF14 to be that game, I don't know why.  Maybe because it was Square Enix and they have a solid history. I went into the game with my Built-in-forgetter that it was a rush job to fix a broken release.....I seem to romance only to be disappointed over and over.
Yes, aside from the massive failure with their previous attempt to bring Final Fantasy to the MMO scene. And their over priced FF originals on the app store, Final Fantasy Heroes, the terrible port PC of Dark Souls and most of their other games were total flops or made by different developers.


Don't get me wrong, I think that Square Enix is great and I usually trust that their High Profile games are going to be good. But I haven't had a single gaming experience with them without some massive oversight since their early Final Fantasy years. Albeit, FF14 was probably a pretty good entry to the MMO scene but they have to tries to even get it remotely right. And from what I played in the beta, the first twenty minutes were courier quests supposed to be a tutorial that figuratively bored the crap out of me.


Still, I their games are usually a good bet, but I was still bummed out after having to purchase a 360 controller to be able to play one of my PC games.

Square was great, Square-Enix is not.

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11/24/13 8:41:21 PM#48

Of your list, EQN will last the longest if you see it as the others will all be F2P in a short time to continue after the money grab. EQ Landmark also has a chance to last even longer due to players being able to create just about anything...Shroud of the Avatar WILL last long if not just due to the fact that they have it planned out to release the base game in chunks over several years, top it off with also being able to create just about anything and the typical fantastic Ultima story/world.

And those are just western made games. If Ein and Black Desert turn out to be even HALF what it seems it is, we will finally have two decent sandbox games in fully fleshed out worlds.

But I do understand your bleak outlook on the MMO genre, being so trapped in the rutt its been in for so long and several top upcoming MMOs like Wildstar and TESO being the exact same thing. But don't fret, there are SOME developers that don't have their heads trapped in that small box.

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11/24/13 8:47:25 PM#49

Wildstar is the only one i am interested in and just hope i won't be totally disappointed.

EQN is not my cup of tea and from what i saw of TESO it will be the worst of the bunch, i just don't understand what Zenimax is doing with that one.


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11/24/13 8:55:51 PM#50

Lineage Eternal is the only one from NCSOft that has the chance to last as long as Lineage 1 that still makes 50-60-80+ million dollars per quarter for NCSoft since 1998. It all depends on the development direction taken by the dev team.


Wildstar won't even last for two years.


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11/24/13 8:59:08 PM#51

Personally I play games untill I get bored. So that's how long any game gets with me. It differs from game to game mind.

More often than not, if the game hasn't shutdown I return.


Seeing as the games some people claim that failed are still alive and kicking, I'm guessing these new bunch won't be any different. they will be around for a while.


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11/24/13 9:04:26 PM#52

Generally the longivety of MMOs  will shrink every year. Not because the games are getting worse but because the "casual" players, who provide the core customers mostly want to "beat" the game as fast as possible and move on. If the game provides a too big challenge they simply abandon it within days which is the worst option for the publishers so the games tend to get more "accessible" with each patch.

The only MMO that could break the vicious circle is Elder Scrolls Online because of all fantasy franchises it has the largest fanbase and active community in both the English and German spoken countries.

But I would not even bet on this one to be longer around than a couple of years....


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11/24/13 9:08:56 PM#53

Wildstar - they can do it. Why? because its an evolutionary improvement over time tested principles - with a fun space theme. I think thats a good combination.

Here is the thing about 'new ideas' - they often don't pan out - this because of the nature of computer science. Developers are limited in what they can do and what they can make fun..

Show me a game that doesn't have levels or even stats on the gear - thats not a gear grind and that features awesome AI? Yeah I show you a failure..

We have heard this story before. I am playing GW2. I kind of like GW2. But its three 'main' innovative features - no grear grind, Holy Trinity, and Dynamic Events just don't really work. With gear they give you a daily driven grind instead (this is worse then a raiding system). And with the lack of Holy Trinity - sure there is 'complexity' there but its hidden. And thus not accessible for most players. As a result all the team work is zerging and there is very little actual team play.. And Dynamic events in practice are just like quests you don't need to read to start..- that anyone can join. Public Quests would be a more reailstic name for it..

ESO - that's a bit of a wild card. It has a strong IP - and maybe it will work. I found Skyrim surprisingly boring and lifeless so I dunno. But I wouldn't bet on them..




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11/24/13 9:15:09 PM#54
Originally posted by thestorytell

Generally the longivety of MMOs  will shrink every year. Not because the games are getting worse but because the "casual" players, who provide the core customers mostly want to "beat" the game as fast as possible and move on. If the game provides a too big challenge they simply abandon it within days which is the worst option for the publishers so the games tend to get more "accessible" with each patch.

The only MMO that could break the vicious circle is Elder Scrolls Online because of all fantasy franchises it has the largest fanbase and active community in both the English and German spoken countries.

But I would not even bet on this one to be longer around than a couple of years....

You sure? It's always been the casual gamer that plays and takes his time in the game. The hardcore player seems to want to rush and "win/beat" the game.



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11/24/13 9:35:59 PM#55

I'll probably play Wildstar a bit, especially if it releases before the WOW Xpac.  However, once Warlords of Draenor is out, I think you are going to see Wildstar bleed a lot of subs since it's  pretty much the same game as WOW, just without Blizzard's proven ability to pump out major content every 3-4 months.


But the games I'm really looking forward to in the future are the sandbox open-world PVP games - Repopulation, Gloria Victis, Pathfinder, Trials of Ascension, even Camelot Unchained (the last isn't really a sandbox but at least it's got the PVP).   I figure at least one of them will be my home, though I might have to wait a couple of years for release :( 




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11/24/13 11:26:50 PM#56
Originally posted by immodium
Originally posted by thestorytell

Generally the longivety of MMOs  will shrink every year. Not because the games are getting worse but because the "casual" players, who provide the core customers mostly want to "beat" the game as fast as possible and move on. If the game provides a too big challenge they simply abandon it within days which is the worst option for the publishers so the games tend to get more "accessible" with each patch.

The only MMO that could break the vicious circle is Elder Scrolls Online because of all fantasy franchises it has the largest fanbase and active community in both the English and German spoken countries.

But I would not even bet on this one to be longer around than a couple of years....

You sure? It's always been the casual gamer that plays and takes his time in the game. The hardcore player seems to want to rush and "win/beat" the game.


With casual players I mean those who either don't have enough time or interest to actually invest in an MMO.

The dedicated players  (or hardcore if you want) who mostly guilded usually came straigth from the P&P fraction, they where roleplayers used to play RPGs in groups and ready to invest time in non-leveling activities too.

Those who get off on reaching max level in 6 days are neither hardcore not casual imo, they are their own breed.

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11/25/13 12:07:13 AM#57

I may surprise some folks with my vote of "No, Not expecting it, and it's OK."

No point getting mad or upset. I have accepted the money is with the shallower games churned out these days.

Will they last? For some, most certainly. For others not likely, but many of those players do not care about lasting. They will just jump to the next game. Some players have been happily playing SW:TOR since beta. Same with almost every new game still running. There will be players that find their home and are happy. It may be a relatively small group in each game, but they are there :)


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11/25/13 12:13:49 AM#58
Originally posted by Thane
gotta keep in mind, this forum was calling for the end of WoW like 4 or more years ago :)

So does that mean those people were right, since it has lost about half of its subs since it's peak?


I wasn't one of them (I don't play it, but wasn't calling for it).


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11/25/13 12:55:51 AM#59

Depends on what you mean by "last". Because technically SWTOR is "lasting" with 500k players, even though it is (by broad consensus) considered a massive failure relative to what it was "supposed" to be.


I think it would be better to ask whether or not these games will be let-downs relative to what is expected of them by the community. In which case I would say yes: all of these games will most likely be let-downs with the exception of Landmark.


There is potential for Landmark to go big because it is the first AAA title to allow MMO customization from the ground up - but I see Everquest Next going straight to the garbage bin unless they stop catering to people who don't have the brain capacity to put on their own pants in the morning without assistance.


Start treating the community like adults and the community of adults will start playing your game. The list of MMO's you mentioned are still stuck in the "everyone is a 5 year old child, so let's treat them like it" phase.


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11/25/13 1:02:18 AM#60
for what comes final fantasy hype or so called. in my opinion it was great on 7 and 8 on playstation at times but never placed any hope on mmo versions.
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