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  Tissmogi

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OP  10/30/13 5:08:28 AM#1

It looks like the Microsoft bullshit about "balanced systems" and cloud computing is finally falling apart and we see the real difference with a 3rd Party Title. How can anyone even think about buying a XBOX this generation?

"Perhaps the biggest takeaway is that, in this near-finalised state, the PS4 offers a superior experience on several fronts. The resolution is higher at 1600x900, as compared to the tried and tested 1280x720 on Xbox One, suffering as it does for more visible aliasing artefacts. Visually, the PS4 has a marked advantage with ambient occlusion effects too, which simply isn't matched on Microsoft's platform with the build we played." (Eurogamer)

PS4 version rendering 56% more pixels vs Xbox One,900p vs 720p 
PS4 has anti-aliasing, missing on Xbox One
PS4 has HBAO ambient occlusion, missing on Xbox One
PS4 has motion blur in multiplayer, missing on Xbox One
PS4 runs at a higher framerate in spite of all of the above advantages

  muffins89

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10/30/13 5:12:34 AM#2
im buying xbox cause it's an American company. 

I think the prostitute mod corrupted your game files man. -elhefen

  Seelinnikoi

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10/30/13 5:16:29 AM#3
Originally posted by muffins89
im buying xbox cause it's an American company. 

Hahahaha, oh boy this made my day! LOL!

  Doomedfox

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10/30/13 5:22:53 AM#4
Originally posted by muffins89
im buying xbox cause it's an American company. 

That is a pretty good reason.

I do like to spend a bit extra if i get the chance to get a german quality product so i do understand your thinking.

However i only do get it if it does deliver the same or more than the competition i would never buy an inferior product just cause its from a German company (not saying the XBox is inferior tho).

I think buying an infeior product just cause the company is American or cause the brand is hip (like apple for example) does not help anyone.

If the product is inferior it would help more to not support it so that the company can get back on track and deliver a superb product the next time around.

  Mtibbs1989

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10/30/13 5:30:36 AM#5
Originally posted by muffins89
im buying xbox cause it's an American company. 

Just a little hint of where the Xbox's are currently made, China. You're welcome.


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  muffins89

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10/30/13 5:32:35 AM#6
Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
Originally posted by muffins89
im buying xbox cause it's an American company. 

Just a little idea of where the Xbox's are currently made, China. You're welcome.

Microsoft is an American company.  I did not mention the manufacturer. 

I think the prostitute mod corrupted your game files man. -elhefen

  tawess

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10/30/13 5:34:54 AM#7

Keep in mind that we have yet to see the actual machines yet. Also we have yet to actually see the game run on a normal console yet.

 

So in the end it might turn out that Sony aim to high in a bid to "win" the PR war and the consumers will be stuck with a very pretty but choppy game. We do not know yet.

 

But i say this... With a Xbox One i will at least know what i get, Sony tells to little and keep fibbing on a lot of stuff. Who knows what kind of stupid they are cooking up under the cover of their "free pass" due to Microsoft´s PR armaggedon.

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  Mtibbs1989

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10/30/13 5:35:00 AM#8
Originally posted by muffins89
Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
Originally posted by muffins89
im buying xbox cause it's an American company. 

Just a little idea of where the Xbox's are currently made, China. You're welcome.

Microsoft is an American company.  I did not mention the manufacturer. 

Lol, jokes on you. There's little to nothing about Microsft being American. Sure the founder (Bill Gates) is. But that's the past now.


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  Livnthedream

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10/30/13 5:35:22 AM#9
Op, your own source says 2 things you omitted. The first, these were preview units, not retail. The second, the preview xbox one was not calibrated for their equipment.

http://chroniclesofthenerds.com/nerdfight/

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  Mtibbs1989

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10/30/13 5:38:12 AM#10
Originally posted by Livnthedream
Op, your own source says 2 things you omitted. The first, these were preview units, not retail. The second, the preview xbox one was not calibrated for their equipment.

I could have sworn they played the Xbox previews at E3 on a PC. I might be wrong though. I could have sworn I saw a mess up on their part showing the Microsoft OS desktop while setting up a game preview.


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  tawess

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10/30/13 5:46:16 AM#11

Most Xbone demoes was done on PC machines specced like a Xbox ONE rather the actual xbox machines.

 

 

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  Livnthedream

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10/30/13 5:47:59 AM#12
Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
Originally posted by Livnthedream
Op, your own source says 2 things you omitted. The first, these were preview units, not retail. The second, the preview xbox one was not calibrated for their equipment.

I could have sworn they played the Xbox previews at E3 on a PC. I might be wrong though. I could have sworn I saw a mess up on their part showing the Microsoft OS desktop while setting up a game preview.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-battlefield-4-face-off-qa

^ Update to the article the op linked.

http://chroniclesofthenerds.com/nerdfight/

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  Tissmogi

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OP  10/30/13 10:34:02 AM#13
Originally posted by Livnthedream
Op, your own source says 2 things you omitted. The first, these were preview units, not retail. The second, the preview xbox one was not calibrated for their equipment.

The calibration is about the crushed blacks and the limited RGB range the xbox videos show. This resulted in a picture that some people actually think looks better while in reality it loses detail, it is the same as loudness in audio.

All that does not change the fact that the XBOX One version ran on a significantly lower resolution (720p), no Ambient Occlusion, no Anti Alias and to top it not even ran on 60FPS constantly despite all these restrictions.

If developers optimize their games on these preview systems, and DICE did, then this is what it will look on retail systems it could even be worse.

  DeniZg

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10/30/13 10:44:58 AM#14

Kudos to DICE for not creating lower resolution & graphics version for PS4, in order to mask the inferiority of XB1.

Even though I will buy PS4 and dislike MS for their recent practices, I have to say that the only detail that stood out to me was lack of anti-aliasing on XB1. Everything else is pretty much invisible to the untrained eye while looking at screenshots. In full action, I probably wouldn't even notice the aliasing issue, not to mention lower resolution on XB1. 

  nerovipus32

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10/30/13 10:45:47 AM#15
PC 1080p :)
  drgran

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10/30/13 10:57:06 AM#16
Originally posted by tawess

Keep in mind that we have yet to see the actual machines yet. Also we have yet to actually see the game run on a normal console yet.

 

So in the end it might turn out that Sony aim to high in a bid to "win" the PR war and the consumers will be stuck with a very pretty but choppy game. We do not know yet.

 

But i say this... With a Xbox One i will at least know what i get, Sony tells to little and keep fibbing on a lot of stuff. Who knows what kind of stupid they are cooking up under the cover of their "free pass" due to Microsoft´s PR armaggedon.

This is one of the reasons I'm waiting on until after new years.

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  Tygranir

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10/30/13 11:11:17 AM#17

I love how people still defend the XBox when it is a clearly inferior piece of harware for a higher price tag.

I wonder if they are really excited for the few exclusives that the XBox has or are just truly fanboys.

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  NightBandit

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10/30/13 11:20:05 AM#18
Originally posted by nerovipus32
PC 1080p :)

+1 let the console fight it out for whatever place they want...As hard as they try console will never replace the PC end of.

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  Ikeda

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10/30/13 11:20:15 AM#19

Not to be completely nasty/contrarian but America actually owes MORE of it's overall debt to Japan than it does China.  So if those 2 ever decide to duke it out we could be in for an interesting decision.

And Microsoft hasn't been an "American" corporation in a long time.  If you think that, you're being foolish.

MDibbs, they did.  That picture with the computer and the blue screens of death were prevalent at E3.  I think the hardware they have is CAPABLE but I don't know if they can pull it together with their OS/drivers.

Finally, looks like my decision was right overall.  A company that can make a statement of what MUST be, and then back track it so quickly.  If it could be so easily patched then what about all the comments about not being able to do so?  And yet it changed in the blink of an eye.  I worry that they'll try to change it back later on in one of their patches.

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  laserit

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10/30/13 11:27:23 AM#20
Originally posted by muffins89
im buying xbox cause it's an American company. 

If I may be so bold

 

I believe you should be more concerned about the business practices of a company rather then the nationality of one.

 

IMHO its about time that M$ gets a good slap in the face from consumer's. 

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