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  Drevar

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10/30/13 1:25:22 PM#41

As a non-console user I find the whole "your console sucks, mine rules!" argument hilarious considering they both use CPU/GPUs from the same company: AMD.

 

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  MMOManiacs

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10/30/13 1:32:17 PM#42
Originally posted by Tissmogi

It looks like the Microsoft bullshit about "balanced systems" and cloud computing is finally falling apart and we see the real difference with a 3rd Party Title. How can anyone even think about buying a XBOX this generation?

"Perhaps the biggest takeaway is that, in this near-finalised state, the PS4 offers a superior experience on several fronts. The resolution is higher at 1600x900, as compared to the tried and tested 1280x720 on Xbox One, suffering as it does for more visible aliasing artefacts. Visually, the PS4 has a marked advantage with ambient occlusion effects too, which simply isn't matched on Microsoft's platform with the build we played." (Eurogamer)

PS4 version rendering 56% more pixels vs Xbox One,900p vs 720p 
PS4 has anti-aliasing, missing on Xbox One
PS4 has HBAO ambient occlusion, missing on Xbox One
PS4 has motion blur in multiplayer, missing on Xbox One
PS4 runs at a higher framerate in spite of all of the above advantages

The artiocle never says the xbox doesnt have AA, it states there is more alising due to it being a lower resolution.

For sure the PS4 version is suppior, but in that same article, they said that although HBAO wasnt on the xone build they played, HBAO specifically, among other missing things, will be added to the xbox version once it goes live.

Curious why you ommited that info in your OP lol.

  youngkg

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10/30/13 1:39:48 PM#43
Originally posted by asmkm22
Originally posted by youngkg

PS4 has FXAA.

 

Sony always wins on paper but never executes...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XqWRACk2zY

 

 

I think the PS4 looks a lot better on that video.  The XBox looks like they just jacked the contrast up a bit, and you lose a lot of detail.  Both look pretty bad though.

The Xbox 1 looked sharper to me but overall yeah...both pretty underwhelming.

  Amana

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10/30/13 1:44:42 PM#44
I've cleaned up some overly political stuff and personal attacks. Let's stick to the topic at hand, guys.

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  Tissmogi

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OP  10/30/13 1:45:25 PM#45
Originally posted by deniromonk
Originally posted by Tissmogi

It looks like the Microsoft bullshit about "balanced systems" and cloud computing is finally falling apart and we see the real difference with a 3rd Party Title. How can anyone even think about buying a XBOX this generation?

"Perhaps the biggest takeaway is that, in this near-finalised state, the PS4 offers a superior experience on several fronts. The resolution is higher at 1600x900, as compared to the tried and tested 1280x720 on Xbox One, suffering as it does for more visible aliasing artefacts. Visually, the PS4 has a marked advantage with ambient occlusion effects too, which simply isn't matched on Microsoft's platform with the build we played." (Eurogamer)

PS4 version rendering 56% more pixels vs Xbox One,900p vs 720p 
PS4 has anti-aliasing, missing on Xbox One
PS4 has HBAO ambient occlusion, missing on Xbox One
PS4 has motion blur in multiplayer, missing on Xbox One
PS4 runs at a higher framerate in spite of all of the above advantages

The artiocle never says the xbox doesnt have AA, it states there is more alising due to it being a lower resolution.

For sure the PS4 version is suppior, but in that same article, they said that although HBAO wasnt on the xone build they played, HBAO specifically, among other missing things, will be added to the xbox version once it goes live.

Curious why you ommited that info in your OP lol.

Look, i don't care if they have the more "balanced system" and can magically pop a rabbit out of the Kinect in the release version. Fact is that the XBOX can not deliver 60FPS in 720p, you really think they throw in FXAA and HBAO to drop the FPS further you are delusional. It's clear that the hardware with the THREE Operating Systems is massively underpowered.

This test has shown that all the cloud and "balanced system" talk was nothing but marketing bullshit.

  Tissmogi

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Joined: 4/03/11
Posts: 191

 
OP  10/30/13 1:50:00 PM#46
Originally posted by Kaelaan21

Thanks for the info. I knew texture scaling to be this way for PC games, but I wasn't sure for the consoles.

Youa re welcome. These consoles are PC's now and the advantage is that they can use the same technology they use on the PC.

Yes, I have the PSN plus account as well (just for me though). However, Xbox Live started releasing some decent games including block buster titles for free every 2 weeks starting a few months back.

I need to take a look at that, thanks for the info.

I think at this moment, it's going to be a wait and see how the dashboard vs. bar experience will be. One of my major pet peaves with the PS3 is that it can take over a minute to start and I think a lot of that has to do with the way how the game is not always fully installed on the hard drive. Some of the PS3 games forces itself to install. These tend to start up quickly for me.

The good news is that I begin to prefer the PS4 over the Xbox, I don't have to move an entire game collection over. I'm nearly finished with my current collection and have been trading them in for games that can be traded up for only $10 at Gamestop.

I am not decided on either although highly favour the PS4 right now. I don't need the Kinect or TV or Skype and from the tests it seems that all this uneccessary crap has cost them a lot of performance.

Once developers will get more familiar with these consoles the difference will just get bigger.

 

  MMOManiacs

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10/30/13 1:51:44 PM#47
Originally posted by Tissmogi
Originally posted by deniromonk
Originally posted by Tissmogi

It looks like the Microsoft bullshit about "balanced systems" and cloud computing is finally falling apart and we see the real difference with a 3rd Party Title. How can anyone even think about buying a XBOX this generation?

"Perhaps the biggest takeaway is that, in this near-finalised state, the PS4 offers a superior experience on several fronts. The resolution is higher at 1600x900, as compared to the tried and tested 1280x720 on Xbox One, suffering as it does for more visible aliasing artefacts. Visually, the PS4 has a marked advantage with ambient occlusion effects too, which simply isn't matched on Microsoft's platform with the build we played." (Eurogamer)

PS4 version rendering 56% more pixels vs Xbox One,900p vs 720p 
PS4 has anti-aliasing, missing on Xbox One
PS4 has HBAO ambient occlusion, missing on Xbox One
PS4 has motion blur in multiplayer, missing on Xbox One
PS4 runs at a higher framerate in spite of all of the above advantages

The artiocle never says the xbox doesnt have AA, it states there is more alising due to it being a lower resolution.

For sure the PS4 version is suppior, but in that same article, they said that although HBAO wasnt on the xone build they played, HBAO specifically, among other missing things, will be added to the xbox version once it goes live.

Curious why you ommited that info in your OP lol.

Look, i don't care if they have the more "balanced system" and can magically pop a rabbit out of the Kinect in the release version. Fact is that the XBOX can not deliver 60FPS in 720p, you really think they throw in FXAA and HBAO to drop the FPS further you are delusional. It's clear that the hardware with the THREE Operating Systems is massively underpowered.

This test has shown that all the cloud and "balanced system" talk was nothing but marketing bullshit.

Why are you talking about FPS and "balanced systems"? I dont care what microsoft says about their system, its far inferior to the PS4

So lest go back to my actual comment. Your OP says the xbox doesnt have HBAO.....the same article you quoted says that although it wasnt in the build they tested, DICE confirmed they were adding it in the xbox version before launch.

Why did you omit that in your OP?

  cura

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10/30/13 1:53:48 PM#48
Originally posted by Tissmogi

It looks like the Microsoft bullshit about "balanced systems" and cloud computing is finally falling apart and we see the real difference with a 3rd Party Title. How can anyone even think about buying a XBOX this generation?

"Perhaps the biggest takeaway is that, in this near-finalised state, the PS4 offers a superior experience on several fronts. The resolution is higher at 1600x900, as compared to the tried and tested 1280x720 on Xbox One, suffering as it does for more visible aliasing artefacts. Visually, the PS4 has a marked advantage with ambient occlusion effects too, which simply isn't matched on Microsoft's platform with the build we played." (Eurogamer)

PS4 version rendering 56% more pixels vs Xbox One,900p vs 720p 
PS4 has anti-aliasing, missing on Xbox One
PS4 has HBAO ambient occlusion, missing on Xbox One
PS4 has motion blur in multiplayer, missing on Xbox One
PS4 runs at a higher framerate in spite of all of the above advantages

Who cares, both system are crappy. Neither can run it even at 1080p and both do it at medium PC settings so stop portreying PS4 like its any better.

  Tissmogi

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Posts: 191

 
OP  10/30/13 1:57:58 PM#49
Originally posted by deniromonk

Why are you talking about FPS and "balanced systems"? I dont care what microsoft says about their system, its far inferior to the PS4

So lest go back to my actual comment. Your OP says the xbox doesnt have HBAO.....the same article you quoted says that although it wasnt in the build they tested, DICE confirmed they were adding it in the xbox version before launch.

Why did you omit that in your OP?

Because it came in an update after i posted here. Reading comprehensions my friend.

" [Update: DICE's tech mastermind Johan Andersson has been in touch to say that AO will be the same on the final Xbox One version.]" 

  MMOManiacs

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10/30/13 2:00:59 PM#50
Originally posted by Tissmogi
Originally posted by deniromonk

Why are you talking about FPS and "balanced systems"? I dont care what microsoft says about their system, its far inferior to the PS4

So lest go back to my actual comment. Your OP says the xbox doesnt have HBAO.....the same article you quoted says that although it wasnt in the build they tested, DICE confirmed they were adding it in the xbox version before launch.

Why did you omit that in your OP?

Because it came in an update after i posted here. Reading comprehensions my friend.

" [Update: DICE's tech mastermind Johan Andersson has been in touch to say that AO will be the same on the final Xbox One version.]" 

That "update" was added in that article yestersay...

Your post went up today...

[mod edit]

  Tissmogi

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Posts: 191

 
OP  10/30/13 2:10:04 PM#51
Originally posted by deniromonk
Originally posted by Tissmogi
Originally posted by deniromonk

Why are you talking about FPS and "balanced systems"? I dont care what microsoft says about their system, its far inferior to the PS4

So lest go back to my actual comment. Your OP says the xbox doesnt have HBAO.....the same article you quoted says that although it wasnt in the build they tested, DICE confirmed they were adding it in the xbox version before launch.

Why did you omit that in your OP?

Because it came in an update after i posted here. Reading comprehensions my friend.

" [Update: DICE's tech mastermind Johan Andersson has been in touch to say that AO will be the same on the final Xbox One version.]" 

That "update" was added in that article yestersay...

Your post went up today...

[mod edit]

Maybe in your timezone, not in mine. When i posted there was no update, that came much later.

[mod edit]

  Vunak23

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10/30/13 2:11:02 PM#52

Tis good to be a PC gamer. Don't have to worry about the static downgraded hardware that the consoles have. 900p and 720p... lol. Not to mention the terrible controller control scheme for an FPS... mouse and keyboard/Mouse and Joystick will always outperform a controller. 

Play on boys/gals with your aim assist on the consoles. 

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  Tissmogi

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OP  10/30/13 2:14:49 PM#53
Originally posted by Vunak23

Tis good to be a PC gamer. Don't have to worry about the static downgraded hardware that the consoles have. 900p and 720p... lol. Not to mention the terrible controller control scheme for an FPS... mouse and keyboard/Mouse and Joystick will always outperform a controller. 

Play on boys/gals with your aim assist on the consoles. 

Agree 100%, it's sad both are next gen and still ahve not made the step to 1080p, hence my reluctance in buying either of them.

FPS with controllers is something i can never understand. I am probably too stupid to do it. For racing however i prefer a controller even on the PC.

 

  Tissmogi

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OP  10/30/13 2:25:03 PM#54
Originally posted by deniromonk
Originally posted by Tissmogi
Originally posted by deniromonk
Originally posted by Tissmogi
Originally posted by deniromonk

Why are you talking about FPS and "balanced systems"? I dont care what microsoft says about their system, its far inferior to the PS4

So lest go back to my actual comment. Your OP says the xbox doesnt have HBAO.....the same article you quoted says that although it wasnt in the build they tested, DICE confirmed they were adding it in the xbox version before launch.

Why did you omit that in your OP?

Because it came in an update after i posted here. Reading comprehensions my friend.

" [Update: DICE's tech mastermind Johan Andersson has been in touch to say that AO will be the same on the final Xbox One version.]" 

That "update" was added in that article yestersay...

Your post went up today...

I am pretty sure trolling is against the rules on these boards.

Maybe in your timezone, not in mine. When i posted there was no update, that came much later.

PS: calling someone a troll around here is considered trolling, just fyi.

No matter how you want to spin it, the article was updated well before your post went up on this site.

You should prob just leave it alone now, I get what you are trying to do.

I am tired of arguing with you since you obviously know better when i posted and when it was updated. Now please stop spamming this thread. Thank you.

  MMOManiacs

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10/30/13 2:30:26 PM#55
Originally posted by Tissmogi
Originally posted by deniromonk
Originally posted by Tissmogi
Originally posted by deniromonk
Originally posted by Tissmogi
Originally posted by deniromonk

Why are you talking about FPS and "balanced systems"? I dont care what microsoft says about their system, its far inferior to the PS4

So lest go back to my actual comment. Your OP says the xbox doesnt have HBAO.....the same article you quoted says that although it wasnt in the build they tested, DICE confirmed they were adding it in the xbox version before launch.

Why did you omit that in your OP?

Because it came in an update after i posted here. Reading comprehensions my friend.

" [Update: DICE's tech mastermind Johan Andersson has been in touch to say that AO will be the same on the final Xbox One version.]" 

That "update" was added in that article yestersay...

Your post went up today...

I am pretty sure trolling is against the rules on these boards.

Maybe in your timezone, not in mine. When i posted there was no update, that came much later.

PS: calling someone a troll around here is considered trolling, just fyi.

No matter how you want to spin it, the article was updated well before your post went up on this site.

You should prob just leave it alone now, I get what you are trying to do.

I am tired of arguing with you since you obviously know better when i posted and when it was updated. Now please stop spamming this thread. Thank you.

Are you going to update your OP now that the information is proved incorrect?

BTW, if you are actually where your profile says you are, we are both in the same timezone.

  rojoArcueid

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10/30/13 2:34:22 PM#56
Originally posted by muffins89
im buying xbox cause it's an American company. 

if this was enough reason to buy a product (which isnt) then i would buy a PS4 because its a Japanese company and i love Asian (mostly Japanese) culture.

 

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  AG-Vuk

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10/30/13 2:53:00 PM#57

 

Oh yeah forgot they do not have Titanfall on PS4.....lol.

On a more serious note, go with the system you feel most comfortable with and meets your expectations. These tech debates are tedious, boring and pointless. The fact is the majority of people don't care. It's like which is better , Coca-Cola, Pepsi , RC or Shasta Cola. Lol had to go there.

  Siveria

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10/30/13 3:00:55 PM#58
Ps4 will win, the ps3 has a better variety of games than the 360, its a more powerful console, ps4 doesn't force you to keep some thing plugged in with camera's and mic's to spy on you whenever your around like the xbone does so they can target ads at you. Mind you the first year lineup for both systems is pretty shit-tier. its why I am waiting till a year or more to decide if imma get a ps4. See what comes out, hopefully a price drop and hardware revision to fix any glaring bugs. IMO anyone who buys a xbone is about as intelligent as cattle lining up to enter the slaughter house.. (read: they are as stupid as a rock). I am just mad that xbone ports are going to ruin pc gaming just like the x360 has. Well not ruin persay, but hold it way back. the xbone is already a very outdated piece of hardware and its not even out yet. Ps4 is kinda outdated too but not nearly as bad with it being at least 50% more powerful than the xbone.

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A. Proven right (if something bad happens)

or

B. Pleasantly surprised (if something good happens)

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  Tissmogi

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OP  10/30/13 5:53:02 PM#59
Originally posted by AG-Vuk

Oh yeah forgot they do not have Titanfall on PS4.....lol.

On a more serious note, go with the system you feel most comfortable with and meets your expectations. These tech debates are tedious, boring and pointless. The fact is the majority of people don't care. It's like which is better , Coca-Cola, Pepsi , RC or Shasta Cola. Lol had to go there.

Titanfall will eventually be on PS4, it's already announced for PC so not an exclusive title like for example "The Last of Us".

It's not coca-cola vs. Pepsi. People do care when the better product is cheaper. One of the two is clearly more powerful and costs $100 less.

  bestever

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10/30/13 6:00:27 PM#60
Originally posted by Tissmogi
Originally posted by AG-Vuk

Oh yeah forgot they do not have Titanfall on PS4.....lol.

On a more serious note, go with the system you feel most comfortable with and meets your expectations. These tech debates are tedious, boring and pointless. The fact is the majority of people don't care. It's like which is better , Coca-Cola, Pepsi , RC or Shasta Cola. Lol had to go there.

Titanfall will eventually be on PS4, it's already announced for PC so not an exclusive title like for example "The Last of Us".

It's not coca-cola vs. Pepsi. People do care when the better product is cheaper. One of the two is clearly more powerful and costs $100 less.

Yes PC and Xbox one. Hmmm Microsoft yes. Oh watch out The last of us which was a big joke IMO. Was a okay game but the same crap over and over again and the story dropped off so quick it was sad. 

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