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  Torvaldr

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11/16/13 3:26:34 PM#41

It's weird they would use the 'trivialize' argument in a game that grants insta-levels. I don't think he's being honest about the forced pvp part. I think they do want to force that and flying allows players to bypass it which is what the player wants.

EQ2 still have flying mounts at high levels and it doesn't trivialize anything. A player can go around and view the region, but you can't really see shinies, mobs, or get a great exploratory experience unless you hit the ground.

Curse you AquaScum!

  xeniar

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OP  11/16/13 3:37:17 PM#42
Originally posted by jtcgs
Originally posted by xeniar
Originally posted by jtcgs

Oh wait, so having to do quests to get gold makes gold easy but somehow having to do quests to get flying means no more instant gratification.

 

Hypocrisy...exposed.

 

This is nothing more than a bitchfest. WoW is a grind, period.

Now you are taking things out of perspective. you do those quests so you can level up to 100 in that timeperiod you get enough gold to buy the new flying. So your not doing quest to purchase flying your doing them to get to 100. thats a big diffrence.

Now when you get too 100 you can normally purchase your flyskill instead you now have to do more quests in order to unlock your flying. You have to actually do something now in order to unlock it.

apearantly your the only one here who fails to see what the entire blue post is saying.

What am i bitching about? i gave blizzard a compliment on taking a step in the right direction. your the one bitching about stuff.

Hypocrisy...exposed.

 

You place things into the context you must in order to lend weight to your argument which does not stand up to criticism. You must do quests for gold to get your flying and thus it isn't being handed to you...ground mounts however are, because you do not need to pay anything, do any quests or even go to a trainer to make it available. Its just there, because you trained it previously.

 

Hypocrisy...exposed.

 

BTW, apparently you don't get the point of my argument, hypocrisy. You only like it because it fits into your overall disliking of even having flying mounts in the game. Otherwise, you would be pushing for ground mounts to become locked as well as faction rep and everything else thus increasing the amount of grind in the game.

i dont need to pay anything for ground mounts? so i never had to spend a copper on em? neat did not know that.

i don't have to do quests to get gold. i could do BG's asswell, there more activities to get gold in WoW. Whatever you do to get to lvl 100 will get you enough gold to get the flying ability. and u need to be level 100 to get flying again. So leveling to 100 is more important then getting gold. because the gold gets handed to you on the side. So in that light u do not have to work ur ass of to get gold because you already have it. wow hard to understand aye?

Lock groundmounts i don´t care id glady work for em again as i have in vanilla. IT makes the game have some sort of meaning instead of just a gearthreadmil. But you apearantly do not understand why blizzard is locking flying in the first place.. have you read the blue post?

Yeah i am basicly vouching for more grind to the game. wanna know why? it takes a idiotic 2 weeks to level to cap and that is just wrong. 

But anyway we are discussing blizzards slight change of heart regarding flying. That they are looking away from the instant-gratification because getting a reward is more epic if you actually had to work for it.

  jtcgs

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11/16/13 4:06:15 PM#43
Originally posted by xeniar

Yeah i am basicly vouching for more grind to the game. wanna know why? it takes a idiotic 2 weeks to level to cap and that is just wrong. 

And yet adding quests to unlock flying does nothing to change that and also mutes every previous point you made...congrats. This is what hypocrisy gets you...and you did that all while defending ground mounts staying unlocked which will still make getting to the new cap a breeze...hypocrisy.

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  Katilla

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11/16/13 5:40:17 PM#44
i'm going to respond to the title of this thread.  giving you a lvl 90 character isn't instant gratification? This type of spoonfeeding the player base is what made me quit this game.
  Jean-Luc_Picard

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11/17/13 6:51:31 AM#45
Originally posted by xeniar

I don't think blizzard will remove it entirely but it might depend on how patch 6.0-6.1 goes. who knows mabey people will like it and blizzard will act upon it.

And make the thousands of flying mounts some people collected over the years, some of which are very hard to get rares, obsolete? If you believe that, you and me don't live in the same kind of reality.

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  expresso

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11/17/13 7:29:20 AM#46
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
Originally posted by xeniar

I don't think blizzard will remove it entirely but it might depend on how patch 6.0-6.1 goes. who knows mabey people will like it and blizzard will act upon it.

And make the thousands of flying mounts some people collected over the years, some of which are very hard to get rares, obsolete? If you believe that, you and me don't live in the same kind of reality.

All flying mounts can run across the ground, they ain't obsolete.

  Jean-Luc_Picard

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11/17/13 7:51:17 AM#47
Originally posted by expresso
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
Originally posted by xeniar

I don't think blizzard will remove it entirely but it might depend on how patch 6.0-6.1 goes. who knows mabey people will like it and blizzard will act upon it.

And make the thousands of flying mounts some people collected over the years, some of which are very hard to get rares, obsolete? If you believe that, you and me don't live in the same kind of reality.

All flying mounts can run across the ground, they ain't obsolete.

Not only this is definitely wrong, but it's also quite ridiculous. And do you honestly think the people who collected all those mounts would be satisfied if their winged dragon or ashes of al'ar had to hover over the ground, no longer being able to fly?

There would be a massive uproar, and I would definitely be part of it.

You can't go back. You're going to have to accept that, or you're in for a big disapointment. Blizzard aren't even remotely that stupid.

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  muffins89

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11/17/13 7:57:31 AM#48
it took me almost 2 years to save up enough gold to be able to fly.  im glad the developers see that certain things in the game should be a challenge.  I hope that the quest line or whatever it is they decide players must complete in order to fly in the expansion is a challenge.

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  Jean-Luc_Picard

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11/17/13 8:02:39 AM#49
Originally posted by muffins89
it took me almost 2 years to save up enough gold to be able to fly.  im glad the developers see that certain things in the game should be a challenge.  I hope that the quest line or whatever it is they decide players must complete in order to fly in the expansion is a challenge.

I just hope it won't involve farming dungeons/raids.

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  Demogorgon

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11/17/13 9:40:37 AM#50
Originally posted by Wizardry

Well they also laughed at the notion of buying a max level account,yet here we are.

I would say this stance changes at some point,we never really know what they are thinking behind closed doors,one man's word doesn't mean a lot,if others inside the team want it in,then it probably makes it in.

I would hardly say that for now it is Blizzard steering away from instant gratification as a no fly zone has nothing to do with gratification ,they are still a hand holding game and have a LOT of work to do to get away from that stigma.

I see Blizzard being a premier EASY,hand holding game right to the end of it's existence,the only changes i see for the future is when it goes f2p and starts selling all those EASY or easier options.

This^

Well said.

  Umbrood

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11/17/13 10:08:25 AM#51

Would it not be better to kind of keep it the old way?

In no expansion did you have flying from the get go, you got it at max lvl for that exp pack or one or two levels earlier.

Keep it that way and up the ante a bit, lvl 100 requirement, some fairly grotesque quest chain on top of that, and just remove it slowly.

Some nice reward as well for that chain to make it worth doing even after the requirement is lifted.

 

Better still, make it a community quest of some sort, were everyone can chip in.

 

Do not just artificially remove it and then tack it on, that is almost as immersion breaking as a dead world with "people being airborne at all times".

I am sure this can be done within the context of the game, and perhaps even add to the experience, rather then the opposite?

 

Even if this still ends up with flying being unavailable for the first couple of months, I do not think people would mind as much.

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  Tjed

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11/17/13 1:21:29 PM#52
I think it's awesome.  If they stick to their guns here then I'll really be looking forward to playing this expansion.  I skipped pandaria after not really liking cata.  I would love to do a new expansion with everyone grounded for a while. 
  sportsfan

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11/18/13 3:19:28 AM#53
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
Originally posted by xeniar

I don't think blizzard will remove it entirely but it might depend on how patch 6.0-6.1 goes. who knows mabey people will like it and blizzard will act upon it.

And make the thousands of flying mounts some people collected over the years, some of which are very hard to get rares, obsolete? If you believe that, you and me don't live in the same kind of reality.

Not obsolete but restricted for new content could be done really.

Since these things are pure "show offs" letting them fly over the cities is great.

But not using them for a quest: "Get on the top of that hill to open the Holly Grail chest" with 2 tribes encircling the mountain...

 

  Omnifish

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11/18/13 3:28:46 AM#54

It's a rather dumb thing because people will complain that Blizzard are, 'taking something away', or, 'making it too difficult to gain something'...much like the idiotic idea of reverting back to rep grind and valor gear in MOP was.

You can't let people have something and then take it away and say that's better for them. The perception is just that a companies making it more difficult for the playerbase to progress, regardless of how it might make the game, 'better', overall..

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  Jean-Luc_Picard

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11/18/13 3:53:50 AM#55
Originally posted by Omnifish

The perception is just that a companies making it more difficult for the playerbase to progress, regardless of how it might make the game, 'better', overall..

Exactly. To me, its sounds just like an excuse to slow down people and add another grind to the game.

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  falconhand

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11/18/13 4:18:21 AM#56

I liked the mop system with flying. You hit end level, you get for decent amount of gold the right to fly.

Having a epic questline like the cloack is not fair for the fly option.

My girlfriend and I are casual players, at least in fight skills :)

But we like to make things with our crafters and like to gather the materials.

Making flying at the level 100 cap elitish is a game breaking situation.

We do not care for not having the epic cloack. But having not the flying option when gathering materials compared to players who have the flying option is a to big of difference.

Some are loving the garrison idea and gathering materials and crafting. But do not care about raiding etc.

With mop we at least did know that at level 90 we can get the flying option.

Maybe all the responders before me are not gathering or crafting, I do not know, but for those who are, do all know the feeling during the leveling 85 - 90 in mop you see on the map a node, fight your way to it, and when allmost there a player on flying mount gathers it just before you reach it.

When making flying elite, like some want, is a to big disadvantage.

Again we do not care we die a lot, we do not care our ilevel is to low to enter some of the instances, we do not care we are one shotted at pvp, but at least let us have our crafting and gathering materials by using like in mop at end level the flying mount.

 

  Mors.Magne

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11/18/13 5:42:47 AM#57
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard

Flying should never have happened, ever. Flying mounts are in my opinion a mistake in any ground based MMORPG.

But now it's part of the game, some people have spent months farming the most rare flying mounts, no way Blizzard is going to piss those people off. And personally, the way they implement this will decide when I buy the expansion, if I buy it at all.

Flying mounts are both a curse and a blessing.

 

They're a curse because the magic and wonder of the land disappears, and the chances of PvP occurring are practically nil so a lot of the excitement evaporates as well.

 

They are a blessing because they make you realise what a waste of time a lot of MMORPGs are: What you want are the 'elusive' rewards. Mounts make the rewards less elusive, so when you get them without the effort (and faster per-unit-time) it's easier to appreciate that MMORPGs are a massive waste of time when it starts becoming like a job.

  Renoaku

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11/18/13 5:53:19 AM#58
This makes me very glad that I quit wow with my 5 wow accounts way back I get tired of the constant nerfs that Blizzard makes and now changes like this they should leave it open to the customer how they want to play the game and give flying at the same level you get a regular mount its very stupid that I can't play wow and enjoy the game the way I want to.
  palulalula

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11/18/13 5:57:20 AM#59
WOW world is to huge without flying. It is the best thing for me 
  Dogblaster

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11/18/13 5:59:28 AM#60
Originally posted by Renoaku
This makes me very glad that I quit wow with my 5 wow accounts way back I get tired of the constant nerfs that Blizzard makes and now changes like this they should leave it open to the customer how they want to play the game and give flying at the same level you get a regular mount its very stupid that I can't play wow and enjoy the game the way I want to.

WoW is themepark, not sandbox ... players always played the game how developers wanted them to :) nothing has changed

 

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