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  Ramonski7

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11/24/13 10:31:03 AM#21
I played this hard for about 4 months. But for me, a mmorpg cannot survive alone on PvP. It's all bout what you can do when you're not fighting for your realm/faction/server. Well that and the total lack of  feeling like you're progressively getting stronger. You can blame that on the level syncing feature.


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  Serelisk

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11/24/13 10:48:48 AM#22
Originally posted by neobahamut20

If you are not a Guardian, Warrior, Elementalist or Necromancer, your class only provides certain (rare) utility to a WvW team and most teams would rather you run away from a fight than to die and rally the enemy team. For example, mesmers can port, engineers and rangers can destroy cannons/seige on the other side of the wall and theifs are good to kill supply dolyaks and siege whores when you break into a keep. However, in fights, they are asked to stay away and not die.

Engineers would be in the list of powerful/useful classes in group encounters. Seconded to a lesser extent by the ranger.

I agree on Mesmers and Thieves, due to lack of AoE ability, but both the Engineer and Rangers are woefully underutilized classes which, in the right group comp, CAN make or break a fight in relatively even and smaller numbers(15-30).

I'm not commenting on zerg warfare because it's a waste of my time to try and find any semblance of balance or meta strategy in what I can only classify as a clusterfuck.

 

  Jean-Luc_Picard

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11/24/13 10:56:42 AM#23
Originally posted by goboygo

Heavily instance game world (no immersion)

Another one who confuses "instance" and "zone". There's no instance in GW2's world, everyone shares the same zones. World vs World is not instanced either.

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  Purutzil

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11/24/13 10:59:48 AM#24
Honestly doesn't spark any interest watching, and playing it sparks even less interest with its rather lackluster combat system holding it back.  I still stand by the game being highly over-rated. Adds nothing really great, though you can argue the more 'casual' focus isn't too bad, though its not something I want in any of my games I like to play.
  neobahamut20

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We can only show them the path, but they have to be the ones to take it.

11/24/13 11:01:38 AM#25
Originally posted by Serelisk
Originally posted by neobahamut20

If you are not a Guardian, Warrior, Elementalist or Necromancer, your class only provides certain (rare) utility to a WvW team and most teams would rather you run away from a fight than to die and rally the enemy team. For example, mesmers can port, engineers and rangers can destroy cannons/seige on the other side of the wall and theifs are good to kill supply dolyaks and siege whores when you break into a keep. However, in fights, they are asked to stay away and not die.

Engineers would be in the list of powerful/useful classes in group encounters. Seconded to a lesser extent by the ranger.

I agree on Mesmers and Thieves, due to lack of AoE ability, but both the Engineer and Rangers are woefully underutilized classes which, in the right group comp, CAN make or break a fight in relatively even and smaller numbers(15-30).

I'm not commenting on zerg warfare because it's a waste of my time to try and find any semblance of balance or meta strategy in what I can only classify as a clusterfuck.

 

Zergs are all that matter in WvW. Sad but true.  There is a lot of strategy into it though.

In smaller groups, I have only seen engies and rangers good when they stand on a ledge and dont get used as rally bait. In zergs the main tactic is to rush to the backline, mainly the rangers, because they will rally those who fall in the hammer train. The team that rallies first generally wins the fight, be it 60 vs 60, 30 vs 60, 20 vs 20. Its kind of like the main tactic because it is effective. Unless you're on Yak's Bend, in which case you would turn and run away, lure the enemy to a keep/tower, and try to kill them with 30 arrowcarts.

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  coretex666

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11/24/13 11:25:05 AM#26
"WoW killer"

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  neobahamut20

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We can only show them the path, but they have to be the ones to take it.

11/24/13 11:27:51 AM#27
Originally posted by coretex666
"WoW killer"

Still a better game than SW:ToR. At least, Anet didn't claim time and time over that they were going to be WoW's strongest competitor, unlike the TORtanic.

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  SavageHorizon

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11/24/13 11:49:02 AM#28
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
Originally posted by goboygo

Heavily instance game world (no immersion)

Another one who confuses "instance" and "zone". There's no instance in GW2's world, everyone shares the same zones. World vs World is not instanced either.

Pretty sure GW2 has instanced dungeons.

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11/24/13 11:59:57 AM#29
Originally posted by neobahamut20
Originally posted by coretex666
"WoW killer"

Still a better game than SW:ToR. At least, Anet didn't claim time and time over that they were going to be WoW's strongest competitor, unlike the TORtanic.

Actually they did state that their ambition was to beat WoW.

Not that it matters, the game works for some, its not a bad game, it just lacks some quality of life things that most MMO players want.

Also not releasing an expansion at the year mark for a B2P game was a bad idea.  The living story is a pile of crap.

  Heretique

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11/24/13 12:04:29 PM#30
After your first WvW fight you realize it's just a big zergfest unfortunately.

Originally posted by salsa41
are you have problem ?

  FrodoFragins

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11/24/13 1:15:47 PM#31
I played for a month.  It wasn't my thing, especially WvW
  sumdumguy1

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11/24/13 1:24:43 PM#32
Originally posted by AlBQuirky

I did play it when it released. Took all of about 6 weeks to get bored. I have zero interest in WvW zergfests where when a player dies, they respawn and jump back into the battle as if nothing ever happened. I'll pass, thank you.

 Same reasons for me, no reason to repost the same thing.

  darkhigh

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OP  11/24/13 1:42:12 PM#33
So what do you all play then? What holds your attention? What can you get lost in, pvp in, explore in, and all with meaning? I'm not trolling I understand how easily GW2 can burn out. I am simply asking as I too would like to know of a game that has more immersion and pvp is a battle for something of worth not just score board. Everyone here is right though I've spent the last 8 hours or so in WvW and nothings changing, no gear is being upgraded, no great 1v1 2v1 or any of that. ZvZ was fun at first but... meh now. Would like to know what to try next.
  User Deleted
11/24/13 1:59:44 PM#34


Originally posted by darkhigh
So what do you all play then? What holds your attention? What can you get lost in, pvp in, explore in, and all with meaning? I'm not trolling I understand how easily GW2 can burn out. I am simply asking as I too would like to know of a game that has more immersion and pvp is a battle for something of worth not just score board. Everyone here is right though I've spent the last 8 hours or so in WvW and nothings changing, no gear is being upgraded, no great 1v1 2v1 or any of that. ZvZ was fun at first but... meh now. Would like to know what to try next.

Maybe one or two of us are not interested in pvp. Its possible, y'know ;)

  Torvaldr

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11/24/13 2:03:47 PM#35
I've had some fun in WvW, but pvp isn't my thing anymore and not why I play GW2.

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  darkhigh

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OP  11/24/13 2:10:56 PM#36
Originally posted by Foomerang

 


Originally posted by darkhigh
So what do you all play then? What holds your attention? What can you get lost in, pvp in, explore in, and all with meaning? I'm not trolling I understand how easily GW2 can burn out. I am simply asking as I too would like to know of a game that has more immersion and pvp is a battle for something of worth not just score board. Everyone here is right though I've spent the last 8 hours or so in WvW and nothings changing, no gear is being upgraded, no great 1v1 2v1 or any of that. ZvZ was fun at first but... meh now. Would like to know what to try next.


Maybe one or two of us are not interested in pvp. Its possible, y'know ;)

 

I understand that. I personally enjoy a mix but PVP is more important to me. I have played Aion for the last 4+ years and I just can't do it anymore. It's made so many improvements and  the pvp  is awesome but now gunners are such a joke that it's ruined the game entirely. I am looking for a new PVP home, GW2 was my first stop and I don't think it is going to  work out between us. I will continue my journey,  if anyone has recommendations please feel free, I will drop in and say hi and try it out. I am game for anything.

  GODGANONDORF

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Leave others try you dont have the right to stop'em

11/24/13 2:17:24 PM#37

I played the first guild wars for years , and guild wars 2  since beta closed, till some months ago whne the "every 15" days patches begin to be stressful and annoying, why you ask? well im a achievemtn and titles skins collector and if u missed a patch ur collection, is forever incomplete, and dont tell me about more to do in gw 2 than collecting stuff because you know is not tru.

After you are 80 only 2 things to do collections or just pvp and wvw and sadly gets boring, since i missed many patches now and my collection will be forever incomplete i will not return ty

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  greenstoned

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11/24/13 2:19:56 PM#38

i had very high hopes for this game, threw in my money for a pre-order, and once in it took only a couple weeks to realise that its a dumbed down mmo and feels too simple and lacking dept... no progression, very little character customisation, and the poorest skill variety ive seen in a mmo got me bored very very fast.

 

WvW is a zerg fest, its even worse than it was in RvR in warhammer online, and its nothing new even thos some ppl were under the impression it was some kind of revolution. daoc and war did it before, and they did it better

 

in the end, if some ppl like it, its jsut fine, but personally i aint into watered down products like this one

  Amjoco

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11/24/13 2:23:20 PM#39
Originally posted by GODGANONDORF

I played the first guild wars for years , and guild wars 2  since beta closed, till some months ago whne the "every 15" days patches begin to be stressful and annoying, why you ask? well im a achievemtn and titles skins collector and if u missed a patch ur collection, is forever incomplete, and dont tell me about more to do in gw 2 than collecting stuff because you know is not tru.

After you are 80 only 2 things to do collections or just pvp and wvw and sadly gets boring, since i missed many patches now and my collection will be forever incomplete i will not return ty

Sorry, there is way more to do than that. You narrowed the fun of the game by choosing only to play for achievements. I'm not knocking you because that is your style, but you can't tell others that there is nothing else to do other than that if thats all you want to do. /shrug

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  Amjoco

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11/24/13 2:31:20 PM#40

For those saying that this game is a zerfest, I would like to know what game that involves hundreds of players on a battlefield that isn't. Heck, it would be that way in a real life situation, choose any civil war from any country.  

The term zergfest is being overused and/or misused when it comes to mmo's imho. Almost any negative comment about mmorpg PvP leads to this expression to degrade the title. Think of new ways to express your disappointment because the norm is to gather and attack.

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