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Darkfall: Unholy Wars

Darkfall: Unholy Wars 

General Discussion  » Do not buy this game [mod edit]

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  olepi

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Joined: 1/15/07
Posts: 1075

11/02/13 4:46:54 PM#21

There is a simple rule that avoids all these problems: Never buy a game that you haven't tried, and already know you will like.

Corollaries: never "pre-order" a game that you haven't had a chance to play. Never listen to what marketing says about the future.

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RIP City of Heroes. One of my favorite MMO's.

  Hancakes

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Joined: 2/06/11
Posts: 1106

11/02/13 8:44:58 PM#22
Originally posted by olepi

There is a simple rule that avoids all these problems: Never buy a game that you haven't tried, and already know you will like.

Corollaries: never "pre-order" a game that you haven't had a chance to play. Never listen to what marketing says about the future.

There's a reason DFUW doesn't offer a trial and had a pay to beta. 

  Caaahl

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Joined: 5/19/05
Posts: 241

 
OP  11/03/13 5:56:55 AM#23
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by olepi

There is a simple rule that avoids all these problems: Never buy a game that you haven't tried, and already know you will like.

Corollaries: never "pre-order" a game that you haven't had a chance to play. Never listen to what marketing says about the future.

There's a reason DFUW doesn't offer a trial and had a pay to beta. 

Whereupon the first weeks of playing DFUW could be quite fun for new players.

As long as they are not familiar with the original DF and therefore dont realize what amount of content and features are missing in DFUW.

I think they dont offer a trial beacuse of the fear of hackers, tbh.

But at this point it doesnt really matter anymore. DFUW is like a patient in coma and the only question is when to pull the plug.

And as long as people get lured into buying the game the redemption will only get delayed.

Caaahl / DAA KAPUTTMACHAA ---DF/DFUW

  MrBoots

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Joined: 4/07/03
Posts: 285

11/03/13 7:49:49 AM#24
The best result we could get is AV shutting down and another company taking over the development.
  Hancakes

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Posts: 1106

11/03/13 11:44:29 AM#25
Originally posted by MrBoots
The best result we could get is AV shutting down and another company taking over the development.

I doubt InteretQ will continue to fund a money pit , hopefully they'll sell off the rights. 

  Holophonist

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Joined: 2/15/09
Posts: 2050

11/06/13 12:50:08 AM#26
Don't buy this game because they lied or mislead or couldn't live up to promises? How about don't buy the game if you're not satisfied with the game as it exists. Why would a prospective customer care if AV has a history of lies? Buy the game if you'll enjoy playing it right now. I've never understood this community's ability to have their feelings so hurt by a videogame company.
  vieplis666

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Joined: 6/29/12
Posts: 41

11/06/13 1:07:41 AM#27
Bad business model, good to know this crap dying!
  Tibernicuspa

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Joined: 11/03/13
Posts: 1008

11/06/13 1:18:20 AM#28
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by MrBoots
The best result we could get is AV shutting down and another company taking over the development.

I doubt InteretQ will continue to fund a money pit , hopefully they'll sell off the rights. 

If Darkfall was a money pit it would have shut down years ago. It's obviously profitable, or the dev team wouldn't have grown so much. Small companies don't have the luxury of keeping money pits running.

And no one else getting the rights would release Darkfall as anyone likes it. Every publisher that look at it wanted to remove the FFA or add more safe zones, or get rid of looting. Love it or hate it, AV is the only company that can make and run darkfall.

I can't believe there are so many people acting like spoiled children about when updates come and when they don't. If you don't have fun in the game, quit. If not, you don't have to go on a smear campaign spreading lies and propaganda discrediting the ONLY game company that tried to make an MMO that wasn't a WoW clone.

  tom_gore

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Joined: 2/27/09
Posts: 1809

11/06/13 2:58:31 AM#29

I agree that DF is crap, but I think your math is off.

2 accounts for 4 years for 14,95€ per month adds up to 720€, which I wouldn't call "well over thousand".

If you want to call out a company for exaggeration and lies, you should keep to facts yourself.

 

  Hancakes

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Joined: 2/06/11
Posts: 1106

11/06/13 2:58:46 AM#30
Originally posted by Tibernicuspa
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by MrBoots
The best result we could get is AV shutting down and another company taking over the development.

I doubt InteretQ will continue to fund a money pit , hopefully they'll sell off the rights. 

If Darkfall was a money pit it would have shut down years ago. It's obviously profitable, or the dev team wouldn't have grown so much. Small companies don't have the luxury of keeping money pits running.

And no one else getting the rights would release Darkfall as anyone likes it. Every publisher that look at it wanted to remove the FFA or add more safe zones, or get rid of looting. Love it or hate it, AV is the only company that can make and run darkfall.

I can't believe there are so many people acting like spoiled children about when updates come and when they don't. If you don't have fun in the game, quit. If not, you don't have to go on a smear campaign spreading lies and propaganda discrediting the ONLY game company that tried to make an MMO that wasn't a WoW clone.

AV didn't sell of part of the company (soon to be the majority of it) because they were making money.

  Caaahl

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Joined: 5/19/05
Posts: 241

 
OP  11/06/13 10:02:43 AM#31
Originally posted by tom_gore

I agree that DF is crap, but I think your math is off.

2 accounts for 4 years for 14,95€ per month adds up to 720€, which I wouldn't call "well over thousand".

If you want to call out a company for exaggeration and lies, you should keep to facts yourself.

 

2 * 14,95 * 4 * 12 = 1435,20

I'm sorry, math isnt for everybody. Maybe grammar is your strong point.

Caaahl / DAA KAPUTTMACHAA ---DF/DFUW

  Caaahl

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Joined: 5/19/05
Posts: 241

 
OP  11/06/13 10:14:49 AM#32
Originally posted by Tibernicuspa
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by MrBoots
The best result we could get is AV shutting down and another company taking over the development.

I doubt InteretQ will continue to fund a money pit , hopefully they'll sell off the rights. 

If Darkfall was a money pit it would have shut down years ago. It's obviously profitable, or the dev team wouldn't have grown so much. Small companies don't have the luxury of keeping money pits running.

 

You are either delusional or a fanboy spreading lies on purpose.

DF wasnt profitable and DFUW isnt profitable.

- AV had to sell shares of their company to InternetQ (source: AV, InternetQ)

- AV had to rush the release of the game (due to an agreement with InternetQ) and since they hadnt the manpower (read: money) to include all the features they cut a lot and/or postponed it to "soon afte release". This is confirmed by an ex AV employee (Tork Shaw) who gave the same Models/Armors for each Race as an example.

- AV moved out of their then new shiny buidling (source: Tasos Flambouras in an update)

- AV wasnt able to pay all their Devs in the recent months (source: Claus Grovdal, inventer of the original DF)

- AVs subscription numbers are only @ ~ 60% to the point when theyd become profitable (source: Claus Grovdal)

 

There are other things but i stick to the facts with AV employees as source.

Caaahl / DAA KAPUTTMACHAA ---DF/DFUW

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