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  jackocomp

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Joined: 9/07/06
Posts: 30

In the Begining We Lived Like The Animals and For Some nothing Has Changed

11/21/13 5:32:32 PM#61

Hmmm ok well from the OP I think what has happened is the following: (I say this because the Ice changes in EVE happened long enough ago now for this person to have left the game a 101 times. There were no further changes in the latest update so why now?)

OP gets ganked on his BOT mining accounts & has a cry but thinks he is still sweet.

Not long after it happens again.

Next day the twit works out that he is now a known BOT miner & no matter what happens he is always going to keep getting ganked as they now are using locator agents to find his BOTS.

Soon after changes come through that make his BOT mining near impossible without having to put a bit of effort into the game so he/she decides they will run to the EVE-O forums & have a cry. Only problems is the OP finds that no-one cares if he is going to leave the game & he then gets mega-trolled out of the EVE-O forums.

Now at a loss the OP runs to these forums hoping people will be more sympathetic to them, unfortunately that isn't gong to happen either, so now what?

If you don't want to play the game then don't, we however don't want to hear about how poor little you can't have things your way so your quitting. Kick along with it or learn to suffer a bit more quietly cause really no-one cares.....

 

 

 

  Psion33

Novice Member

Joined: 8/06/13
Posts: 257

11/21/13 5:38:45 PM#62
Originally posted by jackocomp

Hmmm ok well from the OP I think what has happened is the following: (I say this because the Ice changes in EVE happened long enough ago now for this person to have left the game a 101 times. There were no further changes in the latest update so why now?)

OP gets ganked on his BOT mining accounts & has a cry but thinks he is still sweet.

Not long after it happens again.

Next day the twit works out that he is now a known BOT miner & no matter what happens he is always going to keep getting ganked as they now are using locator agents to find his BOTS.

Soon after changes come through that make his BOT mining near impossible without having to put a bit of effort into the game so he/she decides they will run to the EVE-O forums & have a cry. Only problems is the OP finds that no-one cares if he is going to leave the game & he then gets mega-trolled out of the EVE-O forums.

Now at a loss the OP runs to these forums hoping people will be more sympathetic to them, unfortunately that isn't gong to happen either, so now what?

If you don't want to play the game then don't, we however don't want to hear about how poor little you can't have things your way so your quitting. Kick along with it or learn to suffer a bit more quietly cause really no-one cares.....

 

 

 

 

You're wrong here. If game devs never listened to carebears & control freaks, nerfs wouldn't happen.

I'm against botting (and it's sister: low-work-farming) in all forms (legal or illegal.) I see it akin to the low income people getting handouts in real life. If I can stop that in game or IRL in any way... I definitely would/will.

  Mors.Magne

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Joined: 3/02/07
Posts: 1432

11/22/13 10:44:37 AM#63
Originally posted by uplink4242

Except you can get other people to pay for your rolls royce. :P

Besides, eve is one of the few p2p games to have free expansions. I think Rubicon could be better, but it's definetly worth my time.

 

Yes, some people no doubt get others to pay the Rolls Royce price. However, to do this they must play Eve like it's a job.  Otherwise, CCP would not make any profit.

  Mors.Magne

Novice Member

Joined: 3/02/07
Posts: 1432

11/22/13 10:50:41 AM#64
Originally posted by Hazelle

WIS features:

Walking in a station.

Yeah that's so much better than time dilation, revamped bounty hunter system, crimewatch, new ships, etc. etc. etc. Things that actually add to the game of eve online.  Being able to go for a stroll in a station isn't going to be the rise or fall of a PC or player corp in the eve universe.  No ships are destroyed when you have you toon sit down.  No fortunes will be made when you opt to have your toon stand.

As far as price goes:

Rift :  14.99 a month or $65.94 for 6 months + pay to play expansion

WoW: 14.99 a month or 77.94 for 6 months + pay to play expansion

SWTOR: 14.99 a month or 77.94 for 6 months + pay to play expansion

Eve:  14.95 per month or 71.70 for 6 months + no additional cost for expansions

You can see that the subscription price scheme is in line with the other games listed above, infact, it's cheaper than a few and you don't directly pay for expansions as you do for the other games listed.

Of course you could just choose to pay in PLEX and get everything for free.

 

 

 

No. The list you mention are tweaks to gameplay already there. They are subject to the law of diminishing returns.

 

The other games you list are overpriced and are not representative of the MMORPG genre as it is becoming. For example, GW2 has no subscription but now gets better reviews than WoW. SWTOR has a reputation for awfulness.

  cheeseheads

Hard Core Member

Joined: 6/15/11
Posts: 59

11/22/13 10:54:47 AM#65
i left the game, oh wait it never played it.  im sure ice mining is fun though
  sadeyx

Novice Member

Joined: 11/22/06
Posts: 1570

11/27/13 7:41:20 AM#66

This is actually why Eve Online and CCP are so great.

 

They frequently make changes which cleans out the junk players :)

  killahh

Novice Member

Joined: 8/25/04
Posts: 455

As famous as the unknown soldier

11/27/13 7:49:37 AM#67

i had an account for 10 years, and an alt account for the last three.

EVE is a great game, but , in the end, it is  a game and all games get stale.

i,ll never go back, but for what its worth, EVE gave me some of the most fun ive ever had in a game.

Gonada Dahung,over 20 years of mmorpg's and counting....Please Lord, let someone make a game that had all the awesomeness of UO, EQ and EVE...

  Hazelle

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Joined: 1/20/11
Posts: 773

12/01/13 3:17:17 AM#68
Originally posted by Mors.Magne
Originally posted by Hazelle

WIS features:

Walking in a station.

Yeah that's so much better than time dilation, revamped bounty hunter system, crimewatch, new ships, etc. etc. etc. Things that actually add to the game of eve online.  Being able to go for a stroll in a station isn't going to be the rise or fall of a PC or player corp in the eve universe.  No ships are destroyed when you have you toon sit down.  No fortunes will be made when you opt to have your toon stand.

As far as price goes:

Rift :  14.99 a month or $65.94 for 6 months + pay to play expansion

WoW: 14.99 a month or 77.94 for 6 months + pay to play expansion

SWTOR: 14.99 a month or 77.94 for 6 months + pay to play expansion

Eve:  14.95 per month or 71.70 for 6 months + no additional cost for expansions

You can see that the subscription price scheme is in line with the other games listed above, infact, it's cheaper than a few and you don't directly pay for expansions as you do for the other games listed.

Of course you could just choose to pay in PLEX and get everything for free.

 

 

 

No. The list you mention are tweaks to gameplay already there. They are subject to the law of diminishing returns.

 

The other games you list are overpriced and are not representative of the MMORPG genre as it is becoming. For example, GW2 has no subscription but now gets better reviews than WoW. SWTOR has a reputation for awfulness.

You are going to have to explain what you mean by those features being subject to the laws of diminishing returns I'm not seeing the connection.

Those games I listed are the most popular for the subscription payment scheme which is what we were discussing.  GW2 doesn't offer subsription fees so why would I list it?  However, if you want to discuss the cheapest payment scheme it's CCP's PLEX scheme:  Don't want to pay a sub fee?  Don't want to pay for an expansion?  Buy a plex with your ingame success and play for free.  No sub fee and no expansion cost = Zero dollars only ISK which doesn't exist outside of the game.  PLEX beats all the other MMORPG payment schemes.

 

  Muke

Hard Core Member

Joined: 1/04/07
Posts: 1637

12/01/13 3:39:25 AM#69
Originally posted by Mors.Magne
Originally posted by uplink4242

Except you can get other people to pay for your rolls royce. :P

Besides, eve is one of the few p2p games to have free expansions. I think Rubicon could be better, but it's definetly worth my time.

 

Yes, some people no doubt get others to pay the Rolls Royce price. However, to do this they must play Eve like it's a job.  Otherwise, CCP would not make any profit.

Strange, I haven't done PVE/mining in some 6y, don't leech on alliance members working for me, dont use bots, my reaction towers and blueprints are not used atm and wooosh, wtf, 4.1b in 90 minutes....that's 8 months of EVE subscription for 1 character.

Damn what a harsh job this is.

 

**there are more ways to earn ISK ingame, not all efforts need grinding.

 

 

"going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"

  Mors.Magne

Novice Member

Joined: 3/02/07
Posts: 1432

12/01/13 3:24:51 PM#70
Originally posted by Hazelle
Originally posted by Mors.Magne
Originally posted by Hazelle

WIS features:

Walking in a station.

Yeah that's so much better than time dilation, revamped bounty hunter system, crimewatch, new ships, etc. etc. etc. Things that actually add to the game of eve online.  Being able to go for a stroll in a station isn't going to be the rise or fall of a PC or player corp in the eve universe.  No ships are destroyed when you have you toon sit down.  No fortunes will be made when you opt to have your toon stand.

As far as price goes:

Rift :  14.99 a month or $65.94 for 6 months + pay to play expansion

WoW: 14.99 a month or 77.94 for 6 months + pay to play expansion

SWTOR: 14.99 a month or 77.94 for 6 months + pay to play expansion

Eve:  14.95 per month or 71.70 for 6 months + no additional cost for expansions

You can see that the subscription price scheme is in line with the other games listed above, infact, it's cheaper than a few and you don't directly pay for expansions as you do for the other games listed.

Of course you could just choose to pay in PLEX and get everything for free.

 

 

 

No. The list you mention are tweaks to gameplay already there. They are subject to the law of diminishing returns.

 

The other games you list are overpriced and are not representative of the MMORPG genre as it is becoming. For example, GW2 has no subscription but now gets better reviews than WoW. SWTOR has a reputation for awfulness.

You are going to have to explain what you mean by those features being subject to the laws of diminishing returns I'm not seeing the connection.

Those games I listed are the most popular for the subscription payment scheme which is what we were discussing.  GW2 doesn't offer subsription fees so why would I list it?  However, if you want to discuss the cheapest payment scheme it's CCP's PLEX scheme:  Don't want to pay a sub fee?  Don't want to pay for an expansion?  Buy a plex with your ingame success and play for free.  No sub fee and no expansion cost = Zero dollars only ISK which doesn't exist outside of the game.  PLEX beats all the other MMORPG payment schemes.

 

 

One possible explanation as to why you're not aware of the "law of diminishing returns" is your relatively young age (or the relatively short length of time you've been playing MMORPGs). You simply haven't got to that stage in your gaming life yet.

 

Therefore, for you, the subscription probably is still worth it.

  Mors.Magne

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Joined: 3/02/07
Posts: 1432

12/01/13 3:30:32 PM#71
Originally posted by Muke
Originally posted by Mors.Magne
Originally posted by uplink4242

Except you can get other people to pay for your rolls royce. :P

Besides, eve is one of the few p2p games to have free expansions. I think Rubicon could be better, but it's definetly worth my time.

 

Yes, some people no doubt get others to pay the Rolls Royce price. However, to do this they must play Eve like it's a job.  Otherwise, CCP would not make any profit.

Strange, I haven't done PVE/mining in some 6y, don't leech on alliance members working for me, dont use bots, my reaction towers and blueprints are not used atm and wooosh, wtf, 4.1b in 90 minutes....that's 8 months of EVE subscription for 1 character.

Damn what a harsh job this is.

 

**there are more ways to earn ISK ingame, not all efforts need grinding.

 

 

 

You are a very unusual Eve player. To you, a Titan - the most expensive ship class in the game - must be reasonably affordable.

 

It takes most players an hour of running level 4 missions to earn a fraction of 1b ISK.

 

Congratulations on winning Eve.

  Cryptor

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Joined: 10/03/06
Posts: 476

12/01/13 3:37:01 PM#72
I like the new changes in Eve A LOT, people that are quitting due to them (if any are actually doing that, I sincerely doubt it) are exactly the lot that should leave in order to make this a better game for the rest of us.
  Hazelle

Novice Member

Joined: 1/20/11
Posts: 773

12/01/13 10:44:16 PM#73
Originally posted by Mors.Magne
Originally posted by Hazelle
Originally posted by Mors.Magne
Originally posted by Hazelle

WIS features:

Walking in a station.

Yeah that's so much better than time dilation, revamped bounty hunter system, crimewatch, new ships, etc. etc. etc. Things that actually add to the game of eve online.  Being able to go for a stroll in a station isn't going to be the rise or fall of a PC or player corp in the eve universe.  No ships are destroyed when you have you toon sit down.  No fortunes will be made when you opt to have your toon stand.

As far as price goes:

Rift :  14.99 a month or $65.94 for 6 months + pay to play expansion

WoW: 14.99 a month or 77.94 for 6 months + pay to play expansion

SWTOR: 14.99 a month or 77.94 for 6 months + pay to play expansion

Eve:  14.95 per month or 71.70 for 6 months + no additional cost for expansions

You can see that the subscription price scheme is in line with the other games listed above, infact, it's cheaper than a few and you don't directly pay for expansions as you do for the other games listed.

Of course you could just choose to pay in PLEX and get everything for free.

 

 

 

No. The list you mention are tweaks to gameplay already there. They are subject to the law of diminishing returns.

 

The other games you list are overpriced and are not representative of the MMORPG genre as it is becoming. For example, GW2 has no subscription but now gets better reviews than WoW. SWTOR has a reputation for awfulness.

You are going to have to explain what you mean by those features being subject to the laws of diminishing returns I'm not seeing the connection.

Those games I listed are the most popular for the subscription payment scheme which is what we were discussing.  GW2 doesn't offer subsription fees so why would I list it?  However, if you want to discuss the cheapest payment scheme it's CCP's PLEX scheme:  Don't want to pay a sub fee?  Don't want to pay for an expansion?  Buy a plex with your ingame success and play for free.  No sub fee and no expansion cost = Zero dollars only ISK which doesn't exist outside of the game.  PLEX beats all the other MMORPG payment schemes.

 

 

One possible explanation as to why you're not aware of the "law of diminishing returns" is your relatively young age (or the relatively short length of time you've been playing MMORPGs). You simply haven't got to that stage in your gaming life yet.

 

Therefore, for you, the subscription probably is still worth it.

Non of what you typed above is relevant because I'm aware of the concept but I don't see how it applies in your example; but you've asserted that it does, so go ahead and explain your position.

  Mors.Magne

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12/02/13 5:56:08 AM#74
Originally posted by Hazelle
Originally posted by Mors.Magne
Originally posted by Hazelle
Originally posted by Mors.Magne
Originally posted by Hazelle

WIS features:

Walking in a station.

Yeah that's so much better than time dilation, revamped bounty hunter system, crimewatch, new ships, etc. etc. etc. Things that actually add to the game of eve online.  Being able to go for a stroll in a station isn't going to be the rise or fall of a PC or player corp in the eve universe.  No ships are destroyed when you have you toon sit down.  No fortunes will be made when you opt to have your toon stand.

As far as price goes:

Rift :  14.99 a month or $65.94 for 6 months + pay to play expansion

WoW: 14.99 a month or 77.94 for 6 months + pay to play expansion

SWTOR: 14.99 a month or 77.94 for 6 months + pay to play expansion

Eve:  14.95 per month or 71.70 for 6 months + no additional cost for expansions

You can see that the subscription price scheme is in line with the other games listed above, infact, it's cheaper than a few and you don't directly pay for expansions as you do for the other games listed.

Of course you could just choose to pay in PLEX and get everything for free.

 

 

 

No. The list you mention are tweaks to gameplay already there. They are subject to the law of diminishing returns.

 

The other games you list are overpriced and are not representative of the MMORPG genre as it is becoming. For example, GW2 has no subscription but now gets better reviews than WoW. SWTOR has a reputation for awfulness.

You are going to have to explain what you mean by those features being subject to the laws of diminishing returns I'm not seeing the connection.

Those games I listed are the most popular for the subscription payment scheme which is what we were discussing.  GW2 doesn't offer subsription fees so why would I list it?  However, if you want to discuss the cheapest payment scheme it's CCP's PLEX scheme:  Don't want to pay a sub fee?  Don't want to pay for an expansion?  Buy a plex with your ingame success and play for free.  No sub fee and no expansion cost = Zero dollars only ISK which doesn't exist outside of the game.  PLEX beats all the other MMORPG payment schemes.

 

 

One possible explanation as to why you're not aware of the "law of diminishing returns" is your relatively young age (or the relatively short length of time you've been playing MMORPGs). You simply haven't got to that stage in your gaming life yet.

 

Therefore, for you, the subscription probably is still worth it.

Non of what you typed above is relevant because I'm aware of the concept but I don't see how it applies in your example; but you've asserted that it does, so go ahead and explain your position.

 

Assuming you have first-hand experience of the concept of the 'law of diminishing returns', here goes:

 

Eve Online relies on an infinite variation of player-made interaction in order to maintain infinite player interest. However, the flaw is that Eve Online does not have an infinite variation of player-made interaction. 

 

Many of the activities within Eve Online are similar and finite. For example, gate camping. 

 

Once you have experienced several examples of each activity, interest tends to wain. 

 

Waining of interest is delayed by the time-based skilling system that delays the gaining of experience of each activity.

 

Currently, CCP are countering this by releasing content that can be quickly experienced and are marketing it as infinite content, e.g. - "Rubican - there is no turning back". (The implication being you could spend your whole life enjoying Eve!)

 

The solution is to enable players to generate infinite content - such as giving us a 'lego set' in space - similar to MineCraft. But CCP have other plans - they are using most of the revenue from Eve to fund WoD, DUST, and Valkyrie etc.

 

I really hope that answers your question!

  Loktofeit

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12/02/13 8:03:44 AM#75
Originally posted by Mors.Magne

Currently, CCP are countering this by releasing content that can be quickly experienced and are marketing it as infinite content, e.g. - "Rubican - there is no turning back". (The implication being you could spend your whole life enjoying Eve!)

 

Actually, the tagline refers to the event the expansion was named after which is the Crossing of the Rubicon, an historical moment where Caesar's army knew that by crossing over, their actions would be seen as insurrection and there would be no turning back for them. In Rubicon, there are features, live events and storyline that focus on this turning point, as the players seize further control of the universe in which they inhabit, basically defying the NPC empires to which they normally answer. It's one of the first steps in CCP Seagull's vision for the direction of EVE Online, and an example of the type of the content you'll see in future expansions.

The rest of your post was... well, you seem rather convinced of it, so I'll leave you to your beliefs.

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  hfztt

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12/02/13 9:19:38 AM#76

The solution is to enable players to generate infinite content - such as giving us a 'lego set' in space - similar to MineCraft. 

Ok, that logic i flawed. Any player made content is still bound by limits, thus in the end will only deliver a finite amount of variations, not unlike your gate camp example, and thus turn repetitive and have deminishing returns following you own logic. Player made content is not some kind magic well that will turn out infinete content. It will create scenarios playing out within a given set of rules, and thus only marginally different from random generated content.

That aside you are completely misusing the concept of deminishing returns...

  Quazal.A

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12/02/13 9:34:15 AM#77
Originally posted by enik3
EVE is a better game when carebears/miners aren't involved anyway.

I love this comment , now answer me this

 

Are you

A - Pirate or

B a Null sec PvPer

Now both of them require 'us carebears' to build their ships, who do you think does that, do the minerals magically become ships and modules, for every ship you lose it takes on average  12 hours build time PER SHIP (tried finding the post on Eve-O but couldn't)

So you want to get rid of crebears and miners, ok the new rule for you is each time you lose a ship you have ot spend the next 12 hours or so building a new one how does that suit you?

So it might take say 1hour to lose  a ship but then you spend 12hours building, so the carebears are no longer in game :)

and ftr im not a major pvper maybe in region of 1,000 kill and 100 losses, nothing major but i am a major production on average 4000 modules per week  + 100 t2 ships, so yes i have the title carebear but dont assume we suck :)

 

Now in terms of the OP

 

If your an old vet like me you will remember the speed nerf... oh my 18k m/s BS :( or how about the missile change that rendered ALL CALDARI Missile boats pointless 

so you see your minor ice mining inconvenience isn't that big, yes it might be a pain, but how about normal mining, or is that too much of a pain for your BOT to change roids every 2cycles

 

So through out eve (and every MMO) changes happen you said game was great before last patch, but what made it great ?? the changes from the original game? 

Heck if you want original game how would you fancy mining in a Harbinger, ? bugger your mackinaw and hulk you had to mine in cruisers / BC then BS 

so you see without development of game it wouldn't of been the game you love, so your small minded (or anti BOT ) change might of ballsed your game up, but for  alot of us it made it more worthwhile.

yes my 12 posses fuel have gone up, but meh small price to pay to rid 70% of the bots from game i say

This post is all my opinion, but I welcome debate on anything i have put, however, personal slander / name calling belongs in game :) were of course your welcome to call me names im often found lounging about in EvE online.
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  Ender4

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12/02/13 10:19:02 AM#78

The way EVE's skill system works kind of requires it to stay pay to play or everyone would have 20 alts perfectly specialized. This is probably the only MMORPG on the market that is worth paying a monthly sub for. The fact you can grind out your sub in game works even better.

It also has found the perfect balance between the PvP crowd and PvE crowd. Both are crucial parts of the game and removing either of them would ruin the game.

  Mors.Magne

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12/02/13 5:34:26 PM#79
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by Mors.Magne

Currently, CCP are countering this by releasing content that can be quickly experienced and are marketing it as infinite content, e.g. - "Rubican - there is no turning back". (The implication being you could spend your whole life enjoying Eve!)

 

Actually, the tagline refers to the event the expansion was named after which is the Crossing of the Rubicon, an historical moment where Caesar's army knew that by crossing over, their actions would be seen as insurrection and there would be no turning back for them. In Rubicon, there are features, live events and storyline that focus on this turning point, as the players seize further control of the universe in which they inhabit, basically defying the NPC empires to which they normally answer. It's one of the first steps in CCP Seagull's vision for the direction of EVE Online, and an example of the type of the content you'll see in future expansions.

The rest of your post was... well, you seem rather convinced of it, so I'll leave you to your beliefs.

As it happens, I work for a PR company. It's common to see 'strap lines' that work on different levels.

 

For example, a third meaning of "no turning back", in the context of space ships, is reaching escape velocity. 

 

However, often the meaning the advertiser wants you to understand is the one that requires the least thought. It's the understanding that the lowest common denominator, such as a 14 year old, would understand.

  Mors.Magne

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12/02/13 5:42:53 PM#80
Originally posted by hfztt

The solution is to enable players to generate infinite content - such as giving us a 'lego set' in space - similar to MineCraft. 

Ok, that logic i flawed. Any player made content is still bound by limits, thus in the end will only deliver a finite amount of variations, not unlike your gate camp example, and thus turn repetitive and have deminishing returns following you own logic. Player made content is not some kind magic well that will turn out infinete content. It will create scenarios playing out within a given set of rules, and thus only marginally different from random generated content.

That aside you are completely misusing the concept of deminishing returns...

 

Well, philosophically if we all lived forever, every experience possible would eventually repeat and would be subject to the law of diminishing returns. 

 

Therefore, what is required is for CCP to create enough 'lego blocks' to provide adequate variation to entertain humans up to their maximum human lifespan.

 

I don't know how many types of 'lego blocks' that is, but I expect it's rather a lot.

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