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  PieRad

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11/12/13 2:49:09 PM#21
Originally posted by Holophonist
Originally posted by PieRad
Originally posted by Holophonist

Depends on the genre:

 

RTS: Top 1% or better

FPS: Considerably above average

MOBAs: I suck

 

I doubt it...

In sc2 I'm typically around top .5%

What is your name in SC2?

  Holophonist

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11/12/13 2:49:53 PM#22
Originally posted by PieRad
Originally posted by Holophonist
Originally posted by PieRad
Originally posted by Holophonist

Depends on the genre:

 

RTS: Top 1% or better

FPS: Considerably above average

MOBAs: I suck

 

I doubt it...

In sc2 I'm typically around top .5%

What is your name in SC2?

Holophonist. I doubt you would've heard of me. I'm not pro or anything.

  Boneserino

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11/12/13 2:50:09 PM#23

I hope nobody hates me for this but I don't really play games to test my skill.  Its just not why I play.

  Part of that might stem from the fact that I have very little skill.   I learned pretty quickly that I sucked at RTS games in the late 90's.  FPS I thought I was decent until I got owned by a nephew at Halo.  He destroyed me with childish ease.

And the older you get the less you care anyway.  I  accurately placed myself at slightly better than a mouth breather.

FFA Nonconsentual Full Loot PvP ...You know you want it!!

  Justsomenoob

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11/12/13 2:57:48 PM#24

MMOs hardly have anything to be good at.

 

You've got some basic things to learn which are easily mastered.   Then some nuances you can pick up to refine your gameplay.

From there, it's mainly just coordinating with others.

 

Mind you, 95% of players don't even bother learning the"nuances you can pick up to refine your gameplay" part, but lets face it, anyone that cares to bother, it isn't hard.

  Brabbit1987

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11/12/13 3:00:02 PM#25
Originally posted by DamonVile
Originally posted by Brabbit1987
 

 

I sometimes think the games didn't get easier .. I just got a hell of a lot better.

On the MMO side of things, I do believe they really have gotten easier because you can clearly see certain older systems removed such as major death penalties. Easier travel methods.

To put it simply, I am the type of player that plays Skyrim with a bunch of hardcore and realism mods to make my time a heck of a lot more difficult. I also don't use fast travel.

Interesting point. It would stand to reason that with practice and familiarity anything should get easier. It's how we work. As to your second bit do you feel those features actually added skill to the game or did they make the game hard through more tedious mechanics. As in it's hard to walk up a hill but it takes no real skill to do it.

Despite what people say. I see not using fast travel adding to a players skill. It's called patience, a skill many gamers seriously lack these days XD. Another thing is you encounter a lot more enemies on your travels. While if you fast travel, you miss out on a lot of the encounters. When using mods such as Frostfall and realistic needs, traveling becomes more about being prepared and survival. Fast traveling makes those mods pointless.

If you want your game hard .. you have to make it hard. When you decide, fast travel is about convenience is when you start sacrificing gameplay just because you are lazy.

 

Now don't get me wrong, I realize no one wants to travel ridiculous amounts of time all the time. However, there are better ways to get around it in a lore friendly manner then by using fast travel. Mounts, carriages, dragons ... so on and so fourth.

 

Try traveling out in a cold wasteland being jumped by 6 bandits while your about to freeze to death. YES ... it is hard. XD Don't even get me started when a dragon decides to show up, keeping in mind I also use a mod called Deadly Dragons that make them much much harder and more like real dragons. All the while playing on Expert difficulty using a mod that increases spawns, so instead of 2 - 3 wolves .. you get packs of them. Instead of the measly 3 bandits .. you get 10 - 15 of them. And having Skyrim Redone installed which increases the NPCs AI and makes it take much longer to level and adds many more perks. It nerfs a lot of skills that are over powered.

 

But yaaaa ... I believe it adds skill. People are just to daft to see that it does. They give poor lame excuses for why things shouldn't take long.

 

If a game isn't challenging, then it isn't worth playing in my opinion. 

  mmoguy43

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11/12/13 3:00:58 PM#26
It really doesn't have anything to do with your skill compared to others or the average player when discussing MMOs being dumbed down. It has to do with your experience of past MMOs making the next game too simple(no learning involved). I've played hundreds of games, most are action/shooter games, and since I've kept up with the general mechanics of shooters I can get to where I can master the game relatively quickly. For MMOs all you need is maybe 3-6 months of experience and you will feel like you have the skill to do really well in any other MMO. Probably a lot less if you are familiar with the other genre half, RPG. I played a lot of Diablo2 before MMOs and so it was really easy to pick them up.
  Ender4

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11/12/13 3:00:59 PM#27


Originally posted by Holophonist

Originally posted by PieRad

Originally posted by Holophonist

Originally posted by PieRad

Originally posted by Holophonist Depends on the genre:   RTS: Top 1% or better FPS: Considerably above average MOBAs: I suck  
I doubt it...
In sc2 I'm typically around top .5%
What is your name in SC2?
Holophonist. I doubt you would've heard of me. I'm not pro or anything.

Made Master 8 times so that is indeed top 2% for US at least :) Good Job.

  Holophonist

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11/12/13 3:05:15 PM#28
Originally posted by Ender4

 


Originally posted by Holophonist

Originally posted by PieRad

Originally posted by Holophonist

Originally posted by PieRad

Originally posted by Holophonist Depends on the genre:   RTS: Top 1% or better FPS: Considerably above average MOBAs: I suck  
I doubt it...
In sc2 I'm typically around top .5%
What is your name in SC2?
Holophonist. I doubt you would've heard of me. I'm not pro or anything.

 

Made Master 8 times so that is indeed top 2% for US at least :) Good Job.

Well based on points I'm usually, like I said, about .5%. Masters globally is about 3.5%.

  PieRad

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Posts: 1169

11/12/13 3:06:37 PM#29
Originally posted by Ender4

 


Originally posted by Holophonist

Originally posted by PieRad

Originally posted by Holophonist

Originally posted by PieRad

Originally posted by Holophonist Depends on the genre:   RTS: Top 1% or better FPS: Considerably above average MOBAs: I suck  
I doubt it...
In sc2 I'm typically around top .5%
What is your name in SC2?
Holophonist. I doubt you would've heard of me. I'm not pro or anything.

 

Made Master 8 times so that is indeed top 2% for US at least :) Good Job.

Ye, that is pretty good... go get gm and make some money!

  Anthur

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Posts: 683

11/12/13 3:16:45 PM#30

Problem is not the player skills. It didn't really change over time regardless how people judge their skills. Problem with MMOs is that 99 % of the content is easy peasy. A brain dead monkey can master it. And next to 100 % or even 100 % is without any risk at all. There is that 1 % of challenging content (usually at endgame in level based games). But to get there you have play through the other 99 % first.

Why not have challenging content right from the start ? Because people will be discouraged ? Are we really all little whiny girls ? (no offense intended against girls here)

I am exagerating a little bit concerning the percentage values But I think you get my point.

  monochrome19

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11/12/13 3:24:36 PM#31
This question cant really be judged accurately unless you specify a specific genre or game.
  Lienhart

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11/12/13 3:30:15 PM#32
Originally posted by monochrome19
This question cant really be judged accurately unless you specify a specific genre or game.

Wrong.

Most ppl who play games regularly are above average in comparision to the entire population or average compared to other gamers. These same ppl will pick up on new games much quicker than others who do not play video games on a regular basis. When you break it into genres, then you start getting into the e-sport realm of things and MMORPGs, generally, are not e-sports. 

  Foomerang

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11/12/13 3:31:32 PM#33

How does this work? If you are good at something that is seen as easy, does that make you skilled? And lol at the folks that are placing themselves in some sort of % bracket.

  Atlys

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Posts: 69

11/12/13 3:38:20 PM#34

I'm not the greatest at video games. I guess I am better than the people who suck, but not at the level of a good player. I can't get my mind to grasp complicated mechanics or even such things as gear stats. I see the flood of numbers, and just lose all focus. If I didn't have tool-tips with green arrows saying "this gear is 6 higher block" than I would be out of luck.

FPS I can be pretty good at, but I get excited too easily and start to make mistakes or get jittery. RTS I am maybe one of the worst players in the universe. My friends tried to teach me Starcraft 2 and after 5 games I was able to get an army of mutalisks together and just charge them at the enemies base, and this was like 45 mins into a teaching game. I'm not good at management.

MOBA I get nervous that I am doing poorly whenever I am playing team-based games so I tend to avoid MOBAs. Sometimes I will hop into LoL when I am REALLY bored and play bot games. I don't really die, but my item selection is pretty much whatever sounds cool and if I'm not pushing bottom, I am completely lost.

So I answered below average. Maybe I push average, but it's hard to judge myself. You tend to be either better or worse than you think you are.

On the eternal quest for that one perfect MMO.

  maplestone

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11/12/13 4:08:34 PM#35

Probably below average given that I don't tend to seek out competition.

  Icewhite

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Pink, it's like red but not quite.

11/12/13 4:22:09 PM#36

So 80% + at average and up. Confirming that gamers always overestimate themselves.

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  maplestone

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11/12/13 4:30:37 PM#37

Ray, when someone asks you if you're a god, you say "Yes!"

  Foomerang

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11/12/13 4:37:08 PM#38

oh god here we go. first comes the ghostbuster quotes, then its holy grail, next thing you know we are tit for tatting dos prompts....

  tommygunzII

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11/12/13 4:42:51 PM#39

I voted for above average. Even though I usually feel that I am the best in most situations, there are a few people I have come across that you would swear was a robot behind the screen because of how cool under pressure they are, or seem to be.

 

My best genre has to be racing simulators. I do feel like I am a top 1% there.

  monochrome19

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11/12/13 4:45:05 PM#40
Originally posted by Lienhart
Originally posted by monochrome19
This question cant really be judged accurately unless you specify a specific genre or game.

Wrong.

Most ppl who play games regularly are above average in comparision to the entire population or average compared to other gamers. These same ppl will pick up on new games much quicker than others who do not play video games on a regular basis. When you break it into genres, then you start getting into the e-sport realm of things and MMORPGs, generally, are not e-sports. 

This logic is so asinine I'm not even going to argue with it...

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