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  lizardbones

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11/17/13 6:52:00 PM#61

Isn't "don't get your hopes up" just sort of general good advice? It doesn't really matter what game we're talking about. There's no way to tell if a game is 'good' or not until it releases, and even then it might require a bit of play through to really tell.

It's all relative anyway. If you get your hopes up higher than the game can deliver, then you will be disappointed. Did you get your hopes up too high or did the game under perform? It's all the same.

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  Ppiper

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11/17/13 6:54:38 PM#62
Originally posted by Wiha
I was hyped until they revealed it. 

lol, true dat!

  Outis

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11/17/13 7:04:21 PM#63
Originally posted by GwapoJosh
Originally posted by Wiha
I was hyped until they revealed it. 

Same for me..

+2

I will still give the game a try but its not an "omg I want this now" factor anymore

  drakaena

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11/17/13 7:08:31 PM#64
My gut tells me EQN is going to be an absolute train wreck. Diehard EQ fans are going to turn on this new gen version with the quickness. SOE cut off the nose to spite the face.
  SoulTrapOnSelf

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11/17/13 7:27:57 PM#65
SOE is involved, so just because of that fact, I won't have any hopes for this game.
  goboygo

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11/17/13 8:11:43 PM#66
Originally posted by Alber_gamer

It's a great thing to have forum justicars that for the good of mankind step in to tell us what we should be hyped about.

 

I have to thank you for your heroic efforts towards the bettering of the quality of life of the human race.

I think you were trying to shoot for some epic retort but it just came off as..........space cadety.

  jtcgs

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11/17/13 8:18:07 PM#67
Originally posted by salaciouscrumbs

Beware for the following reasons:

  • There will be a cash shop and it will be free-to-play, not a subscription model - people seem to be forgetting this
  • No evidence shown that multi-classing will be any different than Guild Wars 2 (failed) attempt at improving groups

I can toss out what you say going by that alone...

Your F2P comment smacks of either trolling, or a lack of actual knowledge of the genre as a whole. And the failed groups in GW2 were those that could not wrap their heads around a new idea, was stuck in the past and just wound up sucking. Thankfully, my guild is doing great with the new roles and the challenge it brings...something the genre has been lacking for a decade...glad to know the genre actually IS evolving and leaving the WoW clones behind.

You want to stay trapped in the past? No problem, TESO is just around the corner and the developers want you to play it, since they couldn't come up with any new ideas...at all.

“I hope we shall crush...in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." ~Thomes Jefferson

  Antiquated

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11/17/13 8:44:23 PM#68

I'm actually pretty tired of being warned against hope.

Think I'll gleefully embrace things again and manage my own consequences, like an adult.

  ignore_me

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11/17/13 9:15:55 PM#69
They could have revealed the game at this year's upcoming SOE live and that would have made more sense. I have suspicion that EQNext won't be out for a good year and a half at least.

Survivor of the great MMORPG Famine of 2011

  jtcgs

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11/17/13 9:19:32 PM#70
Originally posted by ignore_me
They could have revealed the game at this year's upcoming SOE live and that would have made more sense. I have suspicion that EQNext won't be out for a good year and a half at least.

Perhaps longer, The Alpha isn't starting until December which means Beta wont be until Spring. So even spring of 2015 would make it only 1 year of complete beta testing which is rather short.

“I hope we shall crush...in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." ~Thomes Jefferson

  ignore_me

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11/17/13 9:21:57 PM#71
Originally posted by jtcgs
Originally posted by ignore_me
They could have revealed the game at this year's upcoming SOE live and that would have made more sense. I have suspicion that EQNext won't be out for a good year and a half at least.

Perhaps longer, The Alpha isn't starting until December which means Beta wont be until Spring. So even spring of 2015 would make it only 1 year of complete beta testing which is rather short.

Word.

Survivor of the great MMORPG Famine of 2011

  superconducting

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11/17/13 9:25:50 PM#72

+1 to salacious crumb for this post. I hope you can change your avatar to our furry friend from Star Wars (his appearance just makes me smirk).

 

In my mind there are really only TWO things that set this game apart from other MMOs:

1. Large extent of Destructibility which has not been seen to date

2. Intelligent AI that goes well beyond anything currently out there

 

The rest is more or less a rehash of everything that's already been done and overdone ten times before. I personally don't agree with the kiddish art style and neither do a great many. There have been qualms about splitting of playerbase between landmark and EQN. There appears to not be enough continuity with preexisting EQ series and lore. The multiclassing is nothing to get over excited about. There is no real first person view. And although it may look like there is community involvement, the reality is that it falls short from that seen in kickstarted projects, and in fact may be more of a PR tool.

 

Now that's not saying it won't be a fun and exciting game- it probably will. And who knows, it may even turn out to be the WoW killer. But the point is that people should not be unrealistic with their expectations about this MMO.

 

Right now my hopes lie in ESO which is shaping up to be a real great game. For one thing I know I would feel less like I'm playing a family-friendly game.

  Yizle

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11/17/13 9:34:09 PM#73
Originally posted by Wiha
I was hyped until they revealed it. 

This is me also. Everything about it has made me feel more bleh about it.

  dandurin

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11/17/13 11:02:51 PM#74
Originally posted by salaciouscrumbs

...

All indications are that SOE is going down the same path as every other publisher for the last 10 years, taking no risks (with regards to mechanics being different to WoW) outside of the voxel-destruction.
 ...
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?
  Arclan

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11/18/13 8:13:42 PM#75


Originally posted by dandurin
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?

Is that a quote from somewhere? Has to be the funniest ish I've read in a long time.

Luckily, i don't need you to like me to enjoy video games. -nariusseldon.
In F2P I think it's more a case of the game's trying to play the player's. -laserit
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  lizardbones

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11/18/13 8:53:26 PM#76


Originally posted by MMOGamer71
Thanks OP for worrying about my hopes.


And yet they ignored your dreams. What are hopes without dreams?

I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.

  movindude

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11/18/13 11:40:50 PM#77

EQ3 im betting more like Vangaurd 2

 

  ElRenmazuo

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11/18/13 11:44:06 PM#78
Originally posted by Sovrath

I would just say "have realistic expectations" and take the game for what it is not for what you read about and then supplied your own images of what you read meant.

So if a developers says it will have "epic sieges where players can make a difference in the world", take that for "will have sieges/some mechanic that claims to resonate in the world beyond that particular siege" and then when the time comes evaluate that siege/mechanic on its own merits.

I think too many gamers are like kids on christmas morning and run down with expecation of "what could be under the tree" and then realize they got the wooden toys.

Well, your parents might not have been able to afford much, wooden toys can be fun, and there is a certain class to them.

Im still waiting for the mmorpg that will make me feel this way...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFlcqWQVVuU&hd=1

https://33.media.tumblr.com/262c40940b3181ade1001120dd379aaa/tumblr_nfrzn853rR1rz64nto6_r1_400.gif

  Mattatron

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11/19/13 12:35:27 AM#79
Originally posted by Mattatron
Originally posted by salaciouscrumbs

If there's any advice I can give to (insert label here to make the reader feel important), I would first say beware putting too much hope into this sodomy in particular. For anyone who is expecting something different than the sodomy of the last decade, guard against hoping to the point of fantasy.

Beware for the following reasons:

   (Insert "facts" about sodomy here, 75% of which being speculative comparison to other sodomies [sodomii?])
 
I don't mention these points to bash the sodomy. I mention them because of the many friends I have who seem to think this sodomy is going to be something that (by all indications) it will not be. Many people also seem to be filling in the blank areas of information with wishful thinking - fantasies of what they believe the sodomy should be rather than realistic speculation as to what it will be.
 
I'm only stating this because I was sodomized - I realize how much my own imagination of what "could have been" blinded me as to what ended up being reality in the end. I honestly wish I hadn't spent so much time involved in that relationship before the sodomy even launched, because the final product was a slap in the face of what we all thought it would be.
 
Just be careful here - wait until most of the information is out before blindly believing that this is going to the next "big one", as many guys seem to have stated recently. I would hate to see the hopes of (insert compliment here to make the reader feel loved) people crushed.

See what I mean? Shall we do it with a 2015 corvette next?

I still think it's silly, and I think it's silly people have contributed to all of this as if it's a real concern. False dilemmas for the win.

  kyssari

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"Reality is but a figment of our collective imaginations." -N.E.S.

11/19/13 12:44:40 AM#80
Don't get how you compare it to GW2 at all considering GW2 only lets you change abilities within your own class not from a pool of 40 some other classes abilities as well...
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