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  orionblack

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10/31/13 8:45:03 AM#21
Ummm I think I will still be using my ps4 as I used my ps3...mostly to play games only. I do use my ps3 to watch blue rays, but  for music....my pc is a great juke box. XD
  BelegStrongbow

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10/31/13 8:51:47 AM#22

There is a mass confusion going on with the industry right now.  Devs dont know where to jump ship or what ship to board.  

 

Steam is throwing a monkey wrench in with this steam box and controller.  

 

Consoles dont know whether to go digital or focus on blue ray discs.  Windows 8 sucks for gaming.  

Apple is dominating the mobile market. 

 

Ps4 cant play mp3?  Really?  Who cares.  I preordered one,  if it works the same as my Ps3 but WAY faster and no crazy long updates or loading times..  The console market will thrive again.

  goldtoof

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10/31/13 8:59:49 AM#23
Google is dominating the mobile market, Apple are thriving though, but in 2nd place.
  doorb7

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10/31/13 9:06:21 AM#24
Originally posted by Ender4

There is no tangible reason to pick one over the other is the real answer here. They each have their own good and bad and the one you pick is nothing but a personal choice. Anyone who says otherwise is just being a complete fool.

 This is completely wrong as whilst there are subjective reasons as to which console somebody would choose, i.e. which exclusives they prefer, there are also objective reasons why one is better than the other, which has nothing to do with personal choice. It has been known for a while now that the ps4 is the more powerful console, and if your a console gamer looking to play multi platform games then ps4 is obviously the better choice from an objective point of view and is already proving (cod, bf4) to have the superior versions. This does not mean that there will not be people who still choose Xbox one over ps4 for subjective reasons such as where their friends are etc.

  zellmer

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10/31/13 9:09:48 AM#25

So?

There's like 290384398 things that play mp3's now a days, and I have a PC, laptop, droid, and tablet..

 

  ThomasN7

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"Had to be me. Someone else might have gotten it wrong.” - Mordin Solus

10/31/13 9:15:23 AM#26
Originally posted by ElRenmazuo

This threads subject is pathetic, im mainly a PC gamer but anyone with common sense can see the flaws of the Xbox One are worse than the flaws of the PS4 and the PS4 has less flaws too.  I dont think I know anyone that owns a console that uses it to listen to music.  When it comes to consoles most people are concerned about gaming related issues which the Xbox One has more of such as the 720p thing and only be able to up-scale to 1080p instead of having native support.  This thread is just a pathetic attempt to say something negative about PS4 from a desperate xbox fan who cant take all the heat the Xbox One has been getting since its announcement.

When I saw battlefield 4s graphics comparisons, PS4 version had close PCs max graphics but the Xbox One was just terrible looking, no anti-aliasing or HBAO. http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/10/28/battlefield-4-xbox-oneps4-graphics-comparison

Well your Sony fanboism is showing too much here.  The fact of the matter is, is that Sony is releasing the bad details about the PS4 at the last minute fully knowing that most people already paid off their pre-orders for the PS4. I think that is rather sneaky and devious of them. People selling their soul for just $100 less is really telling about next generation players.

With Microsoft you knew right from the start what their intentions were with the Xbox One. Yes they changed features but those feature changes were for the better unlike Sony is doing. In all honesty here this whole console war is stupid because it is like voting for the lesser of 2 evils just like a Presidential debate. You can't win either way. Oh yeah and that graphics comparison you linked, you can barely tell the difference between 720p and 1080p between the 2  consoles.

  jdnewell

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10/31/13 9:28:51 AM#27
Not really a big deal to me since I never played MP3s or streamed from my PC on the ps3 I have owned for 5 years. But I can see where if you did use those functions being a little miffed.
  ElRenmazuo

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10/31/13 9:50:08 AM#28

As a gamer in the end the PS4 is still the overall better console especially if your planning on playing mmos on a console.  Destiny will have exclusive content for PS4.  Final Fantasy 14 A Realm Reborn, Planetside 2 and DC Universe will be on PS4.  And it will eventually probably will have Everquest Next since SoE is using the same engine as Planetside 2 and going for an action oriented combat system. It will have other multi-player games like Warframe and Dust.

Its got the better hardware which I would trust more with mmo games performance and graphics.  And the graphics difference which clearly shows on the battlefield 4 comparisons recently.

When it comes to exclusives in general I dont care for the launch day exclusives, I care for which one might have the better exclusives in each consoles life span.  And looking back at the current gens lifespans, PS3 had much more variety and better exclusives with MGS4, The Last of Us, Beyond Two Souls, Uncharted, Demons Souls, God of War 3 and Ascension, Gran Tourismo, Infamous, Journey, Killzone 2-3, Kingdom Hearts HD Remix, Ratchet and Clank, Resistance, Tales of Xillia, Ni No Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch and of course more mmos.

Sony still havent revealed all the PS4 exclusives.  People who are concerned about this mp3 thing are a minority/niche like the people who complain about WoW on this website.  OP you pick the weakest thing to pick on PS4, Xbox One has worse flaws than this which are clearly talked about all over the internet since its announcement.  I dont see you talking about any of those on these forums.

  Incomparable

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10/31/13 9:56:14 AM#29

Unless sony has a good reason, as in it can cause errors by introducing bugs/viruses...but if its a personal decusion and not for a good reason then sony are morons.

You simply do not go against simple trends that add a lot of value when storage is getting cheaper and larger, and games are getting larger as well with huge online updates.

“Write bad things that are done to you in sand, but write the good things that happen to you on a piece of marble”

  adam_nox

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10/31/13 9:58:26 AM#30

Won't affect me, but I can see how some people could be annoyed with any of these limitations. 

 

With how many different computing devices we have, I feel like what we really need eventually is something like iCloud box MS is pushing, but execution is everything.  More or less a central data hub that syncs everything up without us having to do anything and gives us access to all our 'stuff' no matter where we are or what device we are using.

 

PS4 will not be ready for that day, but it could be several years away, so it may not ever become relevant.

  ThomasN7

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10/31/13 9:58:40 AM#31
Originally posted by ElRenmazuo

As a gamer in the end the PS4 is still the overall better console especially if your planning on playing mmos on a console.  Destiny will have exclusive content for PS4.  Final Fantasy 14 A Realm Reborn, Planetside 2 and DC Universe will be on PS4.  And it will eventually probably will have Everquest Next since SoE is using the same engine as Planetside 2 and going for an action oriented combat system. It will have other multi-player games like Warframe and Dust.

Its got the better hardware which I would trust more with mmo games performance and graphics.  And the graphics difference which clearly shows on the battlefield 4 comparisons recently.

When it comes to exclusives in general I dont care for the launch day exclusives, I care for which one might have the better exclusives in each consoles life span.  And looking back at the current gens lifespans, PS3 had much more variety and better exclusives with MGS4, The Last of Us, Beyond Two Souls, Uncharted, Demons Souls, God of War 3 and Ascension, Gran Tourismo, Infamous, Journey, Killzone 2-3, Kingdom Hearts HD Remix, Ratchet and Clank, Resistance, Tales of Xillia, Ni No Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch and of course more mmos.

Sony still havent revealed all the PS4 exclusives.  People who are concerned about this mp3 thing are a minority/niche like the people who complain about WoW on this website.  OP you pick the weakest thing to pick on PS4, Xbox One has worse flaws than this which are clearly talked about all over the internet since its announcement.  I dont see you talking about any of those on these forums.

Games is what matters and right now Sony has got nothing exciting. There is actually no reason to own a PS4 until maybe Naughty Dog releases the next Uncharted and that might be awhile.

  Torvaldr

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10/31/13 9:59:21 AM#32
Originally posted by Incomparable

Unless sony has a good reason, as in it can cause errors by introducing bugs/viruses...but if its a personal decusion and not for a good reason then sony are morons.

You simply do not go against simple trends that add a lot of value when storage is getting cheaper and larger, and games are getting larger as well with huge online updates.

The PS3 already has this functionality and they're removing it in the PS4. It can't be about bugs and viruses. When is the last time you've got a virus from listening to an mp3 or a bug got introduced from streaming a movie?

Curse you AquaScum!

  User Deleted
10/31/13 10:07:08 AM#33

Neither did ps3 when it launched. Those features are all software/firmware updates away. They probably didnt have time to have that stuff ready for launch. Most likely it that stuff will show up in later updates. I don't think any of those features are must have on day one but thats just me.

  Tissmogi

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10/31/13 12:35:02 PM#34

Not surprising at all.

You know that Sony Music Entertainment is currently the second largest music company behind Universal Music Group. Of cause they want to put a lid on this MP3 problem that is eating away their profits. No surprise here, but rest easy, they are struggling as it is and eventually will cave.

  Psion33

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10/31/13 12:38:04 PM#35

Damnit. [Expletive...Expletive.] 

 

I don't want to go with microsoft or microsoft products. But if this is the case, then my PS4 simply can't be my complete home entertainment system like I was really hoping it would be. :(

  travamars

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10/31/13 12:45:48 PM#36

I could care less whether it plays mp3's i've already got ways to play them.

I want a PS4 for one thing.....dont be shocked by this...but its to PLAY GAMES.

If you dont buy a PS4 only because of this then your really not a gamer. Consoles should focus on gaming period.

  Psion33

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10/31/13 12:48:16 PM#37
Originally posted by travamars

I could care less whether it plays mp3's i've already got ways to play them.

I want a PS4 for one thing.....dont be shocked by this...but its to PLAY GAMES.

If you dont buy a PS4 only because of this then your really not a gamer. Consoles should focus on gaming period.

 

I would think external storage would be more meaningful then playing .mp3's.

 

That was my "no-no."

  zevian

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10/31/13 12:58:15 PM#38

Why is Windows 8 bad for games?   I havent had any issue playing any game ive put on it at all.

 

MP3's on the PS4 sure it would be cool, but its something they can patch in down the road ( like proper bluetooth support). You can upgrade the internal hard drive yourself, which will be faster than anything USB and external you could throw on it so thats also a good thing.

 

I think most people using pandora anymore anyway so as long as that function is somehow included most of the masses will be pleased ( DLNA and transferring .MP3's seems to be a mostly techy thing anyway)

  Psion33

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10/31/13 12:59:20 PM#39
Originally posted by zevian

Why is Windows 8 bad for games?   I havent had any issue playing any game ive put on it at all.

 

MP3's on the PS4 sure it would be cool, but its something they can patch in down the road ( like proper bluetooth support). You can upgrade the internal hard drive yourself, which will be faster than anything USB and external you could throw on it so thats also a good thing.

 

I think most people using pandora anymore anyway so as long as that function is somehow included most of the masses will be pleased ( DLNA and transferring .MP3's seems to be a mostly techy thing anyway)

 

We talking like stupid *cough* propietary hard drives or hard drives for normal pc's?

  zevian

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10/31/13 1:06:03 PM#40
Originally posted by Psion33
Originally posted by zevian

Why is Windows 8 bad for games?   I havent had any issue playing any game ive put on it at all.

 

MP3's on the PS4 sure it would be cool, but its something they can patch in down the road ( like proper bluetooth support). You can upgrade the internal hard drive yourself, which will be faster than anything USB and external you could throw on it so thats also a good thing.

 

I think most people using pandora anymore anyway so as long as that function is somehow included most of the masses will be pleased ( DLNA and transferring .MP3's seems to be a mostly techy thing anyway)

 

We talking like stupid *cough* propietary hard drives or hard drives for normal pc's?

Just normal SATA hard drives, no storage limit, 5400 rpm or faster.   it comes with 500gb included,   SO you can buy a SSD and slap it into your ps4 and get super fast load times. just like a pc.    xbone will be limited to transfer speed of USB 2.x ( possibly 3.x in the future)

 

Xbone wont even support external HDD at first ( comes in a later patch  or soon in industry terms),   so your limited to the 500gb they give you. so it might play mp3s and some movies, but your space is limited if you install a few games.

 

 

Further to include Xbone didnt include their media server like they had in xbox 360, so it seems they also arent supporting the playing of mp3's or downloaded enteratinment of questionable content.

 

Naturally of course these things being computers ( more or less), these features could be patched in and supported at a later time, even external support on the PS4.

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