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  DMKano

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11/22/13 3:24:43 AM#21
Originally posted by Razeekster
Originally posted by DMKano

It's amazing how folks are not getting the real point -read between the lines - XL Delayed the US release, because they want to fix the issues that Koreans players have complained about the most. Trion is doing damage control here and looking like the bad guys - but that's what you have to do sometimes.

And as someone who plays AA on Korean servers I agree.

If AA was released as is - today - in US/EU - players would not get why there are 30 levels of questing and hubs. People would be - I thought this was a sandbox - WTF!!!

Yeah, the first 30 levels are a tutorial, which makes no sense to any western gamer - XL is fixing that and lots of other things.

So, people want things NOW without realizing that it's actually better to wait for a few more months and have a 10x better game that western audience can actually appreciate more.

But, forget all I said - just keep blaming Trion for everything, lol 

That was a problem I noticed with the Japan version as well. Basically it felt like a linear themepark for 30 levels before the real fun began which was sort of a bummer.

 

I am glad they are fixing these issues it just seems like most people have lost interest due to having to wait so long.

Since there is not a single other game on the market like AA (taking into account the polish, open world non-instanced PvE/PvP, 120 classes, crafting/farming etc...), the interest will pick up again fast (once beta comes up), and as the game will most likely have the same pay model as Rift - it won't cost anyone a dime to at least try it.

 

  hasho83

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11/22/13 3:27:27 AM#22
Dohhh im starting to learn Russian language .....
  tom_gore

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11/22/13 3:32:04 AM#23
Originally posted by DMKano

It's amazing how folks are not getting the real point -read between the lines - XL Delayed the US release, because they want to fix the issues that Koreans players have complained about the most. Trion is doing damage control here and looking like the bad guys - but that's what you have to do sometimes.

And as someone who plays AA on Korean servers I agree.

If AA was released as is - today - in US/EU - players would not get why there are 30 levels of questing and hubs. People would be - I thought this was a sandbox - WTF!!!

Yeah, the first 30 levels are a tutorial, which makes no sense to any western gamer - XL is fixing that and lots of other things.

So, people want things NOW without realizing that it's actually better to wait for a few more months and have a 10x better game that western audience can actually appreciate more.

But, forget all I said - just keep blaming Trion for everything, lol 

I just don't get how removing 30 levels of quest content would take a year to do? ;)

  Kilrain

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11/22/13 3:40:18 AM#24
Originally posted by Razeekster
Originally posted by NightBandit

This game will end up contesting against TESO so there will be no contest IMO Asian or Western again no contest. IMO the game is already looking out of date and if they don't improve the game play from what I've already seen then it will just end up as another Linage type game but with bobbles on.

I'm not going to even bother beta testing never mind paying for it.

Pretty sure this game is already better than ESO... Build houses where you want, be a pirate and sail on the seas, explore for underwater treasure in diving gear, sieges, gliding over vast plains, a court and jail system... Yeah, even if it is taking a ridiculous amount of time to be published in the NA I'd rather play this game than another generic themepark.

 

Also, I played the Open Beta of the game in Japan and the graphics look pretty great so no clue what you're going on about the graphics being "outdated."

Regardless, get excited for something for long enough and it can dwindle down and eventually the excitement goes. This is why hype is a bad thing.

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  Ekadd

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11/22/13 5:05:41 AM#25
Originally posted by wangkom
I cant friggin believe that Russia will have a beta before the NA, what a big joke.

This.

I was excited now i just don't care about this game. If you game developer and if you ignore big player base dont worry, they will ignore you too. Its nature instinct.. 

  Mawnee

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11/22/13 5:21:37 AM#26

Wow, I was in Korean CB5 like a year and a half ago. While I really, really liked the game..... I worry that by the time it comes out in the US it will already be dated.

  DamonVile

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11/22/13 5:29:23 AM#27
Originally posted by Ekadd
Originally posted by wangkom
I cant friggin believe that Russia will have a beta before the NA, what a big joke.

This.

I was excited now i just don't care about this game. If you game developer and if you ignore big player base dont worry, they will ignore you too. Its nature instinct.. 

You think russia is a small player base ? If world of tanks had to shut down Russia or NA guess which one they'd pick...without having to ever give it a second though ?

  Xer0id

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11/22/13 5:42:12 AM#28

I remember when TRION picked up the game, and was excited for it way over a year ago. That excitement is dwindling with the release of newer sandbox titles, It's safe to say that it's lost the advantage it had back in the day.

People have demanded for any type of word on when the game will hit shores for NA. It's already the end of the year and nothing significant has been planned, just some small talks that really don't tell us anything that we want to hear. Basically if you don't tell us when the game will be released on our shores. Respectfully DIE IN A BLAZING FIRE! AHHHHH!!! *ehem*

I'm quite disappointed and ashamed in TRION and hope they never pick up another game again. TRION - SHAMRFUR DISPRAY! - The russians are getting ahead of us for crying out loud! THE FLIPPIN RUSSIANS!

This wait is horrible just.....ughhh..... and I think if you make us wait any longer!

we will all end up like arnold below ;(

 

  Kiwidream

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11/22/13 5:48:03 AM#29
So looking forward to this game!
  SavageHorizon

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11/22/13 5:48:21 AM#30
Originally posted by NightBandit

This game will end up contesting against TESO so there will be no contest IMO Asian or Western again no contest. IMO the game is already looking out of date and if they don't improve the game play from what I've already seen then it will just end up as another Linage type game but with bobbles on.

I'm not going to even bother beta testing never mind paying for it.

What a load of rubbish  lol, ArcheAge crushes TESO in graphics and features.

I've played both games and one has beautiful graphics, animations and great features. The other is made up of instancing and has crappy animation, decent graphics, no housing and no world PVP.

The physics in AA are truly outstanding, planting tress, farming, climbing trees, raising livestock.

Oh and did i mention that you can wear any armour and use any weapon and the games has 120 class combinations. Yes it's lock on combat but it also has collision detection so spells don't fly through objects.

Want me to continue, ok.  Zenimax have turned TES into a standard same old mmo that we have seen for years with a little DAOC twist.

Games like Black Desert, ArcheAge trump it in every way possible. The only thing going for TESO is the IP, that alone will insure ZeniMax make millions but the game is sub par to what it could of been.

I would rather play this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHLEXa7YvPA

And https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-OYWfQ64Sc

And http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n5HVzb59rY

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  SavageHorizon

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11/22/13 5:49:31 AM#31
Originally posted by Ekadd
Originally posted by wangkom
I cant friggin believe that Russia will have a beta before the NA, what a big joke.

This.

I was excited now i just don't care about this game. If you game developer and if you ignore big player base dont worry, they will ignore you too. Its nature instinct.. 

Take a look at your world map lol.

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  tom_gore

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11/22/13 6:13:24 AM#32

Yeah although I would love to see the EU/NA version out ASAP, Americans need to realize they are no longer the #1 market for games, especially PC games. Russia has a very strong PC gaming culture, whereas Americans are moving more and more towards console/set-top box hybrid stuff. Just look at Xbox One and you realize where American gaming is going.

Even EU has more PC gamers today than NA.

 

  jdlamson75

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11/22/13 7:00:48 AM#33
Originally posted by SavageHorizon
Originally posted by Ekadd
Originally posted by wangkom
I cant friggin believe that Russia will have a beta before the NA, what a big joke.

This.

I was excited now i just don't care about this game. If you game developer and if you ignore big player base dont worry, they will ignore you too. Its nature instinct.. 

Take a look at your world map lol.

Take a look at your populations lol.

 

Russia:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Russia

 

USA:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States

 

Canada: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Canada

 

I looked at my world map.  What was I supposed to be looking for again?

  Xer0id

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11/22/13 7:02:58 AM#34
Originally posted by tom_gore

Yeah although I would love to see the EU/NA version out ASAP, Americans need to realize they are no longer the #1 market for games, especially PC games. Russia has a very strong PC gaming culture, whereas Americans are moving more and more towards console/set-top box hybrid stuff. Just look at Xbox One and you realize where American gaming is going.

Even EU has more PC gamers today than NA.

 

Most games end up on the consoles, as that is where the gaming is at currently. I don't believe EU has more PC gamers than NA, please don't make wild assumptions without providing facts and statistics to back up those words.

NA is getting gaming consoles before EU = Fact

Who wants to pay $100 more for  Xbox kinect? Not This Gamer!  and I don't want to pay to get spied on by the NSA, since NSA already provides it for free.

SteamMachine + Oculus Rift to secure our future! It will show as the consoles hardware diminishes under the weight of the future which is PC-Gaming.

Also Xbox one just released 5-hours ago, lets not jump the gun just yet! only time and numbers will tell if people want to buy into a $399 + $100 Kinect. I already hear the failure on the voice command. Apparently coughing turns the pause off of your game.

 

  tom_gore

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11/22/13 7:35:51 AM#35

Well yes it's pretty difficult to get any solid numbers for PC gaming, as most games are sold via digital distribution services that don't give out their numbers (Steam being the biggest, obviously). Still, if we want to work with the numbers we've got:

vgchartz.com statistic for 2013, top 100 sold games, there are 2 PC games in the US chart (total sales 807k units and some), while there are 10 PC titles in the Europe chart (total sales 2.5M units and some)

It's not hard data, but I would suppose it's still an indication. US is a console country. You said it yourself that the new consoles are released there first. Wonder why?

 

EDIT: And yeah I know NA does not mean just USA. Unfortunately I have no data for Canada.

 

 

 

  Dauzqul

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11/22/13 8:05:37 AM#36

They can't take too much time. This game looked perfect a few years ago. Now it will ultimately be destroyed by EverQuest Next.

ArcheAge looked great to so many because it was virtually the only softcore sandpark that has been offered since the WoW-clones. No we hear news of several different like-minded games popping up or in development.

  tomyzr

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11/22/13 8:07:23 AM#37
XL doesn't care about western release, Trion doesn't care about it either, its simple as that
  DMKano

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11/22/13 8:19:31 AM#38
Originally posted by tomyzr
XL doesn't care about western release, Trion doesn't care about it either, its simple as that

XL knows first hand - lots of Korean players left the game for the same reasons, so XL is redoing a bunch of stuff (30 levels are not even the biggest part).

Its not quite as extreme as a full re-launch that SE did with FF14ARR, but there are new classes, new progression for PvE/PvP, crafting and economy. Hand holding is being thrown out the window in a big way on all fronts.

Massive changes.

 

If your theory had any merit, do you think XL would be doing any of this? If they don't do this fast, China and Russian playerbase will complain about the same stuff, so their window is very small, They have 2 months at most.

 

 

  Ekadd

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11/22/13 8:31:17 AM#39
Originally posted by SavageHorizon
Originally posted by Ekadd
Originally posted by wangkom
I cant friggin believe that Russia will have a beta before the NA, what a big joke.

This.

I was excited now i just don't care about this game. If you game developer and if you ignore big player base dont worry, they will ignore you too. Its nature instinct.. 

Take a look at your world map lol.

Im really not here to fight for this game  and i was really waiting for this game but after look at my maps "US, Canada, Europe" pretty sure total size and playerbase bigger than Russia. That's what i was talking about ;)

  tom_gore

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11/22/13 8:36:20 AM#40
Originally posted by Ekadd
Originally posted by SavageHorizon
Originally posted by Ekadd
Originally posted by wangkom
I cant friggin believe that Russia will have a beta before the NA, what a big joke.

This.

I was excited now i just don't care about this game. If you game developer and if you ignore big player base dont worry, they will ignore you too. Its nature instinct.. 

Take a look at your world map lol.

Im really not here to fight for this game  and i was really waiting for this game but after look at my maps "US, Canada, Europe" pretty sure total size and playerbase bigger than Russia. That's what i was talking about ;)

 

Yeah, but to cover "US, Canada, Europe" you need to publish with at least 5 languages (English, Spanish, French, German and Italian), whereas publishing in Russia you only need one.

 

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