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  ElRenmazuo

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OP  10/26/13 9:47:21 PM#1
  GwapoJosh

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10/26/13 10:06:52 PM#2
Wow that guy is a massive d-bag..

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  Hrimnir

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10/26/13 10:08:16 PM#3
Yeah, the guys a moron.  He's another one of those suits who are responsible for things like Call of Duty Modern Warfare 862.  With "NEW MAPS!" Which are really just old maps with a few textures replaced, and stuff like day 1 DLC thats necessary to play the game, etc.

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  TheBigDRC

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10/26/13 10:19:03 PM#4
Self-absorbed prick is best used for this know nothing clown.

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  Livnthedream

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10/26/13 10:41:37 PM#5
Lol. So much butthurt. Whether he is a douchebag or not is immaterial, he is absolutely right. But hey guys, denigrate him and continue to believe that you magically know more.

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  Swedish_Chef

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10/26/13 10:52:20 PM#6
Originally posted by Livnthedream
Lol. So much butthurt. Whether he is a douchebag or not is immaterial, he is absolutely right. But hey guys, denigrate him and continue to believe that you magically know more.

I wouldn't say he's absolutely right, but he makes a few good points. Some PC gamers do tend to act as if the keyboard & mouse is completely without flaws, even though several game genres (action / adventure, platformers, racing, 'arcadey' flight sims) are definitely best played with a controller. Furthermore controllers are becoming more precise with every iteration, and they will someday match the speed and precision of a mouse.

Someone does need to tell him that an Xbox 360 controller works splendidly with a PC, and that hooking up to a TV is as simple as plugging in an HDMI cable. Oh, and that the Steambox will have that streaming capability he's talking about. Hell, an Xbox 360 can receive photos & video from a PC for playback (great for Netflix).

  Deadlyne

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10/26/13 11:02:35 PM#7
I was wondering what he was talking about with the router from PC to TV idea.  Has he really never heard of a HDMI cable before.  How many years have we been able to do this?  About 10, or maybe a little less?

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  monochrome19

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10/26/13 11:15:25 PM#8

There is nothing "insulting" or "ignorant" whatsoever about this video. It's actually quite brilliant.

I could say otherwise about this post though...

  Livnthedream

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10/26/13 11:16:11 PM#9
Originally posted by Swedish_Chef

I wouldn't say he's absolutely right, but he makes a few good points. Some PC gamers do tend to act as if the keyboard & mouse is completely without flaws, even though several game genres (action / adventure, platformers, racing, 'arcadey' flight sims) are definitely best played with a controller. Furthermore controllers are becoming more precise with every iteration, and they will someday match the speed and precision of a mouse.

Someone does need to tell him that an Xbox 360 controller works splendidly with a PC, and that hooking up to a TV is as simple as plugging in an HDMI cable. Oh, and that the Steambox will have that streaming capability he's talking about. Hell, an Xbox 360 can receive photos & video from a PC for playback (great for Netflix).

The controller does not tend to work just plug and play very well though. Mostly because pc games tend to be looked down upon when they come designed with a controller in mind. Look at how harshly Defiance has been treated in that regard. Things like xpadder are available, but they are not accessible. In a great number of ways I agree that pc gaming is holding the industry in general back.

As for the "xbox 360 does that" it really was not what he was talking about. I was watching a futurist panel a week or two ago where they were discussing the future of gaming, and it was said pretty clearly that it will be moving away from the "game box" model that is currently employed because the tech for it is growing all the time. One of the big examples given was a move to a more Netflix style service backed by tv hardware, using things like the Apple Tv that already comes with gigs of onboard storage and ram that currently is not really being used. The chip that Nvidia just released for monitors to stabilize fps I see as another step in that direction.

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  zymurgeist

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10/26/13 11:37:03 PM#10
Because controller games and keyboard/mouse games are fundamentally different. You can play many console games on a PC interface but why would you want to? It's clumsy as hell. You can't play many PC games well with a console because the control interface isn't adaptable enough. Another thing he overlooks is a lot of people still play console games right on top of the TV. The experience is different.

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  jayheld90

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10/26/13 11:48:48 PM#11
he honestly doesnt have a clue what he is even talking about. for being a "game guy", his ignorance is astounding.

  flizzer

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10/26/13 11:58:33 PM#12
I realize I  am a vanishing breed. I only play on PC with a keyboard and mouse.  That doesn't mean I can't see the truth in what he says.  There are enough games on PC so I expect I will be happy for years.  
  jonesing22

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10/26/13 11:59:10 PM#13
LMAO - I don't know who the guy in the video is but he's and idiot. Come on any time any day come play a FPS with me. i'll use keyboard and mouse, who I'm up against can use a controller, we'll see which has superior control.
  tawess

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10/27/13 12:10:07 AM#14

The thing is that for now, consoles will always be limited by the fact that they are static. Sure you can do a little tweak here and there but large by large they will remain the same. The PC otoh can be upgraded, modified and adapted.

 

And while i agree that a controller is good for some games (especially if they were made for a controller to begin with like the Arkham and GTA series of games) the PC again gives you a lot more options, both in what type if device you use and how you have it set up.

 

On the flip side ofc is that the PC is expensive as f-nut to keep up to date and it takes a brave soul to start mucking around with it. A skill set way way waaaaay beyond the average users comfort zone. (trust me.. i used to work tech support) while the console is plug n play  and never worry about a thing.

 

But until the day you aim in a console shooter by moving the entire controller rather then a thumb-stick the PC will always be superior in the control department. Just like how the controller will always be superior for racing games since you do not need to rely on a 1/0 for movement.

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  ElRenmazuo

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OP  10/27/13 12:13:43 AM#15
Originally posted by monochrome19

There is nothing "insulting" or "ignorant" whatsoever about this video. It's actually quite brilliant.

I could say otherwise about this post though...

yea hooking my PC to a TV with a router doesnt sound ignorant at all.  Its his lack of knowledge about the subject and stereo typing the PC gamer is whats insulting. Please look at the video and actually listen to what he says before you comment your self.

  Velocinox

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10/27/13 12:26:15 AM#16

I don't know why he started off on that PC on TV and controller vs KB/Mouse tangent because the real point of his rant was about piracy and the fact that the suits won't make PC games as long as they think a few thousand of their billion dollar empire will get swallowed by pirates.

 

The bottom line truth of his speech?

 

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  Livnthedream

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10/27/13 12:27:38 AM#17
Originally posted by ElRenmazuo

yea hooking my PC to a TV with a router doesnt sound ignorant at all.  Its his lack of knowledge about the subject and stereo typing the PC gamer is whats insulting. Please look at the video and actually listen to what he says before you comment your self.

You were being trolled and you took the bait.

 

@everyone who keeps focusing on controller vs mouse:

THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE MARKET DOES NOT CARE IF THE MOUSE IS MORE ACCURATE.  Clearly if they did then consoles would not be absolutely crushing the pc market. Similarly Tawess argument that pc's are better cause you can upgrade them, the market does not really care. Go take a look at the Steam Survey!

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  Foomerang

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10/27/13 12:32:03 AM#18

The beauty of a console is that it is a dedicated piece of hardware that developers can fine tune and improve their engines around over years. That is why you have 2nd 3rd 4th even 5th generation console games on the same platform that look better and run smoother with each iteration.

PCs on the other hand not only have a nearly infinite number of hardware configurations to deal with, but new devices and drivers are being added and tweaked constantly. Compared to a console, its an optimization nightmare.

True PC gaming is for hardware enthusiasts like many on these forums. And in the end, they are going to get the prettiest graphics with triple monitor setups and all the best bells and whistles. But dont pretend like its some low maintenance easily accessible hobby. It takes a lot of time and money to setup and maintain a proper PC gaming rig. And you're never done tweaking.

Consoles are a cheap, dedicated piece of hardware which benefits gamers two fold: the games not only look better as the console matures but the price point drops as well. That is really hard to beat when compared to the time, money, and upkeep of a proper PC gaming rig.

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  Swedish_Chef

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10/27/13 1:01:38 AM#19
Originally posted by ElRenmazuo
Originally posted by monochrome19

There is nothing "insulting" or "ignorant" whatsoever about this video. It's actually quite brilliant.

I could say otherwise about this post though...

yea hooking my PC to a TV with a router doesnt sound ignorant at all.  Its his lack of knowledge about the subject and stereo typing the PC gamer is whats insulting. Please look at the video and actually listen to what he says before you comment your self.

And yet, all the hateful PC gamers posting in this thread along with yourself are filling that stereotype perfectly. Bravo!

He looked at the video. I looked at the video. He's correct. The fact that you don't like what the guy has to say does not change this in any way, shape, or form. Furthermore I've yet to see a single valid argument as to why he's wrong throughout this whole thread. It's all been ad hominem attacks followed by claims that he doesn't know what he's talking about, without actually saying why.

I find it hilarious that many of the responses here are the exact kind of thing you'd expect from the Xbox LIVE crowd which PC gamers claim to be above. I guess console & PC gamers aren't all that dissimilar after all, huh? Imagine that.

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10/27/13 1:09:49 AM#20
Originally posted by Swedish_Chef
Originally posted by ElRenmazuo
Originally posted by monochrome19

There is nothing "insulting" or "ignorant" whatsoever about this video. It's actually quite brilliant.

I could say otherwise about this post though...

yea hooking my PC to a TV with a router doesnt sound ignorant at all.  Its his lack of knowledge about the subject and stereo typing the PC gamer is whats insulting. Please look at the video and actually listen to what he says before you comment your self.

And yet, all the hateful PC gamers posting in this thread along with yourself are filling that stereotype perfectly. Bravo!

He looked at the video. I looked at the video. He's correct. The fact that you don't like what the guy has to say does not change this in any way, shape, or form. Furthermore I've yet to see a single valid argument as to why he's wrong throughout this whole thread. It's all been ad hominem attacks followed by claims that he doesn't know what he's talking about, without actually saying why.

I find it hilarious that many of the responses here are the exact kind of thing you'd expect from the Xbox LIVE crowd which PC gamers claim to be above. I guess console & PC gamers aren't all that dissimilar after all, huh? Imagine that.

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Originally posted by Foomerang

The beauty of a console is that it is a dedicated piece of hardware that developers can fine tune and improve their engines around over years. That is why you have 2nd 3rd 4th even 5th generation console games on the same platform that look better and run smoother with each iteration.

PCs on the other hand not only have a nearly infinite number of hardware configurations to deal with, but new devices and drivers are being added and tweaked constantly. Compared to a console, its an optimization nightmare.

True PC gaming is for hardware enthusiasts like many on these forums. And in the end, they are going to get the prettiest graphics with triple monitor setups and all the best bells and whistles. But dont pretend like its some low maintenance easily accessible hobby. It takes a lot of time and money to setup and maintain a proper PC gaming rig. And you're never done tweaking.

Consoles are a cheap, dedicated piece of hardware which benefits gamers two fold: the games not only look better as the console matures but the price point drops as well. That is really hard to beat when compared to the time, money, and upkeep of a proper PC gaming rig.

 

And that^

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