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  psiic

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11/01/13 2:50:46 PM#21
Originally posted by asmkm22
Why in the world is this guy important?

 

 

Oh don't want anyone else calling me a troll, for posting 100% FACT, and any so called journalist worth a damn who really wanted to do some FACT checking, investigating, and for once write a REAL story, the stories are out there waiting.

 

Granted being a real journalist is like being a real anything, it takes integrity and hard work, concepts that are so alien to most people these days. 

  Torvaldr

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11/01/13 3:50:15 PM#22
Originally posted by jdnewell
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by jdnewell
Originally posted by Vutar
Originally posted by jdnewell
After Vanguard I doubt many people care what he is doing. The guy has not been relevant in years.

 

GW2 hasn't been relevant in a  year yet you still have it in your signature.

That may be true. However I am not a game developer and no one gives a shit whats in my sig or what games I am playing really.

Brad McQuaid  however is and if he is starting a Kickstarter asking for peoples money then people should pay attention and know his history.

You can be a fan of his and thats fine. After Vanguard just dont expect everyone to be.

There is a difference between cautiously watching and expecting transparency and callously dredging up past mistakes, rudely throwing it in their face, and relegating them to irrelevancy. One is being wise, the other is being a dbag.

Let's watch and expect transparency. For one, it's only fair to the rest of their team. If someone just can't trust them ever again then there isn't a need to sling mud.

If you think me calling him irrelevant and mentioning Vanguard  is slinging mud and being a Dbag then just wait until he launches his KS. That will bring out some real mud slinging.

As far as the relevance comment goes he has pretty much been behind the scenes since VG and all the drama that entailed. That was not a personal attack, just a fact. If you want to get butt hurt at someone questioning his relevance then have at it.

You go ahead and " cautiously watch" and hope for the best. I will take a look when / if it ever releases and judge the product then.

I'm not calling you a dbag at all. Taking random potshots just for the sake of it is sort of dbaggery. There's really no need to go down that road. That's all.

I'm not butthurt. Not sure why you need to keep lashing out. I don't know if I'll even like their concept. I will watch cautiously because it might be interesting, but I'm not going to blindly jump in with two feet and eat it all up just because EQ and VG:SOH gets tossed around. I'm going to watch and see how it works, just like I am with Shroud of the Avatar and Camelot Unchained.

Curse you AquaScum!

  goboygo

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Joined: 10/02/13
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11/01/13 3:59:07 PM#23
Do you think you can make a game that's good enough to not have to be a F2P?
  jdnewell

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Joined: 7/04/06
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11/01/13 4:31:44 PM#24
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by jdnewell
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by jdnewell
Originally posted by Vutar
Originally posted by jdnewell
After Vanguard I doubt many people care what he is doing. The guy has not been relevant in years.

 

GW2 hasn't been relevant in a  year yet you still have it in your signature.

That may be true. However I am not a game developer and no one gives a shit whats in my sig or what games I am playing really.

Brad McQuaid  however is and if he is starting a Kickstarter asking for peoples money then people should pay attention and know his history.

You can be a fan of his and thats fine. After Vanguard just dont expect everyone to be.

There is a difference between cautiously watching and expecting transparency and callously dredging up past mistakes, rudely throwing it in their face, and relegating them to irrelevancy. One is being wise, the other is being a dbag.

Let's watch and expect transparency. For one, it's only fair to the rest of their team. If someone just can't trust them ever again then there isn't a need to sling mud.

If you think me calling him irrelevant and mentioning Vanguard  is slinging mud and being a Dbag then just wait until he launches his KS. That will bring out some real mud slinging.

As far as the relevance comment goes he has pretty much been behind the scenes since VG and all the drama that entailed. That was not a personal attack, just a fact. If you want to get butt hurt at someone questioning his relevance then have at it.

You go ahead and " cautiously watch" and hope for the best. I will take a look when / if it ever releases and judge the product then.

I'm not calling you a dbag at all. Taking random potshots just for the sake of it is sort of dbaggery. There's really no need to go down that road. That's all.

I'm not butthurt. Not sure why you need to keep lashing out. I don't know if I'll even like their concept. I will watch cautiously because it might be interesting, but I'm not going to blindly jump in with two feet and eat it all up just because EQ and VG:SOH gets tossed around. I'm going to watch and see how it works, just like I am with Shroud of the Avatar and Camelot Unchained.

Its all good =)

I was not lashing out, or at least did not intend for it to be read that way.

Maybe it is being a Dbag bringing up VG, maybe not. Either way I think if he plans on doing a KS asking for people to donate then his past performance and record of mishandling a project  should be a consideration. He gets let go. laid off, quits or whatever from SOE recently and all the sudden is asking for public funding for another MMO. His past IS relevant , like it or not.

I was around and followed what happened with VG. Some very shady stuff, especially concerning the people he employed and how that all went down. I just cant understand how that can be disregarded when now he is wanting crowd funding in which he will have even less accountability with the money.

Overall I wish him luck and hope he can do better than last time. Hopefully the guy can make a great game. I am sure he is a competent developer who has some great ideas, but being a project lead is another thing entirely.

 

  Hedeon

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11/01/13 4:42:49 PM#25

am very much intrested in what Mcquaid can bring, but aint holding me breath, nor will I support a KS - have yet to, but would always be happy to be suprised positively.

anyways old news and bring us something "real MMOish" Brad, and I ll support it....anyway the guy got issues, wish somebody would help him to get a grip of himself

  Latronus

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Joined: 1/10/08
Posts: 718

PC is not political correctness, it means Political Cowardice!

11/01/13 4:47:14 PM#26
Originally posted by mechtech256

If anyone here wasn't around during the Vanguard Sage, please hear me out.

 

Be very careful supporting this guy. Once Vanguard failed and the employees of Sigil were fired and started talking, the following was made perfectly clear. McQuaid had poor leadership, limited understanding of what was actually going on in his own dev studio (he didn't know what features were really in or out of his game), was often away from the office, was extremely misleading in both interviews and to publishers (Microsoft dropped the game because of this), and was overall pretty incompetent.

 

If I remember the devs were brought out to a parking lot and fired without warning.

 

The entire diplomacy system was thrown together by an employee at the last moment because it was never even properly prototyped or taken beyond the "vision" stage.

 

I for one will be waiting for this MMO to be released. Get ready for hype and over the top McQuaid "visions" that will never come to fruition.

 

Be warned, seriously.

After the epic fail that was Vanguard, why should we trust him ever again?  I won't.  

  Ziegler

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Joined: 11/01/06
Posts: 146

11/01/13 4:52:24 PM#27

Does Brad feel think that investors will be willing to invest heavily into a drug addict that detroyed the last company he ran?

 

How long has he been clean?

 

Should somebody invest in someone who was part of making a good thing once, and failed at reproducing it again, and is now attempting to recreate it again?

  Pyuk

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Joined: 12/21/05
Posts: 666

11/01/13 4:55:55 PM#28
Originally posted by mechtech256

If anyone here wasn't around during the Vanguard Sage, please hear me out.

 

Be very careful supporting this guy. Once Vanguard failed and the employees of Sigil were fired and started talking, the following was made perfectly clear. McQuaid had poor leadership, limited understanding of what was actually going on in his own dev studio (he didn't know what features were really in or out of his game), was often away from the office, was extremely misleading in both interviews and to publishers (Microsoft dropped the game because of this), and was overall pretty incompetent.

 

If I remember the devs were brought out to a parking lot and fired without warning.

 

The entire diplomacy system was thrown together by an employee at the last moment because it was never even properly prototyped or taken beyond the "vision" stage.

 

I for one will be waiting for this MMO to be released. Get ready for hype and over the top McQuaid "visions" that will never come to fruition.

 

Be warned, seriously.

Pretty much this. Anyone giving money to this guy is seriously living in La-La Land and living their life with their head firmly buried in the sand. The amount of people this guy screwed over can be counted in the proverbial parking lot of what used to be Sigil games.

I make spreadsheets at work - I don't want to make them for the games I play.

  User Deleted
11/01/13 5:01:08 PM#29

I thought VG had some great concepts. Decent crafting, housing, huge exploration, non instanced dungeons, interesting race selection. Id check out a new game like that.

  GrumpyMel2

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Posts: 1828

11/01/13 5:08:56 PM#30

Lets put it this way. If he ends up making a great game that everyone who has played it says is a great game and I get to try it hands on to see it is a great game BEFORE spending any money....sure, that's fine.

However, donating any money to this guys Kickstarter on the PROMISE that he is going to make a great game......yeah that ain't happening.

  azarhal

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Posts: 589

11/01/13 5:17:34 PM#31
Originally posted by Nadia
Originally posted by teddyboy420
This is interesting b/c last I heard Brad was @ SoE again working on the EQ2 and/or EQNext team(s). Wonder what happened there.

http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/09/10/brad-mcquaid-working-on-secret-mmo-since-leaving-soe/

Going by that article, I have the impression that SOE is going to end up "publishing" this MMO (if it ever release). Brad pushed his idea to Smedley who was excited about it.

  qombi

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11/01/13 5:24:06 PM#32

I for one believe Everquest was a masterpiece during the first years until Luclin. I also believe yes Vanguard has performance issues and bugs but those aside it was a fantastic fantasy world. Brad has already reflected on the errors of his way and I am sure learned a lot from that experience.

I for one wish Brad the best and look forward to seeing his future work. The man has a wonderful imagination and is very creative. I think he knows this and where his weaknesses are. We are all not strong at everything. 

  severius

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11/01/13 5:31:24 PM#33

L.O.L.

Fools and their money are easily parted.


  syriinx

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11/01/13 5:44:23 PM#34
Originally posted by azarhal
Originally posted by Nadia
Originally posted by teddyboy420
This is interesting b/c last I heard Brad was @ SoE again working on the EQ2 and/or EQNext team(s). Wonder what happened there.

http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/09/10/brad-mcquaid-working-on-secret-mmo-since-leaving-soe/

Going by that article, I have the impression that SOE is going to end up "publishing" this MMO (if it ever release). Brad pushed his idea to Smedley who was excited about it.

Thats not exactly bad news.   SoE certainly doesnt have the money to support the project, but they have the technical ability to publish it.  This will free up most of the money to go directly into development

  nerovipus32

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11/01/13 5:51:22 PM#35
Seems to me that jeff butler copped none of the blame for vanguard. Teflon butler they should call that guy.
  funyahns

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11/01/13 6:56:29 PM#36
 I thought vanguard had a ton of potential.  Sure it didn't turn out well, but I would take Vanguard as it is over 95% of mmo's on the market today.   If it had been finished it may have been a great game. Sure there are naysayers and I would not blindly throw money at him, but I am definitely interested in a game that he is involved with making.  I am interested in a very difficult open world game where grouping is the best way to experience the game.  Add in a huge world that is difficult to cross without porting and I am very interested.
  Hanthos

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11/01/13 7:08:17 PM#37
Originally posted by funyahns
 I thought vanguard had a ton of potential.  Sure it didn't turn out well, but I would take Vanguard as it is over 95% of mmo's on the market today.   If it had been finished it may have been a great game. Sure there are naysayers and I would not blindly throw money at him, but I am definitely interested in a game that he is involved with making.  I am interested in a very difficult open world game where grouping is the best way to experience the game.  Add in a huge world that is difficult to cross without porting and I am very interested.

I for one right now actually AM taking it over 95% of what's on the market. I hadn't really thought about it until you posted that, but I'm playing a dead game (SWGEmu...) and what is heralded as the worst mmo-launch of all time, Vanguard: SoH. Everything else seems 2 dimensional and lifeless when I try to play them.

I really hope that this new project pans out as he has the creative ability. Just make he stays in front of a keyboard, not a calculator.

  Latronus

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11/01/13 7:31:39 PM#38
Originally posted by syriinx
Originally posted by azarhal
Originally posted by Nadia
Originally posted by teddyboy420
This is interesting b/c last I heard Brad was @ SoE again working on the EQ2 and/or EQNext team(s). Wonder what happened there.

http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/09/10/brad-mcquaid-working-on-secret-mmo-since-leaving-soe/

Going by that article, I have the impression that SOE is going to end up "publishing" this MMO (if it ever release). Brad pushed his idea to Smedley who was excited about it.

Thats not exactly bad news.   SoE certainly doesnt have the money to support the project, but they have the technical ability to publish it.  This will free up most of the money to go directly into development

 Sounds very familiar... Let me see... SOE is "publishing" it.  Next thing you know Vanguard is a failure, SOE buys it, Sigil goes under, people loose jobs and Brad gets hired on by SOE.  I'm sure I'm missing a few things, its been a few years and I've slept since then so I'm sure I am remembering something wrong.  /shrug  BM wont see a dime from me.  I wouldn't hire him to scrub my toilets much less be in charge of developing an MMO again.

I ask myself, how desperate were those willing to work with him again given his lack of success by himself.

  bingbongbros

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11/01/13 7:36:14 PM#39

Big bad Brad was great in the creation of Everquest 1.  But he is the worst person in the world to manage and create his own MMO.  He completely bungled every aspect of Vanguards development and pretty much ran away from the problem after selling the company to SOE.

If he is working on EQ projects I'm behind him 100%, solo work not so much.

Playing: Smite
Played: Nexus:Kingdom of the Winds, Everquest, DAoC, Everquest 2, WoW, Matrix Online, Vangaurd, SWG, DDO, EVE, Fallen Earth, LoTRo, CoX, Champions Online, WAR, Darkfall, Mortal Online, Guild Wars, Rift, Tera, Aion, AoC, Gods and Heroes, DCUO, FF14, TSW, SWTOR, GW2, Wildstar, ESO, ArcheAge
Waiting On: Nothing really, though Black Desert looks pretty amazing so far.

  Arglebargle

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11/01/13 7:39:16 PM#40
Talk about the ghost of Vanguard past coming back to bite you on the butt.....

If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.

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