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General Discussion  » AV is in PANIC mode!

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  kinghussien

Novice Member

Joined: 11/05/07
Posts: 43

 
OP  11/01/13 5:20:05 PM#1

When the captain and crew start to panic, then you really need to start worrying. They are literally deleting every thread and post that is critical of AV or DFUW on any level. People who genuinely want the game to do good are getting branded trolls and suspended/banned for posting opinions that don't sugarcoat or praise AV/DFUW. I was branded a troll because I replied to a MOD and asked him to stop locking/deleting/banning, because it will do much more harm than good. And I was suspended for 30 days. Everybody has to agree with everything AV says or does? Not only agree, but praise them? And DFUW?

 

Long time supporters and fan boys are getting their posts deleted, simply by stating that they are unhappy with what Tasos said today. This has seriously got to stop!

 

AV: You will never be successful or respected by any player when you exhibit such extreme behavior! You have been at this for 12+ years and you still refuse to interact with us as if you were all in this together, rather than this is your game and we are just cattle.

 

I want Darkfall to succeed, but it will not. And not because its Darkfall, but because AV is at the helm.

 

@AV: WAKE THE FUCK UP!

  Kyleran

Bitter Vet™

Joined: 9/13/06
Posts: 19378

Fools find no pleasure in understanding, but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV

11/01/13 5:24:45 PM#2
Er, you are just realizing this now?

Arrogant, Condescending, Dismissive, Elitist, "Meany", you speak as if these are bad things?
Kyleran - Bitter Vet ™ since 2006
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon

  Lahuzer

Advanced Member

Joined: 5/07/09
Posts: 683

Sit on my face and tell me that you love me...

11/01/13 5:33:27 PM#3
Originally posted by Kyleran
Er, you are just realizing this now?

But it is worse then ever now. They deleted shitloads of posts from the thread about their latest (rly lame) update. Peeps saying things like "At least this update saved me 15 bucks" etc. They delete ANYTHING that is itsy bitsy negative. Yeah. They are panicking...

  kinghussien

Novice Member

Joined: 11/05/07
Posts: 43

 
OP  11/01/13 6:14:39 PM#4

One of their long time supporters and community leaders, Signus, posted this earlier:

 

http://imgur.com/KBBUUwu

He mentions the old chat system was garbage and NOT customizable which is an outright lie. I know he played DF1 since beta (2008) to its end ( 2012).

http://blog.michael.gr/2013/06/a-few-samples-of-my-work-on-darkfall.html

http://imgur.com/wjOICL0 -- My reply proving he's lieing.

A blog listing all the interface commands for DF1:  http://darkfallinfo.wikifoundry.com/page/Darkfall+-+Commands+and+Hotkeys

And a blog by the actual designer/developer of the DF1 gui (some interesting framework details in there):

http://blog.michael.gr/2013/06/a-few-samples-of-my-work-on-darkfall.html

 

AV is sinking to new lows!

  IridescentOrk

Novice Member

Joined: 5/27/13
Posts: 160

11/01/13 6:23:55 PM#5
after the first DarkFail, it's not a surprise

gameplay > graphics

  Kyleran

Bitter Vet™

Joined: 9/13/06
Posts: 19378

Fools find no pleasure in understanding, but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV

11/01/13 6:31:40 PM#6
Originally posted by Lahuzer
Originally posted by Kyleran
Er, you are just realizing this now?

But it is worse then ever now. They deleted shitloads of posts from the thread about their latest (rly lame) update. Peeps saying things like "At least this update saved me 15 bucks" etc. They delete ANYTHING that is itsy bitsy negative. Yeah. They are panicking...

OK, they are sinking to new lows.... understandable...wonder why they are so touchy these days?

 

Arrogant, Condescending, Dismissive, Elitist, "Meany", you speak as if these are bad things?
Kyleran - Bitter Vet ™ since 2006
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon

  Maelzrael

Hard Core Member

Joined: 5/15/12
Posts: 317

I like games.

11/01/13 6:36:31 PM#7
I've seen these types of posts about this company a few times now in the last few months. I quit DFUW after the free month as it just didn't hook me at all. 

  syntax42

Hard Core Member

Joined: 3/30/07
Posts: 1184

11/01/13 6:40:40 PM#8

This kind of activity is not much different from what I experienced recently with Firefall.  Companies can get away with it legally because it is their forum, but it tends to lead to backlash from other outlets like this forum.

I think game developers have to let go of their egos and take constructive criticism as well as praise.  Learn from what people don't like and improve the game or you will simply lose customers.

  Mad+Dog

Advanced Member

Joined: 3/02/10
Posts: 671

11/01/13 6:45:31 PM#9
DF1 was epic, DFUW is awful. AV are even worse.

  kinghussien

Novice Member

Joined: 11/05/07
Posts: 43

 
OP  11/01/13 7:37:42 PM#10
Originally posted by syntax42

This kind of activity is not much different from what I experienced recently with Firefall.  Companies can get away with it legally because it is their forum, but it tends to lead to backlash from other outlets like this forum.

I think game developers have to let go of their egos and take constructive criticism as well as praise.  Learn from what people don't like and improve the game or you will simply lose customers.

Agreed. To clarify, I wasn't questioning the legality of their actions. They pay for the servers, they can do whatever they want. But that does not mean players will take it laying down. They will reach out to other gaming forums to voice their (negative) opinions!

  Caaahl

Novice Member

Joined: 5/19/05
Posts: 241

11/01/13 7:39:49 PM#11

They are deleting whole threads one after another, where people are simply discussing Tasos' recent update.

Some forums mods at darkfalls forums have always been just bad at their job but since today its really getting out of hand.

Caaahl / DAA KAPUTTMACHAA ---DF/DFUW

  Caaahl

Novice Member

Joined: 5/19/05
Posts: 241

11/01/13 7:42:53 PM#12

Now this. 

 

"You have been banned for the following reason:

Continued expression of discontent over how the forums are moderated."

 

Good work, AV. Good work.

Caaahl / DAA KAPUTTMACHAA ---DF/DFUW

  Panther2103

Hard Core Member

Joined: 1/09/08
Posts: 2104

11/01/13 7:45:09 PM#13
From what I've heard the AV / Darkfall forums are full of negativity, so I'm sure they are just moderating the posts that go way overboard. There's a reason it's always been referred to as forum fall, and these forums on mmorpg.com have had quite a few darkfall haters / fanboys post that they got banned for stating something on the official forums. I say just avoid the forums, they don't listen to suggestions, they delete negativity, they aren't really doing much to communicate with people, they are known to not release things even close to on time ever, df 2010 turned into df 2012, turned into DF:UW. I wish it was a thriving game, with a huge community of nice people but it isn't.
  User Deleted
11/01/13 7:49:17 PM#14

InternetQ  will shortly be calling the shots at AV and I hope they clean house.

 

I think AV is trying to hide the player dissatisfaction from their new masters.

  kinghussien

Novice Member

Joined: 11/05/07
Posts: 43

 
OP  11/01/13 7:54:57 PM#15
Originally posted by Caaahl

Now this. 

 

"You have been banned for the following reason:

Continued expression of discontent over how the forums are moderated."

 

Good work, AV. Good work.

Dude, you've been a hardcore follower/supporter of DF. This is a fucking slap in the face.

  kinghussien

Novice Member

Joined: 11/05/07
Posts: 43

 
OP  11/01/13 7:55:54 PM#16
Originally posted by ilives

InternetQ  is now calling the shots at AV and I hope they clean house.

 

I think AV is trying to hide the player dissatisfaction from their new masters.

Holy shit I forgot InternetQ invested in them...Oh dear this is bad.

  User Deleted
11/01/13 7:56:50 PM#17
Originally posted by kinghussien
Originally posted by ilives

InternetQ  is now calling the shots at AV and I hope they clean house.

 

I think AV is trying to hide the player dissatisfaction from their new masters.

Holy shit I forgot InternetQ invested in them...Oh dear this is bad.

InternetQs controlling interest in the company goes into effect at the 7 month mark. ( in 2 weeks)

  Caaahl

Novice Member

Joined: 5/19/05
Posts: 241

11/01/13 8:01:21 PM#18

I really hope this is the final nail in the coffin for Aventurine.

They kept on lying years and years and we stupid gamers wanted to believe that they would get their act together.

But it got worse and worse. 

I am feeling bad for the few developers left who dont get paid anymore anyway, as one of them stated (Claus)... but i hope for a rather soon shutdown of Aventurine.

Lying fraudsters need to learn it the hard way. 

Caaahl / DAA KAPUTTMACHAA ---DF/DFUW

  User Deleted
11/01/13 8:05:36 PM#19
Originally posted by Caaahl

I really hope this is the final nail in the coffin for Aventurine.

They kept on lying years and years and we stupid gamers wanted to believe that they would get their act together.

But it got worse and worse. 

I am feeling bad for the few developers left who dont get paid anymore anyway, as one of them stated (Claus)... but i hope for a rather soon shutdown of Aventurine.

Lying fraudsters need to learn it the hard way. 

I think Aventurine and Starvault have been a plague on the genre, but had hopes AV would get it right the second time around.

  Cetra

Apprentice Member

Joined: 3/05/04
Posts: 371

11/01/13 8:08:28 PM#20
AV is a horrible company with bad ethics.
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