Trending Games | ArcheAge | Guild Wars 2 | Destiny | World of Warcraft

  Network:  FPSguru RTSguru
Login:  Password:   Remember?  
Show Quick Gamelist Jump to Random Game
Members:2,856,396 Users Online:0
Games:740  Posts:6,239,731
Recent forum postsRSS
Active threads
Cloud view
List all forums
General Forums
Developers Corner General Discussion
Popular Game Forums
Click a status to find game forum
Game Forums
Click a letter to find game forum
A-C
2029 Online 2112: Revolution 2Moons 4Story 8BitMMO 9 Dragons A Mystical Land A Tale in the Desert III A3 ACE Online ARGO Online Aberoth Absolute Force Online Absolute Terror Achaea Adellion Aerrevan Aetolia, the Midnight Age Age of Armor Age of Conan Age of Empires Online Age of Mourning Age of Wulin Age of Wushu Aida Arenas Aika Aion Albion Online Alganon All Points Bulletin (APB) Allods Online Altis Gates Amazing World Anarchy Online Ancients of Fasaria Andromeda 5 Angels Online Angry Birds Epic Anime Trumps Anmynor Anno Online Applo Arcane Hearts Arcane Legends ArchLord ArcheAge Archeblade Archlord X Ascend: Hand of Kul Asda 2 Asda Story Ashen Empires Asheron's Call Asheron's Call 2 Astera Online Astonia III Astro Empires Astro Lords: Oort CLoud Asura Force Atlantica Online Atriarch Aura Kingdom Aurora Blade Auto Assault Avatar Star Battle Dawn Battle Dawn Galaxies Battle for Graxia Battle of 3 Kingdoms Battle of the Immortals Battlecruiser Online Battlestar Galactica Online Battlestar Reloaded Beyond Protocol Black Aftermath Black Desert Black Gold Black Prophecy Black Prophecy Tactics: Nexus Conflict Blacklight Retribution Blade & Soul Blade Hunter Blade Wars Blazing Throne Bless Blitz 1941 Blood and Jade Bloodlines Champions Boot Hill Heroes Borderlands 2 Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel Bound by Flame Bounty Bay Online Brain Storm Bravada Bravely Default Bravely Second Brawl Busters. Brick-Force Bright Shadow Bullet Run Business Tycoon Online CTRacer Cabal Online Caesary Call of Camelot Call of Gods Call of Thrones Camelot Unchained Canaan Online Cardmon Hero Cartoon Universe CasinoRPG Cast & Conquer Castle Empire Castlot Celtic Heroes Champions Online Champions of Regnum Chaos Online Child of Light Chrono Tales Citadel of Sorcery CitiesXL Citizen Zero City of Decay City of Heroes City of Steam City of Transformers City of Villains Civilization Online Clan Lord Clash of Clans Cloud Nine Club Penguin Colony of War Command & Conquer: Tiberium Alliances Company of Heroes Online Conquer Online Conquer Online 3 Continent of the Ninth (C9) Core Blaze Core Exiles Corum Online Craft of Gods Crimecraft Crimelife 2 Cronous Crota II Crusaders of Solaris Cultures Online Cyber Monster 2 Céiron Wars
D-F
D&D Online DC Universe DK Online DOTA DOTA 2 DUST 514 DV8: Exile Dalethaan Dance Groove Online Dark Age of Camelot Dark Ages Dark Legends Dark Orbit Dark Relic: Prelude Dark Solstice Dark and Light DarkEden Online DarkSpace Darkblood Online Darkest Dungeon Darkfall Darkfall: Unholy Wars Darkwind: War on Wheels Das Tal Dawn of Fantasy Dawntide DayZ Dead Earth Dead Frontier Dead Island Dead Island 2 Dead Island: Riptide Deco Online Deepworld Defiance Deicide Online Dekaron Demons at the Horizon Desert Operations Destiny Diablo 3 Diamonin Digimon Battle Dino Storm Disciple Divergence Divina Divine Souls Divinity: Original Sin Dofus Dominus Online Dragon Age: Inquisition Dragon Ball Online Dragon Born Online Dragon Crusade Dragon Empires Dragon Eternity Dragon Nest Dragon Oath Dragon Pals Dragon Raja Dragon's Call Dragon's Call II Dragon's Prophet DragonSky DragonSoul Dragona Dragonica Dragons and Titans Drakengard 3 Dream of Mirror Online Dreamland Online Dreamlords: The Reawakening Drift City Duels Dungeon Blitz Dungeon Fighter Online Dungeon Overlord Dungeon Party Dungeon Rampage Dungeon Runners Dungeon of the Endless Dynastica Dynasty Warriors Online Dynasty of the Magi EIN (Epicus Incognitus) EVE Online Earth Eternal Earth and Beyond Earthrise Eclipse War Ecol Tactics Online Eden Eternal Edge of Space Einherjar - The Viking's Blood Elder Scrolls Online Eldevin Elf Online Elite: Dangerous Embers of Caerus Emil Chronicle Online Empire Empire & State Empire Craft Empire Universe 3 EmpireQuest Empires of Galldon End of Nations Endless Ages Endless Blue Moon Online Endless Online Entropia Universe EpicDuel Erebus: Travia Reborn Eredan Eternal Blade Eternal Lands Eternal Saga Ether Fields Ether Saga Online Eudemons Online EuroGangster EverEmber Online EverQuest Next EverQuest Online Adventures Evernight Everquest Everquest II Evony Exarch Exorace F.E.A.R. Online Face of Mankind Fairyland Online Fall of Rome Fallen Earth Fallen Sword Fallout Online Family Guy Online Fantage Fantasy Earth Zero Fantasy Realm Online Fantasy Tales Online Fantasy Worlds: Rhynn Faunasphere Faxion Online Fearless Fantasy Ferentus Ferion Fiesta Online Final Fantasy Type-0 HD Final Fantasy XI Final Fantasy XIV Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn Firefall Fists of Fu Florensia Flyff Football Manager Live Football Superstars Force of Arms Forge Forsaken World Fortnite Fortuna Forum for Discussion of Everlight Freaky Creatures Free Realms Freesky Online Freeworld Fung Wan Online Furcadia Fury Fusion Fall
G-L
GalaXseeds Galactic Command Online Game of Thrones: Seven Kingdoms Gameglobe Gate To Heavens Gates of Andaron Gatheryn Gauntlet Gekkeiju Online Ghost Online Ghost Recon Online Gladiatus Glitch Global Agenda Global Soccer Gloria Victis Glory of Gods GoGoRacer Goal Line Blitz Gods and Heroes GodsWar Online Golemizer Golf Star GoonZu Online Graal Kingdoms Granado Espada Online Grand Chase Grand Fantasia Grepolis Grimlands Guild Wars Guild Wars 2 Guild Wars Factions Guild Wars Nightfall H1Z1 Habbo Hotel Hailan Rising HaloSphere2 Haven & Hearth Hawken Heart Forth Alicia Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft Helbreath Hellgate Hellgate: London Hello Kitty Online Hero Online Hero Zero Hero's Journey Hero: 108 Online HeroSmash Heroes & Generals Heroes & Legends: Conquerors of Kolhar Heroes in the Sky Heroes of Bestia Heroes of Gaia Heroes of Might and Magic Online Heroes of Thessalonica Heroes of Three Kingdoms Heroes of the Storm Hex Holic Online Hostile Space Hunter Blade Huxley Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition Illutia Illyriad Immortals USA Imperator Imperian Inferno Legend Infestation: Survivor Stories Infinite Crisis Infinity Infinity Iris Online Iron Grip: Marauders Irth Worlds Island Forge Islands of War Istaria: Chronicles of the Gifted Jade Dynasty Jagged Alliance Online Juggernaut Jumpgate Jumpgate Evolution KAL Online Kakele Online Kaos War Karos Online Kartuga Kicks Online King of Kings 3 Kingdom Heroes Kingdom Under Fire II Kingdom of Drakkar Kingory Kings and Legends Kings of the Realm KingsRoad Kitsu Saga Kiwarriors Knight Age Knight Online Knights of Dream City Kothuria Kung Foo! Kunlun Online L.A.W. LEGO Universe La Tale Land of Chaos Online Landmark Lands of Hope: Phoenix Edition LastChaos League of Angels League of Legends - Clash of Fates Legend of Edda: Vengeance Legend of Golden Plume Legend of Katha Legend of Mir 2 Legend of Mir 3 Legendary Champions Lego Minifigures Online Lichdom: Battlemage Life is Feudal Light of Nova Lime Odyssey Line of Defense Lineage Lineage Eternal: Twilight Resistance Lineage II Linkrealms Loong Online Lord of the Rings Online Lords Online Lords of the Fallen Lost Saga Lucent Heart Lunia Lusternia: Age of Ascension Luvinia World
M-Q
MU Online Mabinogi Maestia: Rise of Keledus MagiKnights Magic Barrage Magic World Online Manga Fighter MapleStory Martial Heroes Marvel Heroes Marvel Super Hero Squad Online Marvel: Avengers Alliance MechWarrior Online Megaten Meridian 59 : Evolution Merlin MetalMercs Metaplace Metin 2 MicroVolts Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor Midkemia Online Might & Magic Heroes: Kingdoms MilMo Minecraft Mini Fighter Minions of Mirth Ministry of War Monato Esprit Monkey King Online Monkey Quest Monster & Me Monster Madness Online MonsterMMORPG Moonlight Online: Tales of Eternal Blood Moonrise Mordavia Mortal Online Mourning My Lands Myst Online: URU Live Myth Angels Online Myth War Myth War 2 Mytheon Mythic Saga Mythos N.E.O Online NIDA Online Nadirim Naviage: The Power of Capital Navy Field Need for Speed World Nemexia Neo's Land NeoSteam Neocron Nether Neverwinter Nexus: The Kingdom Of The Winds NinjaTrick NosTale Novus Aeterno Oberin Odin Quest Odyssey RPG Ogre Island Omerta 3 Online Boxing Manager Onverse Order & Chaos Online Order of Magic Original Blood Origins Return Origins of Malu Orion's Belt Otherland Forums OverSoul Overkings Oz Online Oz World Pandora Saga Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen Panzar Parabellum Parallel Kingdom Parfait Station Path of Exile Pathfinder Online Perfect World Perpetuum Online Persona V Phantasy Star Online 2 Phantasy Star Universe Phoenix Dynasty Online Phylon Pi Story Picaroon Pirate Galaxy Pirate Storm Pirate101 PirateKing Online Pirates of the Burning Sea Pirates of the Caribbean Online Pixie Hollow Planeshift Planet Arkadia Planet Calypso PlanetSide 2 Planetside Planets³ Playboy Manager Pocket Legends Pockie Ninja Pockie Pirates Pockie Saints PoxNora Prime World Prime: Battle for Dominus Priston Tale Priston Tale II Prius Online Project Blackout Project Powder Project Titan Forums Project Wiki Project Zomboid Puzzle Pirates Quest for Infamy Quickhit Football
R-S
R2 Online RAN Online RF Online ROSE Online Rage of 3 Kingdoms Ragnarok Online Ragnarok Online II RaiderZ Rakion Rappelz RappelzSEA Ravenmarch Realm Fighter Realm of the Mad God Realm of the Titans Realms Online Reclamation Red Stone Red War: Edem's Curse Regnum Online Remnant Knights Renaissance Repulse Requiem: Memento Mori Rift RiotZone Rise Rise of Dragonian Era Rise of Empire Rise of the Tycoon Risen 3: Titan Lords Rising of King Risk Your Life Rivality Rockfree Rohan: Blood Feud Role Play Worlds Roll n Rock Roma Victor Romadoria Rosh Online Roto X Rubies of Eventide Ruin Online Rumble Fighter Runes of Magic Runescape Rust Rusty Hearts Ryzom S4 League SAGA SD Gundam Capsule Fighter Online SMITE SUN Sacred 3 Sagramore Salem SaySayGirls Scarlet Blade Scions of Fate Seal Online: Evolution Second Chance Heroes Second Life Secret of the Solstice Seed Serenia Fantasy Seven Seas Saga Seven Souls Online Sevencore Shadow Realms Shadow of Legend Shadowbane Shadowrun Online Shaiya Shards Online Shattered Galaxy Sho Online Shot Online Shroud of the Avatar SideQuest Siege on Stars Sigonyth: Desert Eternity Silkroad Online Skyblade Skyforge SmashMuck Champions Smoo Online Soldier Front Soul Master Soul Order Online Soul of Guardian Space Heroes Universe Sparta: War of Empires Spellcasters Sphere Spiral Knights Spirit Tales Splash Fighters Squad Wars Star Citizen Star Sonata 2 Star Stable Star Supremacy Star Trek Online Star Trek: Infinite Space Star Wars Galaxies Star Wars: Clone Wars Adventures Star Wars: The Old Republic StarQuest Online Stargate Worlds Starlight Story Starpires State of Decay SteelWar Online Stone Age 2 Stormfall: Age of War Storybricks Stronghold Kingdoms Styx: Master of Shadows Sudden Attack Supremacy 1914 Supreme Destiny Sword Girls Sword of Destiny: Rise of Aions SwordX Swords of Heavens Swordsman
T-Z
TERA TS Online Tabula Rasa Tactica Online Tales Runner Tales of Fantasy Tales of Pirates Tales of Pirates II Tales of Solaris Talisman Online Tamer Saga Tank Ace Tantra Online Tatsumaki: Land at War Terra Militaris TerraWorld Online Thang Online The 4th Coming The Agency The Aurora World The Banner Saga The Black Watchmen The Chronicle The Chronicles of Spellborn The Crew The Division The Hammers End The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing 2 The Legend of Ares The Lost Titans The Matrix Online The Mighty Quest for Epic Loot The Missing Ink The Mummy Online The Myth of Soma The Pride of Taern The Realm Online The Repopulation The Secret World The Sims Online The Strategems The West The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt Theralon There Therian Saga Thrones of Chaos Tibia Tibia Micro Edition Tiger Knight Titan Siege Titans of Time Toontown Online Top Speed Topia Online Torchlight Total Domination Transformers Universe Transistor Traveller AR Travia Online Travian Trials of Ascension Tribal Hero Tribal Wars Tribes Universe Trickster Online Trove Troy Online True Fantasy Live Online Turf Battles Twelve Sky Twelve Sky 2 Twilight War Tynon U.B. Funkeys UFO Online URDEAD Online Ultima Forever: Quest for the Avatar Ultima Online Ultima X: Odyssey Ultimate Naruto Ultimate Soccer Boss Uncharted Waters Online Undercover 2: Merc Wars Underlight Unification Wars Universe Online Utopia Valkyrie Sky Vampire Lord Online Vanguard: Saga of Heroes Vanquish Space Vector City Racers Vendetta Online Victory - Age of Racing Vindictus Virtonomics Vis Gladius Visions of Zosimos VoidExpanse Voyage Century Online W.E.L.L. Online WAR (Warhammer Online) WAR2 Glory WYD Global Wakfu War Thunder War of 2012 War of Angels War of Legends War of Mercenaries War of Thrones War of the Immortals WarFlow Waren Story Wargame1942 Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade Warhammer 40K: Dark Millennium Online Warhammer Online: Wrath of Heroes Warkeepers Warrior Epic Wartune Wasteland 2 WebLords Wild West Online WildStar Wind of Luck WindSlayer 2 Wings of Destiny Wish Wizard101 Wizardry Online Wizards and Champions Wonder King Wonderland Online World Golf Tour World of Battles World of Darkness World of Heroes World of Kung Fu World of Pirates World of Speed World of Tanks World of Tanks Generals World of Warcraft World of Warplanes World of Warships World of the Living Dead WorldAlpha Wurm Online Xenoblade Chronicles: X Xenocell Xiah Xsyon Xulu YS Online Yitien ZU Online Zentia Zero Online Zero Online: The Andromeda Crisis Zodiac Online Zombies Ate My Pizza eRepublik

MMORPG.com Discussion Forums

Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn

Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn 

General Discussion  » New hack, players being forced to spend millions on Market Board

2 Pages 1 2 » Search
22 posts found
  fascism

Apprentice Member

Joined: 4/05/12
Posts: 360

 
OP  11/08/13 1:00:40 AM#1
  Abimor

Hard Core Member

Joined: 5/09/05
Posts: 279

11/08/13 1:08:42 AM#2
Wow read all those posts that is crazy hope they can fix this fast.
  Raven322

Advanced Member

Joined: 2/04/12
Posts: 43

11/08/13 5:43:10 AM#3
[mod edit]
  killahh

Novice Member

Joined: 8/25/04
Posts: 455

As famous as the unknown soldier

11/08/13 6:00:27 AM#4
Will be in intresting to see the fallout for I'm this

Gonada Dahung,over 20 years of mmorpg's and counting....Please Lord, let someone make a game that had all the awesomeness of UO, EQ and EVE...

  Dragonsfire9

Novice Member

Joined: 5/01/08
Posts: 13

11/08/13 6:13:40 AM#5

Supposedly it is patched already, and game is back up.  It was fast action on SE's part.  Hopefully it is really fixed and they don't have to do a general rollback.

 

 

  User Deleted
11/08/13 8:43:25 AM#6

man that suuuuucks. bunch of rmt jerks just cant stop messing with a stupid video game.

  Ender4

Hard Core Member

Joined: 5/18/08
Posts: 2094

11/08/13 8:47:31 AM#7

Its kind of funny when this stuff happens because it seems so obvious that it is going to get you banned. I have to imagine they keep logs of transactions and can fix this and ban those who did it. If they don't then well that is a poorly made market system~.

  bcbully

Elite Member

Joined: 3/03/12
Posts: 7238

11/08/13 9:02:32 AM#8

Geeez. The game is under attack. Scary stuff when you think about the future if mmorpgs. 

 

My question is what happened between the launch and the relaunch clients with respect to secure code? 

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  SpottyGekko

Elite Member

Joined: 9/26/04
Posts: 2906

11/08/13 9:38:52 AM#9
Originally posted by bcbully

Geeez. The game is under attack. Scary stuff when you think about the future if mmorpgs. 

 

My question is what happened between the launch and the relaunch clients with respect to secure code? 

Most likely nothing changed in the code. However, the game relaunched and attracted a large number of new players.

 

It seems that "large number of new players" = "large amount of RMT customers" in modern MMO's. So the RMT hackers hit FFXIV hard and fast to get the maximum sales while the game is new and has heaps of players that want to reach level-cap "as fast as possible at any cost".

 

No doubt many RMT specialists have had plenty of opportunity to practice and refine their skills and techniques on the 100's of F2P MMO's that have sprung up in the last few years.

So any new MMO that launches can now be targeted on multiple fronts:

  • target lax player security to steal login info and accounts
  • target lax server security to steal credit card and/or account info
  • target game code vulnerabilities to dupe currency/items
  • target network vulnerabilities to change packet data
  • target absent game controls to run botting scripts to farm resources for sale on the AH

 

The efforts of these criminals are becoming more sophisticated as their experience and knowledge increases. Most gamers know that gaming generates huge chunks of revenue. Criminals know this too. They also know that they can operate with almost complete impunity. The worst thing that can happen to them is that they don't make any money for their efforts. Punishment for getting caught ? ROFLMAO...

  AmbrosiaAmor

Elite Member

Joined: 11/24/10
Posts: 821

11/08/13 9:46:56 AM#10
Amazing... RMT 1-UPs Square Enix yet again. It seems some transactions took less than a few minutes being around the Bell of Doom™.

  Torvaldr

Elite Member

Joined: 6/10/09
Posts: 5760

11/08/13 10:15:36 AM#11
Originally posted by Foomerang

man that suuuuucks. bunch of rmt jerks just cant stop messing with a stupid video game.

Yes it does. I find it particularly frustrating and it happens in so many games now. The Astral Diamond debacle in Neverwinter was caused by the same sort of people who are looking to cash in, or just ruin another player's experience.

SpottyGekko is probably right in that new launches now are going to have to face this sort of thing. So not only will they have to deal with all the traditional launch issues, but they will have to deal with this new layer of crap.

I think SE wasn't quite prepared. FFXI launched "back in the day" so it's not like they had recent experience to prepare them for what to expect. It seems to be a fairly new phenomenon. We didn't see this sort of thing when Rift launched.

Curse you AquaScum!

  User Deleted
11/08/13 10:30:48 AM#12


Originally posted by Torvaldr

Originally posted by Foomerang man that suuuuucks. bunch of rmt jerks just cant stop messing with a stupid video game.
Yes it does. I find it particularly frustrating and it happens in so many games now. The Astral Diamond debacle in Neverwinter was caused by the same sort of people who are looking to cash in, or just ruin another player's experience.

SpottyGekko is probably right in that new launches now are going to have to face this sort of thing. So not only will they have to deal with all the traditional launch issues, but they will have to deal with this new layer of crap.

I think SE wasn't quite prepared. FFXI launched "back in the day" so it's not like they had recent experience to prepare them for what to expect. It seems to be a fairly new phenomenon. We didn't see this sort of thing when Rift launched.


Yeah it sucks because it hurts both the gamers and developers. People are less inclined to try a new game if they feel like their personal info is not secure. Im not sure what the pattern is. Maybe its too much info being stored client side that allows hackers more freedom to do different things.

  Ikeda

Hard Core Member

Joined: 10/07/10
Posts: 1979

11/08/13 10:33:08 AM#13

Why should I try ANY new MMO anymore with these kinds of launches?  This is why most people wait 2-3 months...

But a game can't be sustained for a long time without those subs.  So it's a double edged sword.  

That anyone would think this is acceptable is just... beyond me.

SWTOR: F2P or Premium? Want Galactic Strongholds early? http://www.swtor.com/r/LbMdN7 Use the referral for 7 days of subscriber access. Unlock your GS today!

  User Deleted
11/08/13 10:38:37 AM#14


Originally posted by Ikeda
Why should I try ANY new MMO anymore with these kinds of launches?  This is why most people wait 2-3 months...

But a game can't be sustained for a long time without those subs.  So it's a double edged sword.  

That anyone would think this is acceptable is just... beyond me.


Maybe this is a result of beta tests not really being beta tests anymore and more about marketing and securing pre-orders. I know it can't be all that simple but it could be part of the problem. But you'd think if they had more rigorous testing some of these game breaking hacks could have been spotted.

  SpottyGekko

Elite Member

Joined: 9/26/04
Posts: 2906

11/08/13 10:54:30 AM#15
Originally posted by Foomerang

 


Originally posted by Ikeda
Why should I try ANY new MMO anymore with these kinds of launches?  This is why most people wait 2-3 months...

 

But a game can't be sustained for a long time without those subs.  So it's a double edged sword.  

That anyone would think this is acceptable is just... beyond me.


 

Maybe this is a result of beta tests not really being beta tests anymore and more about marketing and securing pre-orders. I know it can't be all that simple but it could be part of the problem. But you'd think if they had more rigorous testing some of these game breaking hacks could have been spotted.

More testing takes more time, delaying launch AND costing the developer more money.

More secure code and systems take more time to design, build and test, delaying launch AND costing the developer more money.

More security routines and encryption in the game code adds overheads and server load, which could have negative effects on game performance.

There's very little a developer can do to change player online-security habits, short of forcing them to use authenticators. But authenticators sometimes go wrong, so there has to be robust Customer Service to deal with those issues. Again driving up costs for the developer.

 

Ironically, it all comes down to money in the end. If the game developer can secure the game AND still make a decent profit AND not ruin the game play experience in the process, then that will be done. But it will most likely only happen once RMT activities render a few MMO's unplayable.

 

  User Deleted
11/08/13 1:13:11 PM#16


Originally posted by SpottyGekko

Originally posted by Foomerang  

Originally posted by Ikeda Why should I try ANY new MMO anymore with these kinds of launches?  This is why most people wait 2-3 months...   But a game can't be sustained for a long time without those subs.  So it's a double edged sword.   That anyone would think this is acceptable is just... beyond me.
  Maybe this is a result of beta tests not really being beta tests anymore and more about marketing and securing pre-orders. I know it can't be all that simple but it could be part of the problem. But you'd think if they had more rigorous testing some of these game breaking hacks could have been spotted.
More testing takes more time, delaying launch AND costing the developer more money.

More secure code and systems take more time to design, build and test, delaying launch AND costing the developer more money.

More security routines and encryption in the game code adds overheads and server load, which could have negative effects on game performance.

There's very little a developer can do to change player online-security habits, short of forcing them to use authenticators. But authenticators sometimes go wrong, so there has to be robust Customer Service to deal with those issues. Again driving up costs for the developer.

 

Ironically, it all comes down to money in the end. If the game developer can secure the game AND still make a decent profit AND not ruin the game play experience in the process, then that will be done. But it will most likely only happen once RMT activities render a few MMO's unplayable.

 


Pretty much. Its just unfortunate. All I wanna do is be able to play an mmo without a bunch of drama heh.

  BadOrb

Advanced Member

Joined: 1/11/13
Posts: 745

11/08/13 1:20:04 PM#17
Originally posted by Foomerang

 


Originally posted by SpottyGekko

Originally posted by Foomerang  

Originally posted by Ikeda Why should I try ANY new MMO anymore with these kinds of launches?  This is why most people wait 2-3 months...   But a game can't be sustained for a long time without those subs.  So it's a double edged sword.   That anyone would think this is acceptable is just... beyond me.
  Maybe this is a result of beta tests not really being beta tests anymore and more about marketing and securing pre-orders. I know it can't be all that simple but it could be part of the problem. But you'd think if they had more rigorous testing some of these game breaking hacks could have been spotted.
More testing takes more time, delaying launch AND costing the developer more money.

 

More secure code and systems take more time to design, build and test, delaying launch AND costing the developer more money.

More security routines and encryption in the game code adds overheads and server load, which could have negative effects on game performance.

There's very little a developer can do to change player online-security habits, short of forcing them to use authenticators. But authenticators sometimes go wrong, so there has to be robust Customer Service to deal with those issues. Again driving up costs for the developer.

 

Ironically, it all comes down to money in the end. If the game developer can secure the game AND still make a decent profit AND not ruin the game play experience in the process, then that will be done. But it will most likely only happen once RMT activities render a few MMO's unplayable.

 


 

Pretty much. Its just unfortunate. All I wanna do is be able to play an mmo without a bunch of drama heh.

Well maybe they shouldn't spend lots of cash making an MMO that they then cancel ? Might help them , work out their finances in the long run. What game do I mean I hear you cry ? The Agency by SOE , stupid Sony. Plus they lost a PS3 sale to , from me that is.

Cheers,

BadOrb

PSO 4 years , EQOA 4 months , PSU 7 years , SWTOR launch ongoing.
"SWG was not fun. Let it go buddy." quote from iiNoSkillzii 10/18/13
The original propoganda pixie dust villain :[]

  teknotaz

Novice Member

Joined: 11/14/07
Posts: 112

Play hard and die playing.

11/08/13 2:42:06 PM#18
everyone should know by now this is the government trying to spread the wealth with everyone.

  Grahor

Apprentice Member

Joined: 5/08/11
Posts: 854

11/09/13 4:20:22 AM#19

I wonder if an automatic system can be build to make people who are above certain level of riches to buy things not for millions, but for, say, 20k or so gils. It would be hellishly hard to track it down, and lots of people "donating" 20k every visit to market would still bring a pretty penny in the long run.

 

Well, I know that it can be built, it's not that hard with utter lack of security FF and other modern games (PS2 for example) have; I just wonder if it would be worth it. If there is a demand for gils on the real money market.

  Hyanmen

Elite Member

Joined: 10/11/06
Posts: 4983

11/09/13 4:28:15 AM#20
Originally posted by Ikeda

Why should I try ANY new MMO anymore with these kinds of launches?  This is why most people wait 2-3 months...

But a game can't be sustained for a long time without those subs.  So it's a double edged sword.  

That anyone would think this is acceptable is just... beyond me.

This is unacceptable but if you think the consequences can be seen in-game you're mistaken. It's business as usual and has been whole this time even with other security issues around.

I don't think it matters whether you join at launch or 3 months in, if the developer isn't going to support the game in the long-term then the dev deserves to fail in my opinion.

FF:ARR FATE grinding: People not having fun by doing something not actually intended to get to a point that doesn't really matter as fast as possible. Just so they can do the same thing over and over again to gain a piece of virtual loot.

2 Pages 1 2 » Search